# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 184
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3665 "2016-04-14T19:42:56Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > That doesn’t address my point at all. That just shows that _some_ effort is put into enforcing immigration law. That doesn’t mean that the level of effort is anywhere near the degree of lip service that is given to the issue by pandering politicians, or that it is any where near the level of enforcement that people concerned with illegal immigrants want. There are still over 10 million illegal immigrants present. We spend far more on aid to Africa. [Most Americans think that reducing foreign aid would be a good way to reduce the debt.](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/01/25/rel2d.pdf) And many would rather have the money spent here at home reducing the number of illegal immigrants in the country. “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” - H. L. Mencken [https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/10/16/cut-all-foreign-aid-that-would-be-dumb-and-dangerous/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/10/16/cut-all-foreign-aid-that-would-be-dumb-and-dangerous/) > [@](#): > > None of this argues against reform of aid programs. To the contrary, conservatives have been forceful proponents of rethinking aid to United Nations groups, such as the World Health Organization and the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, which act in ways contrary to our national interests, and of using aid as an instrument of American power. (Mitt Romney, now regarded as a sage on foreign policy, strongly advocated for foreign aid, properly monitored, on this basis.) Moreover, the ability to freeze and reduce aid can be a powerful incentive for countries to change behavior, but so can the promise of increased aid in exchange for cooperation and reform. Eliminating foreign aid in the short or long term would have horrendous humanitarian and national security consequences. It seems to represent a pre-9/11 mindset that we can wall ourselves off from international dangers. Terrorism and epidemics such as Ebola should tell us differently. > > Paul bristles at the term “isolationist,” preferring a less discredited term such as “non-interventionist.” But foreign aid has nothing to do with military intervention — and actually can be used to quell brushfires before they require U.S. action. But cutting off aid to other countries as a goal is the personification of isolationism and reflects a determination to recede from the world and thereby lessen our international influence. It is a message to the rest of the world — and especially to the poor, sick and persecuted — that the United States cares nothing for them. You have to wonder why Paul advocates it so incessantly. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3666 "2016-04-14T19:49:38Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > No, it doesn’t show that at all. Otherwise we wouldn’t be spending money to help Tunisia build a border wall. 1. Just because the U.S. government is spending money on something does not mean it is a good idea. 2. Tunisia’s border with Libya is shorter and more easily patrolled than Mexico’s with the U.S. 3. The situation is completely different – the purpose of the wall is to keep out Islamist militants, not immigrants. Mexicans are much, much more numerous than jihadists, and many of them want to come to the U.S. to make money, which is an even more powerful motivator than a religious-political agenda one is willing to die for. If a wall is built, they **will** find ways over, under, or around it, and the number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. will hold steady at 10 million or so. Only one thing could get any significant numbers of them to leave: A Great Depression. If Trump becomes POTUS, immigrants will leave – for **that** reason alone. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3667 "2016-04-14T19:49:41Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > For one, the media isn’t hell bent on assassinating Hillary’s character like they are Trump’s. But the biggest reason is that Trump knows enough to keep his powder dry, and to wait until he can see the whites of her eyes. Most people have not heard about most of this stuff. If Trump gets the nomination he will bring it up and the media will have no choice but to explore it. And once it gets rolling, whoever covers it in the most salacious manner will get the best ratings, of course. Actually many were already told about that, your report comes from 2 years ago. CBS, ABC and FOX already noted that back then. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3668 "2016-04-14T19:57:24Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > We don’t “bring” them here and, despite what Trump says, Mexico does not “send” them here. We do bring them here in the sense that our economic system provides irresistible incentives, and efforts to reduce the incentive or increase the disincentive are resisted by establishment politicians doing the bidding of the business interests they represent. > [@](#): > > They come here of their own volition so they can earn more money than they can in Mexico. Many come with the intention of working only a short time and returning. Some grow disillusioned when they learn that while they are earning dollars instead of pesos, they are also spending dollars instead of pesos and costs of living are much higher in the U.S. There is so much more to it than these. These are not “workers”, these are people who have the same sorts of needs and desires for a fulfilling life, companionship, and sex that everyone else has. > [@](#): > > Some are indeed “exploited” – by employers who underpay them, knowing an undocumented immigrant does not dare complain to the