# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 172
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3425 "2016-04-11T00:08:15Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Contrary to your insinuations, “real America” are not in the upper-middle suburbs of the metropolises-they are not Westchester and Fairfax counties. Of course they are. People who live in those counties are just as much “real America” as everyone else. Trump’s supporters are real America, and so are Hillary’s supporters, and so are Bernie’s supporters, and so are Cruz’s supporters. In other words, it’s a meaningless term, and the only thing it really accomplishes is that anyone who nonironically uses it is pretty much exposing himself as a fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3426 "2016-04-11T03:09:29Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > So you don’t think the Donald has a consistent ideology, nevermind having advocated the same basic platform for the last thirty years? What consistent ideology does he have, if he flip flops four times on abortion in the span of a week? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3427 "2016-04-11T04:45:34Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > …Unsurprisingly you dismiss the strong evidence I provide in favour of the fashionable narratives of the “respectable” pundits. Now, you just hold it right there! Not a damn thing “respectable” about **Vinny**! And “fashionable”? That’s _right_ out! ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3428 "2016-04-11T13:54:02Z")
So Trump’s two oldest kids, Eric and Ivanka, won’t be voting for their dad in NY. They forgot to register as Republicans for NY’s closed primary. Oops. > **[Donald Trump's kids Ivanka and Eric never registered to vote for their dad](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-kids-never-registered-to-vote-2016-4)** > > While plenty of New Yorkers say they will cast their votes for Donald Trump in next week's Republican primary, two of Trump's own kids won't be among them. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3429 "2016-04-11T15:51:33Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Does Donald TRUMP have a coherent ideology? No, he has a brand strategy. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3430 "2016-04-11T15:59:21Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Of course they are. People who live in those counties are just as much “real America” as everyone else. Trump’s supporters are real America, and so are Hillary’s supporters, and so are Bernie’s supporters, and so are Cruz’s supporters. > > In other words, it’s a meaningless term, and the only thing it really accomplishes is that anyone who nonironically uses it is pretty much exposing himself as a fraud. Agree. Here’s a thread from 2009 trying to identify where the “real world” is. Same idea. [What is the "real world"? - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=545354) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3431 "2016-04-11T16:12:56Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > No, he has a brand strategy. Remember [Chairman Mao suits](http://www.qingdaonese.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/qingdaoartist_suijianguomaosuit.jpg). Trump should re-issue that basic cut with a plaid fabric, and call them Chairman Trump suits. It would take the world by storm! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3432 "2016-04-11T17:01:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > LOL who needs doublespeak? We have Trumpspeak! The difference being, doublespeak combines two contradictory propositions, **each of which on its own makes some kind of semantic sense.** ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3433 "2016-04-11T18:48:48Z")
An investigation into Trump’s alleged charitable donations. > **[Trump the donor: free rounds of golf, but no personal cash](https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article71092382.html)** > > Trump’s campaign compiled a list of his contributions – 4,844 of them, filling 93 pages ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3434 "2016-04-11T19:09:37Z")
Basically, we all have to start writing like **Qin** or else admit our status as detestable bourgeoisie philistines. Pick your side quickly! But I do agree that Trump has a very large _Weltanschauung_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3435 "2016-04-11T19:13:59Z")
You gotta love Trump’s 8-year-old’s logic with the delegate thing. We didn’t know the rules and weren’t prepared, so the system must be rigged. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3436 "2016-04-11T19:17:45Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Of course they are. People who live in those counties are just as much “real America” as everyone else. Trump’s supporters are real America, and so are Hillary’s supporters, and so are Bernie’s supporters, and so are Cruz’s supporters. > > In other words, it’s a meaningless term, and the only thing it really accomplishes is that anyone who nonironically uses it is pretty much exposing himself as a fraud. Let’s ask Hulk Hogan, shall we? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3437 "2016-04-11T19:18:43Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Let’s ask Hulk Hogan, shall we? “Anytime, Brother!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3438 "2016-04-11T19:42:18Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > You know more about how the world has worked during the time that you have presided over, which has been a period of cultural stagnation and strategic atrophy. Nothing of the kind. Economic stagnation, yes, but culture is flourishing and so is the military-industrial complex. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3439 "2016-04-11T19:45:04Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Having a consistent ideology=/=never being incoherent No, it’s not; but such consistent incoherence as Trump’s is a fairly sure sign of a mind containing no consistent ideology. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3440 "2016-04-11T19:47:58Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Basically, we all have to start writing like **Qin** or else admit our status as detestable bourgeoisie philistines. Pick your side quickly! > > But I do agree that Trump has a very large _Weltanschauung_. He’s going to be very popular . . . ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3441 "2016-04-11T19:48:46Z")
Trump is consistently incoherent. It’s a strategy so he can deny any thing at any time. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3442 "2016-04-11T20:01:03Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Basically, we all have to start writing like **Qin** or else admit our status as detestable bourgeoisie philistines. Pick your side quickly! You forgot the third category: cuckolds. Why does everyone always forget the cuckolds? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3443 "2016-04-11T20:16:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > You gotta love Trump’s 8-year-old’s logic with the delegate thing. We didn’t know the rules and weren’t prepared, so the system must be rigged. “I’ve been doing deals for a long time. I’ve been making lots of wonderful deals, great deals, that’s what I do … there’s always negotiation, and the best negotiator that knows what he’s doing will make a great deal … just so you understand, just, again, this is a _legal_ process. This is a _procedure_. It’s part of the law, I take advantage of that. There’s nothing wrong with it. We have no choice … They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse me. Believe me … and, and, and, I’m a leader; I’ve always been a leader; I’ve never had any problem leading people. If I say ‘do it,’ they’re going to do it. That’s what leadership is all about … I would get the best people, people I would be comfortable with. And we will do the right thing.” You’d think he and his could handle this, right? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3444 "2016-04-11T21:07:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > You gotta love Trump’s 8-year-old’s logic with the delegate thing. We didn’t know the rules and weren’t prepared, so the system must be rigged. I agree Trump’s an excuse-making whiner. But you have to admit that a game where \*after \*the game is played and before the winner is announced, the referees get together to alter the rules at will and decide which scoring plays counted and which didn’t is … well … a game prone to shenanigans. Boxing is famously the one sport where neither the players, the coaches, the audience, the referee, nor the judges as a group know the score until after it’s over. Oddly it’s the professional sport most noted for “questionable” scoring. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=171) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=173)