# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 144
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2865 "2016-03-25T16:55:53Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Remember being told in 2000 how it didn’t matter that Dubya was ignorant and lazy, because he’d have a bunch of great people around to tell him what to do? Unfortunately, the chief of them was Dick Cheney, and we can only **wish** he had been ignorant and lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2866 "2016-03-25T17:10:44Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yeah, that’s pretty dire. Aren’t there any elderly ex-Nazis he can name as prospective Cabinet secretaries? Why go that route when there are plenty of young, current Nazis who would love to do their part in the Trump administration? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Neo-Nazi Trump supporter calls for execution of Ted Cruz’s ‘sl\*t wife’ over links to ‘Jew banksters’](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/neo-nazi-trump-supporter-calls-for-execution-of-ted-cruzs-slt-wife-over-links-to-jew-banksters/) See? Like that guy. Attorney General material there. From the article: > [@Trump supporting neo-Nazi](#): > > Tedman Cruise Ship recently published sexy photos of Donald Trump’s beautiful Slav wife in an ad for the apparent purpose of indicating Trump is a badman for marrying a model who posed for sexy photos. It’s interesting to me that the Nazis can overlook Trump’s marriage to a “Slav”. I thought the Nazis hated the Slavs. Anyway, Heidi Cruz is apparently a “slut” for working for Jewish bankers. I guess she had sex with all of them. Also she’s somehow committed treason. Not sure what was treasonous about that, but then I’m not Attorney General material. Also, “Tedman Cruise Ship”? Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2867 "2016-03-25T17:47:15Z")
Trump supporter who threatened to blow up a California mosque in December has been [sentenced to 90 days in county jail](http://kron4.com/2016/03/24/richmond-man-charged-with-making-threats-to-muslims-takes-plea-deal/) and three years probation: > [@](#): > > Celli was arrested Dec. 20, several days after police received a report that he yelled “I’m going to kill you all” outside the Islamic Society of West Contra Costa County. > > Detectives served a search warrant at Celli’s home in the 5100 block of McBryde Avenue and a bomb squad had to be called in when a suspicious device was found. > > The area around his home was evacuated because of the possible explosive, police said. It was safely detonated before that evacuation order was lifted. > > … > > “At a time when attacks on mosques and Muslim individuals are at an all-time high, this will send a message that such actions will have consequences,” Billoo said in a statement.Billoo admonished “the wake of hateful rhetoric by multiple presidential candidates” leading up to the incident and pointed to Celli’s support for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. In Facebook posts, Celli wrote that he would follow Trump to “the end of the world.” 90 days in county jail. Yeah, that’ll teach him. If he was a Muslim who threatened to blow up a Christian church, I’m sure he would get the same sentence. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2868 "2016-03-25T18:01:24Z")
[Awesome](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2016/03/11) [toons](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2016/03/18). ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2869 "2016-03-25T20:44:53Z")
Ted Cruz evidently enjoys fucking rats, but not just _any_ rat. “Well, let me be clear. Donald Trump may be a rat but I have no desire to copulate with him.” > **[Cruz: ‘Trump May Be A Rat But I Have No Desire To Copulate With Him’ \[VIDEO\]](https://dailycaller.com/2016/03/25/cruz-trump-may-be-a-rat-but-i-have-no-desire-to-copulate-with-him-video/)** > > Sen. Ted Cruz says, ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2870 "2016-03-25T22:07:19Z")
Even a ratfucker has standards. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2871 "2016-03-25T22:25:58Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Ted Cruz evidently enjoys fucking rats, but not just _any_ rat. > > “Well, let me be clear. Donald Trump may be a rat but I have no desire to copulate with him.” > > [Cruz: ‘Trump May Be A Rat But I Have No Desire To Copulate With Him’ [VIDEO] | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/25/cruz-trump-may-be-a-rat-but-i-have-no-desire-to-copulate-with-him-video/) > [@](#): > > Stone, a former adviser to Trump, has been labeled by some in the media as a “ratfucker” due to using dirty political tricks when he worked in the Nixon administration. [QUOTE=Futurama] Nixon’s back!! [/QUOTE] ! But, really? Why do the most shady Republicans still look at the worst administration for “talent”? (Cheney, Rumsfield, etc. for Dubya) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2872 "2016-03-25T22:59:35Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Ted Cruz evidently enjoys fucking rats, but not just _any_ rat. > > “Well, let me be clear. Donald Trump may be a rat but I have no desire to copulate with him.” > > [Cruz: ‘Trump May Be A Rat But I Have No Desire To Copulate With Him’ [VIDEO] | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/25/cruz-trump-may-be-a-rat-but-i-have-no-desire-to-copulate-with-him-video/) BTW, this appears to be based on some confusion on Cruz’ part about the meaning of the word [“ratfucking”](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ratfucking) in a political sense. > [@](#): > > **“Ratfucking”** was a term used by Richard Nixon’s campaign insiders to describe electoral fraud and dirty tricks they used against their opponents. The term was coined by political operative Don Segretti, who claimed it had come from his college days when he stuffed ballot boxes for student government candidates. Segretti was hired by the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP) to work his ratfucking magic for Nixon in the 1972 elections and funded by laundered money coming in through CREEP slush funds. Segretti and a number of other ratfuckers worked from CREEP to destroy the campaigns of Democratic opponents. Their methods included distributing faked letter and press releases, astroturfing “activists” and “protestors,” disrupting political conferences using the old “order a hundred pizzas in someone else’s name” trick, vote contracting (literally paying people for votes), espionage tactics, and general dickery. One of the ratfuckers happened to be Karl Rove, who was the head of the College Republicans at the time (they teach 'em early). Which Ted Cruz has no excuse not to know. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2873 "2016-03-26T02:39:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yeah, that’s pretty dire. Aren’t there any elderly ex-Nazis he can name as prospective Cabinet secretaries? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Neo-Nazi Trump supporter calls for execution of Ted Cruz’s ‘sl\*t wife’ over links to ‘Jew banksters’](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/neo-nazi-trump-supporter-calls-for-execution-of-ted-cruzs-slt-wife-over-links-to-jew-banksters/) > > It’s barely even started, friends. The old ways work best, doncha know. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2874 "2016-03-26T16:55:05Z")
This apparently got lost in the wife bashing headlines: [Trump puts tactical nuclear weapons on the table in the fight against ISIS.](http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/trump-nuclear-weapons-isis/) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump thinks that tactical nuclear weapons may be worth using in the war against the Islamic State. > > In an interview with Mark Halperin and John Heilemann of Bloomberg, the Republican presidential frontrunner refused to rule out using tactical nuclear weapons in the war against ISIS. > > “I’m never going to rule anything out—I wouldn’t want to say. Even if I wasn’t, I wouldn’t want to tell you that because at a minimum, I want them to think maybe we would use them,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2875 "2016-03-26T17:27:05Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > This apparently got lost in the wife bashing headlines: > > [Trump puts tactical nuclear weapons on the table in the fight against ISIS.](http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/trump-nuclear-weapons-isis/) Trump is really begging for it: Famous "Daisy" Attack Ad from 1964 Presidential Election Vote for the Democrat on November 8th, the stakes are too high for you to stay home. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2876 "2016-03-26T18:06:41Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Trump is really begging for it: > > Famous "Daisy" Attack Ad from 1964 Presidential Election > > Vote for the Democrat on November 8th, the stakes are too high for you to stay home. There’s an extension to that: Get out the vote for November 8. Suggesting it to people here is preaching to the choir. Convince people that their vote REALLY matters in stopping the media monstrosity that is the Donald. Two simple questions should do it: Do you truly trust Trump to act in your interest in the most powerful position on Earth?..and…Is this the way you want the US to be represented to the rest of the world? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2877 "2016-03-26T18:28:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Apparently Donald Trump doesn’t know that his foreign policy advisor is a former Palestinian Christian militia leader, and is not a Muslim at all.](http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/03/donald-trump-walid-phares-fox-news) Phares is most certainly not Palestinian. He’s a Maronite from Lebanon. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2878 "2016-03-26T20:52:26Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Phares is most certainly not Palestinian. He’s a Maronite from Lebanon. He could still be a leader of a Palestinian Christian militia, even if he’s not Palestinian. Yes, it’s not clear how all the adjectives in “Palestinian Christian militia leader” modify each other, it could be (Palestinian-Christian militia) leader or (Palestinian-Christian) (militia leader) or even (Palestinian ((Christian militia) leader). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2879 "2016-03-26T21:10:19Z")