law. And many are exploited by the coyotes to whom they went in debt to be helped across the border. The ones you can hire in the Home Depot parking lot are probably not exploited and do not feel exploited. In any case, if they feel exploited they can always go home, nobody’s stopping them. More Mexicans have left the U.S. than entered in the past several years. The entire situation is exploitative. Just because they don’t generally choose to go back to a worse situation doesn’t mean it’s not. Your view of the situation is very simplistic. There is no blight line boundary in Mexico or the border area between cartel and law enforcement, or between human smuggler and helpful, appreciated paid border consultant. What do you imagine that those guys standing outside of Home Depot do when they get off work 4.5 hours after you do, after having arrived two hours earlier? > [@](#): > > The presence of large numbers of undocumented Mexican immigrants in the U.S. might depress wages in certain not very important (as far as jobs go) areas of the economy. Every job is important to the people who have it, and the jobs you are talking about used to be a reliable source of income for the most economically vulnerable people in our country, as well as for people new to the job market who need that first job to get them into the habit of being productive citizens. > [@](#): > > Otherwise, it really does not constitute a problem. That immigrants are more likely than natives to commit crimes, carry diseases, depend on public assistance, that they pay no taxes, all these are myths easily debunked. They are certainly far more likely to commit the crime of illegally crossing the border. I am interested to know your source for the claim that it’s easy to prove that they don’t carry more disease than the average American. > [@](#): > > And American hostility to Mexican immigrants is beyond a doubt rooted in racism to some degree; things would be very different if the immigration pressure were coming from an impoverished Third-World Canada. So what? Immigrant activism is rooted in anti-white racism to some degree. That doesn’t nullify or diminish the importance of the issues raised. > [@](#): > > The last thing we need to be spending money on is a wall along the border. A whole lot of people disagree with you, and they have been without political representation on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3669 "2016-04-14T19:58:56Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Actually many were already told about that, your report comes from 2 years ago. CBS, ABC and FOX already noted that back then. “Noted” is completely different than what is going to happen if Trump gets the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3670 "2016-04-14T20:04:59Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 1. Just because the U.S. government is spending money on something does not mean it is a good idea. > > 2. Tunisia’s border with Libya is shorter and more easily patrolled than Mexico’s with the U.S. But we are far richer and have far more technology at our fingertips to assist us. > [@](#): > > 1. The situation is completely different – the purpose of the wall is to keep out Islamist militants, not immigrants. Mexicans are much, much more numerous than jihadists, and many of them want to come to the U.S. to make money, which is an even more powerful motivator than a religious-political agenda one is willing to die for. If a wall is built, they **will** find ways over, under, or around it, and the number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. will hold steady at 10 million or so. You are right that the situations are vastly different. Still, it’s really naive to think that the numbers of illegal immigrants present can not be reduced. If the people who hire them are cracked down on then they will have a much harder time trying to find work, and will be far less likely to stay here or to come back when they are deported. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3671 "2016-04-14T20:08:05Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > [He’s talking about the statue.](http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/04/14/trump-calls-for-reinstatement-of-joe-paterno-statue/) Duh. Not that it would be any kind of negative mark if he wasn’t aware that Paterno had died. He’s defending Paterno. That in itself is bad. But it’s also politically bad. It might make sense politically (though amorally) if he did it in State College. Paterno still has supporters there. But he said it in Pittsburgh, not State College. Wrong school. The U of P Panthers are rivals of Penn State’s Nittany Lions. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3672 "2016-04-14T20:18:03Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > “Noted” is completely different than what is going to happen if Trump gets the nomination. Meh, she will say “old news” that she already replied to, (yes I did check that) and the media is very annoying on that (there are many new items coming from the climate change front but a lot of the editors are of the “we covered that already” school so not much is mentioned now) but the media will have to acknowledge that they already did cover it too, and Trump just shows how late he is getting things. