# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3165 "2016-04-05T17:31:34Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Suppose Trump’s plan is somehow implemented, but Mexico refuses to be extorted. Their economy is damaged by the loss of remittances, and millions of Mexicans are thrown out of work. Won’t that just create more undocumented immigrants crossing the border to escape economic hardship?

The wall just got 10 feet higher.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3166 "2016-04-05T17:32:44Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> [Trump’s latest plan to get Mexico to pay for the wall:](http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/05/politics/donald-trump-mexico-wall-pay/index.html) prevent undocumented workers from wiring money from the USA to Mexico until it does, which he thinks he would be allowed to do under the USA Patriot Act.
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> Hands up, whoever else immediately had the idea of starting a business of being a middleman between undocumented workers and Western Union. Of course, it would result in requiring the middlemen to require their customers show documentation, but that just adds another level to the chain. (Also apparently, the obvious solution - tax money transfers into Mexico and “pay for the wall that way” - probably isn’t something he could do without approval of Congress.)

Two words (three?). U.S. Mail.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3167 "2016-04-05T17:33:46Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m rather stunned by Trump’s open refrain of “It’s not fair! It’s not fair!”. Such petulance one might expect in a spoiled child, but in a grown man running for President? Will he hold his breath until his face turns bluish-orange if things don’t go his way at the G20 meeting? Will he stamp his feet if China don’t agree to the trade terms he wants? Will he cry if Iran says mean things about him?
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> Someone needs to tell him what my mother told me at an early age: Life’s not fair, and you need to learn to deal with that.

Unless she raised someone who flies around the country in a $100,000,000 private jet, or who has managed to become to second most likely person to win the most powerful position on Earth, Trump should probably ignore advise originating from your mother, and stick to the lessons his own parents and experience have taught him.

Those of you who are informed this election cycle primarily by Rachael Maddow and Jon Oliver are just as out of contact with Trump reality as those who get their mental pictures of Clinton from Hannity and Rush are out of touch with reality regarding Hillary.

So many people don’t see what is happening, and keep trying to apply this shtick where they try to make fun of Trump for being uptight. Like a warrior swinging the stump that used to be her sword-arm, a phantom limb that feels just as real and deadly as ever, but all the rest of us see is the impotent wriggling of a nub.

The tables have turned, and it is the left’s turn to have it’s ignorance continuously featured as the [joke-butt](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/carl-the-cuck-and-aids-skrillex). And considering how uptight, self-righteous, and deluded they are, it is as easy and natural as ever to infantilize their sacred cows.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3168 "2016-04-05T17:37:31Z")

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[AIDS Skrillex ft. Safe Space Sally - White Male Privilege](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3169 "2016-04-05T17:40:01Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> Unless she raised someone who flies around the country in a $100,000,000 private jet, or who has managed to become to second most likely person to win the most powerful position on Earth, Trump should probably ignore advise originating from your mother, and stick to the lessons his own parents and experience have taught him.
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> Those of you who are informed this election cycle primarily by Rachael Maddow and Jon Oliver are just as out of contact with Trump reality as those who get their mental pictures of Clinton from Hannity and Rush are out of touch with reality regarding Hillary.
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> So many people don’t see what is happening, and keep trying to apply this shtick where they try to make fun of Trump for being uptight. Like a warrior swinging the stump that used to be her sword-arm, a phantom limb that feels just as real and deadly as ever, but all the rest of us see is the impotent wriggling of a nub.
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> The tables have turned, and it is the left’s turn to have it’s ignorance continuously featured as the[joke-butt](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/carl-the-cuck-and-aids-skrillex). And considering how uptight, self-righteous, and deluded they are, it is as easy and natural as ever to infantilize their sacred cows.

Really, no one needs Maddow or Oliver to see that Trump is ignorant (and dangerously so) of pretty much anything beyond his own business. I haven’t seen any of Maddow’s stuff, but I laugh my ass off at John Oliver (that’s with an ‘h’, unlike Jon Stewart). I couldn’t care less about Trump’s reality, other than that he’d be the most dangerous man in the history of the office.