The article doesn’t mention Palestinian anything. And it should be noted the guy was apparently purely political in Lebanon and was actually a Romney campaign advisor as well. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2880 "2016-03-26T21:44:14Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > When asked this question the best thing is to affirmatively speak against a bigot. It’s not good to act aggrieved with the media for asking and making your response as stingy as possible and all about not giving up little surrender points. He is running to be a leader of men, not dogs. Or he could say “Fuck You” I’m OK with that. It is obvious what the intention behind Trump’s answer was. It was a rebellion against the media’s attempt to associate him with reviled figures and groups, through repetition and insinuation, in order to vilify him. Whether or not you consider it good is just one data point. So far Trump’s methods are working well for him. No one knows how much more success they will bring him, but we will know in November. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2881 "2016-03-26T21:49:42Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You know, it’s really not that hard to _not retweet bogus stats from white supremacists_. It’s not too much to ask that Presidential candidates don’t do this, especially not multiple times. It’s also not too much to ask that Presidential candidates _not consider paying for the legal fees of violent criminals_. No, I don’t think that is an unreasonable standard. It’s just that it is one of many standards. Some people on Twitter, like Trump, post all kinds of crap. To most twitterers, posting something just means “look at this thing”, not “I have carefully vetted this and endorse the message, it’s creator, and everyone who has ever retweeted it”. > [@](#): > > These are not difficult things to avoid. That Trump is unable or unwilling to avoid them demonstrates extreme ignorance or extremely poor judgment. Except that his judgment and knowledge seem to be working. > [@](#): > > No idea why you’re trying so hard to defend these kinds of things. There is a huge outpouring of ignorant accusations directed at Trump and his supporters. They don’t help anything. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2882 "2016-03-26T21:51:22Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > It is obvious what the intention behind Trump’s answer was. It was a rebellion against the media’s attempt to associate him with reviled figures and groups, through repetition and insinuation, in order to vilify him. Whether or not you consider it good is just one data point. So far Trump’s methods are working well for him. No one knows how much more success they will bring him, but we will know in November. The big drop in the aggregate polls seen by Trump against Bernie or Hillary in recent weeks is hard to explain unless one takes into account that the majority of Americans are not believing in that “intention”. Besides, his official talking point is that it was a lousy earpiece that caused that snafu (implying that Trump would had come with what \*\*drad dog \*\*expected Trump to respond), it is really sad to continue to make the point about what he intended there. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2883 "2016-03-26T21:57:56Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, **HB,** talk is talk and fun is fun and Devil’s Advocate is a legitimate rhetorical and forensic role one can play without actually siding with the Devil – but for Og’s sake, you don’t actually **want** Trump as POTUS, do you?! Not even in preference to Clinton, I should hope! Why would you say “even in preference to Clinton”? Clinton is the only one running who I _could_ vote for. I don’t buy into the caricature of her that the right wing attack machine has been hammering away at any more than I buy into the BS narrative about Trump. I rank the candidates: Cruz\ **Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2884 "2016-03-26T21:58:14Z") > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Except that his judgment and knowledge seem to be working. Among republicans yes, but not all of them and pointing that it is “working” really does not mean good news or a flattering thing to report as you are implying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=143) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=145)