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3673 "2016-04-14T20:57:31Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > A whole lot of people disagree with you, and they have been without political representation on the issue. [A minority of voters](http://www.people-press.org/2016/03/31/2-views-on-immigration-diversity-social-issues/) does not a “whole lot” make. And in what way have they been without representation? Have they not been voting? Just because their views are not popular enough to elect the candidates that share them does not mean they are without representation. Elections have consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3674 "2016-04-14T22:13:58Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [A minority of voters](http://www.people-press.org/2016/03/31/2-views-on-immigration-diversity-social-issues/) does not a “whole lot” make. Look at the way the question is phrased: “% of voters who say undocumented immigrants in the US, who meet certain requirements, should not be allowed to stay legally”=25%. That’s 80 million Americans. That’s definitely a whole lot. And it doesn’t include all of the people like me who want more done than is done now, but do not outright oppose allowing every last illegal immigrant to stay legally. > [@](#): > > And in what way have they been without representation? Have they not been voting? Just because their views are not popular enough to elect the candidates that share them does not mean they are without representation. Elections have consequences. They have been voting over and over again for people who pay lip service to the issue and then, when they get elected, just keep doing the bidding of their donors and cronies. Their cronies benefit from the labor glut because of business interests or because they are those of upper middle or higher class, who are more likely to employ illegal immigrants who scrub their toilets, weed their gardens, care for their children, and replace the Spanish clay tiles on their 3/4 million dollar houses in the gated communities they live in. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3675 "2016-04-14T22:39:28Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Look at the way the question is phrased: “% of voters who say undocumented immigrants in the US, who meet certain requirements, should not be allowed to stay legally”=25%. > > That’s 80 million Americans. That’s definitely a whole lot. And it doesn’t include all of the people like me who want more done than is done now, but do not outright oppose allowing every last illegal immigrant to stay legally. So you favor 25% of the people dictating policy to the other 75%? Not getting your way is not the same as not getting a voice. This is America, if you can’t get more than 25% of the public behind something, then what makes you think that it should go forward? Seems to me you should focus more on convincing the public than voting for the lip-service payers as you describe them. If you can get the majority of the public to back the idea then the politicians will follow suit. Otherwise you’re essentially advocating a coup by the minority or something? Again, just because a minority of the public wants something does not mean they are entitled to have it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3676 "2016-04-14T22:55:50Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > There is so much more to it than these. These are not “workers”, these are people who have the same sorts of needs and desires for a fulfilling life, companionship, and sex that everyone else has. Of course, but they can get those things in Mexico, and not have to watch over their shoulders for _La Migra._ What they come here for is money. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > The entire situation is exploitative. Just because they don’t generally choose to go back to a worse situation doesn’t mean it’s not. Your view of the situation is very simplistic. There is no blight line boundary in Mexico or the border area between cartel and law enforcement, or between human smuggler and helpful, appreciated paid border consultant. So? That is no American’s fault. Except to the extent that the American governments anti-drug policies and the American peoples bottomless drug-appetite is what allows the cartels to exist. In any case, obviously the Mexican immigrants do not **want** American government to relieve their “exploitation” by deporting them. Other things government perhaps could do to relieve their exploitation – e.g., cracking down on exploitative employers in such a way that the immigrants themselves are in no danger of being caught up in the net – would be politically impossible for several obvious reasons. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > What do you imagine that those guys standing outside of Home Depot do when they get off work 4.5 hours after you do, after having arrived two hours earlier? Go home, eat, maybe watch some TV, and go to bed. What would you do? > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > I am interested to know your source for the claim that it’s easy to prove that they don’t carry more disease than the average American. [Here](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Immigration_myths_and_facts#Illegal_immigrants_are_the_source_of_many_communicable_diseases), [here](http://web.archive.org/web/20100428090514/http://colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200805210001), [here](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/jul/23/are-illegal-immigrants-bringing-tremendous-diseas/), [here](http://www.ibtimes.com/do-mexican-immigrants-bring-disease-us-donald-trump-says-theres-health-scare-1997922), [here](http://sma.org/illegal-immigration-and-the-threat-of-infectious-disease/). In fact, the only contrary cites I can find are from nonsources like the _Washington Times._ > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > So what? Immigrant activism is rooted in anti-white racism to some degree. I doubt that very much. No doubt some Mexicans do have some anti-white feeling (mainly directed against Mexico’s own ruling class), but that cannot possibly be their reason for wanting to stay in a country full of white people. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > That doesn’t nullify or diminish the importance of the issues raised. But the racism in anti-immigrant feeling **is** compelling grounds to evaluate the importance of the issues very skeptically. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > A whole lot of people disagree with you, and they have been without political representation on the issue. I dunno about that. They have Arpaio and he ain’t unique, and they have Trump as the GOP frontrunner, and probably some sympathizers in Congress whose names are better known to you than me. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3677 "2016-04-14T22:56:55Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > If the people who hire them are cracked down on then they will have a much harder time trying to find work, and will be far less likely to stay here or to come back when they are deported. Even President Trump and a sympathetic majority in Congress would find that politically impossible. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3678 "2016-04-14T23:05:33Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > They have been voting over and over again for people who pay lip service to the issue and then, when they get elected, just keep doing the bidding of their donors and cronies. Immigration is the **least** of the problems donor-domination of pols causes. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3679 "2016-04-14T23:06:09Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > So you favor 25% of the people dictating policy to the other 75%? Not getting your way is not the same as not getting a voice. This is America, if you can’t get more than 25% of the public behind something, then what makes you think that it should go forward? Seems to me you should focus more on convincing the public than voting for the lip-service payers as you describe them. If you can get the majority of the public to back the idea then the politicians will follow suit. Otherwise you’re essentially advocating a coup by the minority or something? Again, just because a minority of the public wants something does not mean they are entitled to have it. The 25% is only those who want every last illegal immigrant gone no matter the circumstances. There is a lot of room between there and where we are now. The [latest Pew data](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/24/what-americans-want-to-do-about-illegal-immigration/)shows that Americans are evenly split on a wall across the entire US border, for example. In May the split was 41%/51% on the question of whether immigrants strengthen or are a burden on our country. But that is immigration generally, not just illegal immigration. Bloomberg reports that [Sixty-one percent of Americans agree that “continued immigration into the country jeopardizes the United States,”](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-07/americans-really-don-t-like-immigration-new-survey-finds) ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3680 "2016-04-14T23:09:16Z")
Future first Jewish president of the United States Ivanka Trump [Just Shut Down Critics Who Say Her Father Mistreats Women](http://fortune.com/2016/04/13/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-women/) > [@](#): > > “I’ve witnessed these incredible female role models that he’s employed in the highest executive positions at the Trump Organization my entire life, in an industry that has been dominated by men, is still dominated by men, but certainly was when he was starting out in his career and employing some of these women and raising them through the ranks.” she said, according to a report in The New York Times. > > As an example of Trump’s empowerment of women, she said that her dad told her and her younger half-sister Tiffany that no pursuit was off-limits. “There wasn’t anything I couldn’t do if I set my mind to it, if I had deep passion,” she said. That message is not one “a father would relay to a daughter who he didn’t believe had the potential to accomplish exactly what her brothers could,” she said. “So for me, his actions speak louder than the words of many politicians who talk about gender equality but it’s not evidenced in their daily employment practices.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3681 "2016-04-14T23:10:33Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > If you can get the majority of the public to back the idea then the politicians will follow suit. [**Unless** the business interests don’t like it, of course.](http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3682 "2016-04-14T23:10:58Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Future first Jewish president of the United States Ivanka Trump [Just Shut Down Critics Who Say Her Father Mistreats Women](http://fortune.com/2016/04/13/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-women/) I’m sure Heidi Cruz agrees with that. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3683 "2016-04-14T23:13:28Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > The [latest Pew data](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/24/what-americans-want-to-do-about-illegal-immigration/)shows that Americans are evenly split on a wall across the entire US border, for example. No, that is not the latest Pew poll on the wall. [This is](http://www.people-press.org/2016/03/31/2-views-on-immigration-diversity-social-issues/), from March 31, 2016, and it says that 59% oppose the building of a wall on the border. Only 38% support the wall. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3684 "2016-04-14T23:13:43Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Future first Jewish president of the United States Ivanka Trump [Just Shut Down Critics Who Say Her Father Mistreats Women](http://fortune.com/2016/04/13/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-women/) Is that the one he wants to b\*ng? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=183) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=185)