Who do you think you’re convincing with this bullshit? No one but yourself.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3170 "2016-04-05T17:53:54Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> But Reagan and Dubya were out of their depth also. I don’t know that this really matters as long as you surround yourself with a bunch of people who can basically tell you what to do and run things for you while you goof around and enjoy the perks.

But is Trump likely to pick advisers who are Beltway insiders and know what they’re doing? Or, for that matter, listen to them?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3171 "2016-04-05T17:57:17Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m rather stunned by Trump’s open refrain of “It’s not fair! It’s not fair!”. Such petulance one might expect in a spoiled child, but in a grown man running for President?

Or, for that matter, in a business tycoon?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3172 "2016-04-05T18:00:01Z")

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[TRUMP advisor calls Canadian Cruz “Radical Wall Street Globalist”](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/04/trump_senior_policy_advisor_stephen_miller_ted_cruz_sided_with_goldman_sachs_and_the_globalists_on_trade_tpp.html)

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> "One final thing: I talked a moment ago about tone. Donald Trump is running a campaign about love of country, love of neighbor, love of family. About our love for each other, and our desire to have our children have the best future.  
> The special interests in D.C. who complain and weep their crocodile tears, over Donald Trump’s tone – Because he is tough on illegal immigration, because he is tough on crime, because he is tough on corruption. Have these special interests in D.C., have these political bosses – **did they weep any tears when your factory shut down?  
> Did they weep any tears when Kate Steinle died?  
> Did they weep any tears when your wages didn’t rise in 20 years?**  
> **Because they don’t care about you. All they care about is themselves, and this election is a referendum on 40 years of failed leadership that has betrayed the working people of this country. They have contempt for you. They have contempt for your families.**  
> They tell you your concerns aren’t legitimate, you’re wrong for wanting a secure border, you’re wrong for wanting to keep factories. This is your chance. This is your once-in-a-lifetime chance on Tuesday to take back control of your country? Will you do it?  
> And will you send Ted Cruz packing back to Washington D.C., and tell him you will never be president of the U.S.\*\* Ted Cruz is a radical Wall Street globalist who will destroy Wisconsin\*\*. And Donald Trump will save this country and he will save Wisconsin.

This genuinely and truly is an amazing speech, regardless of anything else and I can only wish Senator Sanders and his surrogates would talk in this sort of vigourous and truthful language more. Regardless of what ends the speeches serve, they aid in the militarization of the American working-class against the plutocratic caste. Indeed, TRUMP is our Red Army having done most of the heavy lifting in utterly eviscerating the Republican Establishment. Now the Red Army draws nigh to the portals of Berlin even as the delusional hacks of the Oligarchy gibber in their bunkers still believing in now-impossible victor.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3173 "2016-04-05T18:06:44Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Or, for that matter, in a business tycoon?

He has used the “it’s not fair” bit of strategic communication to great success in the past:[Trump insisted on including Jews and blacks at Palm Beach golf course in 1990s](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/01/trump-claims-no-one-has-done-so-much-for-equality-as-he-has-citing-his-private-club/)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3174 "2016-04-05T18:13:45Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> He has used the “it’s not fair” bit of strategic communication to great success in the past:[Trump insisted on including Jews and blacks at Palm Beach golf course in 1990s](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/01/trump-claims-no-one-has-done-so-much-for-equality-as-he-has-citing-his-private-club/)

And this relates to trying to use that phrase to prevent someone with the legal and democratic right to stay in the race from continuing how?

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3175 "2016-04-05T18:29:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> And this relates to trying to use that phrase to prevent someone with the legal and democratic right to stay in the race from continuing how?

Both cases involve Trump promoting the idea that a particular resolution (the resolution that he desires and benefits from) is the most fair one, and that the Powers That Be are working against the will of the People and basic common sense and decency by fighting against this outcome.

