# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 177
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3525 "2016-04-12T20:19:03Z")
Stupid teenagers? Fair cop. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3526 "2016-04-12T20:40:26Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Bill O’Reilly may be the only person [more racist than Donald Trump](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/11/bill_o_reilly_is_really_racist.html): You have a tattoo on your forehead too, Bill-O. It’s so faint as to be invisible, yet we can all read it plain and clear. It says “IDIOT.” ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3527 "2016-04-12T20:57:46Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Trump \*\*appeals \*\*to racists, and that in itself is broadly offensive. This is just stupid. Dennis Kucinich appeals to antisemites, because he shares their position on Israel/Palestine. That does not mean that he is antisemitic, or that his popularity is being largely driven by antisemitism. Racists have all kinds of different views. Many would prefer white nationalism over American nationalism, but they prefer American nationalism and multi-racial nativism over open borders and increased immigration. The interests of black Americans are mostly the same as those of other Americans, even the racist ones. Everyone benefits from security and a strong economy which provides good jobs. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3528 "2016-04-12T21:07:09Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > It’s the height of idiocy to use these little quibbles to brand Trump a racist while on the other side of the isle we have a candidate who panders to anti-GMO lunacy, which has caused the deaths of millions of African and Indian children. Back in October: > **[Donald Trump Disses Iowa Voters With GMO Truther Retweet](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-anti-gmo-retweet)** > > Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump dissed early voters in Iowa in a retweet on Thursday, the same day a new poll found contender Ben Carson leading the real estate mogul in the first-in… > [@](#): > > In response to a new Quinnipiac poll that found retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson leading Trump among Iowa Republicans, the ex-reality TV star quote-retweeted to his 4.6 million Twitter followers: > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > "@mygreenhippo #BenCarson is now leading in the #polls in #Iowa. Too much #Monsanto in the #corn creates issues in the brain? #Trump #GOP" > > > > — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2015 > > > > ``` Trump backtracked of that, but of what really? Pathetically, he only reported that an intern did apologize, but many in the industry noted that Trump never did say of what he did apologize, meaning that he is still not clear about GMOs; the result? There is a lot of those yahoo anti-GMO sites hailing Trump. And the industry and the ones that look at the science are not swallowing the weak talk back. [http://www.agri-pulse.com/Trump-tweets-GMOs-10222015.asp](http://www.agri-pulse.com/Trump-tweets-GMOs-10222015.asp) > [@](#): > > Some Iowans responded quickly to the original post. Tim Albrecht, a former aide to GOP Gov. Terry Branstad, mockingly tweeted, “Norman Borlaug? Total loser. He couldn’t even save more than a billion people! A Trump GMO would, I’ll tell you that.” > > Meanwhile, Andy Schaul, who is employed at Monsanto as a global threats analyst, shot back at Trump: “Monsanto or #GMO corn doesn’t create brain issues & remember when Donald Trump & Ben Carson were a little #antivax?” > > A strategist for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush fired back at Trump after the apology was posted: “Nice try, Donald, but weak. Apology not accepted by Iowans.” As it was noted before, Bernie is only on favor of labels but he is already on record of not opposing the use of GMOs, until Trump clarifies of what he was apologizing for, Trump is \*\*still \*\*telling others to fear the Technology. And again, until Trump refutes Joe Arpaio you are not convincing anyone that you are looking at the evidence in the proper way, Trump is a racist or it is a willful enabler; just as you are clearly not aware of what the candidates did say about GMOs you are not really convincing about Trump not being an enabler at least. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3529 "2016-04-12T21:18:15Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > These are the kind of people Trump appeals to: > [Wisconsin girls soccer team targeted by Trump wall chants walks off](http://www.cbssports.com/soccer/eye-on-soccer/25551700/wisconsin-girls-soccer-team-walks-off-after-being-targeted-by-trump-wall-chants) That man child of a coach should be fired for cultivating hypersensitivity in his athletes. He isn’t doing them any favors. High school athletics should be teaching those girls the exact opposite lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3530 "2016-04-12T21:33:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Back in October: > > [Donald Trump Disses Iowa Voters With GMO Truther Retweet - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-anti-gmo-retweet) > Trump backtracked of that, but of what really? Pathetically, he only reported that an intern did apologize, but many in the industry noted that Trump never did say of what he did apologize, meaning that he is still not clear about GMOs; the result? There is a lot of those yahoo anti-GMO sites hailing Trump. And the industry and the ones that look at the science are not swallowing the weak talk back. > > [http://www.agri-pulse.com/Trump-tweets-GMOs-10222015.asp](http://www.agri-pulse.com/Trump-tweets-GMOs-10222015.asp) > As it was noted before, Bernie is only on favor of labels but he is already on record of not opposing the use of GMOs, until Trump clarifies of what he was apologizing for, Trump is \*\*still \*\*telling others to fear the Technology. I didn’t know Trump had spouted off about GMOs. Interesting, but not suprising. Thanks for sharing. Trump is certainly not a pro-science candidate by any stretch. He is on the wrong side of global warming, and the right side of nuclear energy. Bernie is the opposite. They have both pandered to the anti-GMO movement. Bernie has made a major effort to take actions to pander to it. Trump apparently sent a tweet. Even Clinton has pandered to anti-GMO sentiment. And most everyone not mentioned is some kind of bible thumping creationist. This election, someone who values evidence based decision making has a choice between not so great, bad, horrible, and even worse. > [@](#): > > And again, until Trump refutes Joe Arpaio you are not convincing anyone that you are looking at the evidence in the proper way, Trump is a racist or it is a willful enabler; just as you are clearly not aware of what the candidates did say about GMOs you are not really convincing about Trump not being an enabler at least. Arpaio is symbolic of anti-illegal immigrant sentiment, which Trump is certainly not going to repudiate. He will stop featuring him if he manages to win the primary, though. He is there to gain the support of the wide swath of voters who’s desire for stronger border enforcement has been pandered to way more than it has been acted on. We won’t know if Trump is just a more effective panderer, or if he really intends or will be able to manifest the desires of those constituents, unless he manages to get elected. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3531 "2016-04-12T21:46:38Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Arpaio is symbolic of anti-illegal immigrant sentiment, which Trump is certainly not going to repudiate. He’s symbolic of a little more than that…racial profiling (hello?), federal investigations… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3532 "2016-04-12T21:49:45Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > I didn’t know Trump had spouted off about GMOs. Interesting, but not suprising. Thanks for sharing. Like the people at Monsanto I will not accept those thanks until one notices that you are learning. I already quoted Bernie before clarifying about his GMO stance, you posted as if you were not aware of what was posted before. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Arpaio is symbolic of anti-illegal immigrant sentiment, which Trump is certainly not going to repudiate. > > He will stop featuring him if he manages to win the primary, though. He is there to gain the support of the wide swath of voters who’s desire for stronger border enforcement has been pandered to way more than it has been acted on. We won’t know if Trump is just a more effective panderer, or if he really intends or will be able to manifest the desires of those constituents, unless he manages to get elected. And that why as Hispanic I will take that as wishful thinking from you. Just about what many Republicans do to justify the support of racists or to tolerate their power within the party. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3533 "2016-04-12T21:52:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > He’s symbolic of a little more than that…racial profiling (hello?), federal investigations… Those are things that he did or is accused of doing\* in his effort to enforce immigration law.\* ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3534 "2016-04-12T21:56:06Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Those are things that he did or is accused of doing\* in his effort to enforce immigration law.\* He has no authority to enforce immigration law. That’s strictly federal. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3535 "2016-04-12T21:56:38Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Those are things that he did or is accused of doing\* in his effort to enforce immigration law.\* And that changes the symbolism how? You know, perceptions and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3536 "2016-04-12T22:00:39Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Like the people at Monsanto I will not accept those thanks until one notices that you are learning. I already quoted Bernie before clarifying about his GMO stance, you posted as if you were not aware of what was posted before. I am aware of his position and his statements. He has heavily pandered to an ignorance laden movement with his advocacy and implementation of GMO labeling, as well as his alternative medicine quackery. The anti-GMO movement is responsible for the deaths and disabilities of millions of African and Indian children from starvation and malnutrition. And here you are more concerned that Arpaio’s deputies pulled over a brown American dude to find out if he was legal. It’s these kinds of whacked priorities that cause more and more of us to want no association at all with most lefties any more. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3537 "2016-04-12T22:04:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He has no authority to enforce immigration law. That’s strictly federal. Sure, technically it is in his effort to see that immigration law is enforced. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3538 "2016-04-12T22:06:12Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > That man child of a coach should be fired for cultivating hypersensitivity in his athletes. He isn’t doing them any favors. High school athletics should be teaching those girls the exact opposite lesson. > [@](#): > > Reportedly there were kids on the side of the field yelling “Donald Trump, build that wall,” toward Hispanic and African American players. Perhaps what the girls should be taught is that they don’t have to take that shit without giving the chanters a bloody bone-breaking beatdown, but as we can’t expect any school administration to get behind that, administrative punishment is the best workable compromise. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3539 "2016-04-12T22:08:07Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Sure, technically it is in his effort to see that immigration law is enforced. He has no authority. How hard is that to understand? He is limited to enforcing Arizona law. Remember the whole states rights thing? This is not one of those state rights. Immigration is strictly a federal matter. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3540 "2016-04-12T22:15:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > And that changes the symbolism how? You know, perceptions and all that. It means that Trump is using him to pander to anti-illegal immigrant sentiment. That’s Arpaio’s position, it’s what he talks about, what he represents. If Trump wanted to pander to racist sentiment he would feature David Duke instead. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3541 "2016-04-12T22:16:58Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > The anti-GMO movement is responsible for the deaths and disabilities of millions of African and Indian children from starvation and malnutrition. Cite? I ask because I’ve heard something similar said about Rachel Carson’s _Silent Spring_ and DDT, and [it’s bullshit](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/DDT). ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3542 "2016-04-12T22:27:04Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > It’s these kinds of whacked priorities that cause more and more of us to want no association at all with most lefties any more. Of course another cause is the[violent, reactionary, authoritarian streak](https://youtu.be/xRlRAyulN4o?t=380): > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Perhaps what the girls should be taught is that they don’t have to take that shit without giving the chanters a bloody bone-breaking beatdown ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3543 "2016-04-12T22:28:10Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Cite? > > I ask because I’ve heard something similar said about Rachel Carson’s _Silent Spring_ and DDT, and [it’s bullshit](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/DDT). > **[Golden Rice Opponents Should Be Held Accountable for Health Problems Linked...](https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/guest-blog/golden-rice-opponents-should-be-held-accountable-for-health-problems-linked-to-vitamain-a-deficiency/)** > > By 2002, Golden Rice was technically ready to go. Animal testing had found no health risks. Syngenta, which had figured out how to insert the Vitamin A-producing gene from carrots into rice, had handed all financial interests over to a non-profit... ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3544 "2016-04-12T22:28:58Z")
If the responsible people won’t do their jobs, that leaves the irresponsible people to do it. Simple logic. Stop lying to the public about your immigration priorities, stop passing laws that say one thing is required and then doing the opposite, and then the Joe Arpaio’s of the world will have no power. Until then, he’ll keep getting reelected, might even be VP in a scary world we shouldn’t have to think about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=176) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=178)