It’s stuff like this that makes modern geniuses like[Azealia Banks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05RmIgPoSo) support Trump. She knows very well that he is a narcissist who does whatever he does for his own ego. But some of the establishment framework that gets destroyed when it gets in the way of Trumps pig-headedness happens to be the direct descendants of white supremacy and related political and societal structures. Trump is just the strong shot to spread out the pool balls after a bad break, once they are all spread out on the table a little more, talented people like Banks can take care of the rest themselves.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3176 "2016-04-05T18:55:28Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> Both cases involve Trump promoting the idea that a particular resolution (the resolution that he desires and benefits from) is the most fair one, and that the Powers That Be are working against the will of the People and basic common sense and decency by fighting against this outcome.

Except that one is clearly about something just and the other clearly is not, except to the Kool-Aid drinkers.

> [@](#):
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> It’s stuff like this that makes modern geniuses like[Azealia Banks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05RmIgPoSo) support Trump. She knows very well that he is a narcissist who does whatever he does for his own ego. But some of the establishment framework that gets destroyed when it gets in the way of Trumps pig-headedness happens to be the direct descendants of white supremacy and related political and societal structures. Trump is just the strong shot to spread out the pool balls after a bad break, once they are all spread out on the table a little more, talented people like Banks can take care of the rest themselves.

I’d just prefer the balls to stay somewhere in the vicinity of the table, assuming it’s still standing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3177 "2016-04-05T18:58:59Z")

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I really would rather not even _think_ about The Donald’s balls.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3178 "2016-04-05T19:04:43Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> Trump is just the strong shot to spread out the pool balls after a bad break, once they are all spread out on the table a little more, talented people like Banks can take care of the rest themselves.

Yes, I’m sure the country will be just terrific after the revolution, comrade.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3179 "2016-04-05T19:11:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I really would rather not even _think_ about The Donald’s balls.

Please don’t bring images like that to the table! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3180 "2016-04-05T19:12:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Except that one is clearly about something just and the other clearly is not, except to the Kool-Aid drinkers.

It’s not too hard at all to sell the idea that it’s just for the person with the most votes and delegates to be the nominee. In fact, characterizing any other outcome as just is quite challenging.

> [@](#):
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> I’d just prefer the balls to stay somewhere in the vicinity of the table, assuming it’s still standing.

And this pearl clutching that you are participating in is as easily derided and infantilized as the segregationists’ and homophobes’ sky-is-falling pronouncements.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3181 "2016-04-05T20:32:09Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> It’s stuff like this that makes modern geniuses like[Azealia Banks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05RmIgPoSo) support Trump.

As Azelia said, “I only trust this country to be what it is: full of shit. takes shit to know shit so we may as well, put a piece of shit in the White House”

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3182 "2016-04-05T21:17:26Z")

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I thought I recognized that name. She’s the same moron who bought into a fake interview with Sarah Palin that had Palin claiming that blacks wanted to be slaves and responded with:

\*“Sarah Palin needs to have her hair shaved off to a buzz cut, get headfucked by a big, veiny, ashy, black dick then be locked in a cupboard."

“Hideous. At least suk a nigga dick or summ’ before you start talking shit about ‘black people willingly accepting slavery.’ Least she can do… Honestly… Let’s find the biggest burliest negroes and let them run train on her. Film it and put it on Worldstar."\*

What’s truly hideous is that people like this have become celebrities in America.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3183 "2016-04-05T21:29:56Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> And this pearl clutching that you are participating in is as easily derided and infantilized as the segregationists’ and homophobes’ sky-is-falling pronouncements.

Comparing people who have qualms about Trump to ‘segregationists and homophobes’. Nice. You have learned well from your Jedi master, young Padawan.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3184 "2016-04-05T21:55:41Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> As Azelia said, “I only trust this country to be what it is: full of shit. takes shit to know shit so we may as well, put a piece of shit in the White House”

Now that’s a terrific Trump supporter right there. Perfectly sums up what he’s all about.

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