# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 197
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3925 "2016-04-21T03:01:33Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > No, only one will be a winning candidate for the nomination. The other 16 are losers. I don’t know what you are trying to argue against here. It seems desperate. Only twenty eight people have ever gotten the Republican nomination for POTUS (if I counted them correctly). Trump will probably be the twenty eighth, due to _his popularity_. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3926 "2016-04-21T04:08:45Z")
“The Trumpening” I love it. Hank, you have made my day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3927 "2016-04-21T04:17:05Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > [Stick to a discussion of the Trump campaign based on actual facts and logic. . . . It’s the Trump campaign. How is what you are demanding even, logically, possible?! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3928 "2016-04-21T06:34:32Z")
Day 70: [Chris Christie taken hostage](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/722967660833722369). Click the picture to savor the Governor’s ineffable grimace. Note the enforcer in sun glasses who presumably prevents attempts at escape. Today, Indiana, tomorrow ??? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3929 "2016-04-21T07:26:04Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Day 70: [Chris Christie taken hostage](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/722967660833722369). Click the picture to savor the Governor’s ineffable grimace. Note the enforcer in sun glasses who presumably prevents attempts at escape. Today, Indiana, tomorrow ??? … wherever you go to convince Indiana to want you? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3930 "2016-04-21T12:07:08Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > … wherever you go to convince Indiana to want you? Yeah, but, Lord, he can’t go back there. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3931 "2016-04-21T14:32:39Z")
Trump goes back in form by calling the choice of Tubman in the $20 bill to be \*\*just \*\*political correctness, so the “rear” of the money denominations should be more appropriate for her. [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/277100-trump-leave-andrew-jackson-on-front-of-20-bill](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/277100-trump-leave-andrew-jackson-on-front-of-20-bill) > [@](#): > > “I think Harriet Tubman is fantastic. I would love to leave Andrew Jackson and see if we can maybe come up with another denomination. Maybe we do a $2 bill,” Trump said Thursday. > > “I don’t like seeing it. Yes, I think it’s pure political correctness,” he added. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3932 "2016-04-21T15:26:51Z")
Yeah, but the rest of that interview was fascinating: [Donald Trump joins TODAY Show for live town hall, answers voters’ questions - TODAY.com](http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-joins-today-show-live-town-hall-answers-voters-t87551) > [@](#): > > Q: Tell us your views of LGBT and how you plan to be inclusive. Please speak about the North Carolina bathroom law. > > A: “North Carolina did something that was very strong and they’re paying a big price and there’s a lot of problems,” said Trump, who would have left things as they were. “There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate, there has been so little trouble.” He was also asked if Caitlyn Jenner came to Trump Towers, if he’d be ok with her picking whatever bathroom she thought appropriate, and he said yes. > [@](#): > > Q: Do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy? > > A: “I do, I do, including myself. I do.” Grover Norquist is having a heart attack somewhere right now. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3933 "2016-04-21T17:04:43Z")
Based on the actual tax plan Drumpf released, Norquist has nothing to worry about. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > One in four chance of being the most powerful person on the planet, according to prediction markets. > > Nearly nine million votes cast for him so far. > > Yeah, popularity. So by your lights, I suppose we’d have to say that both Nixon and W. were wildly popular when they left office. Whereas I’d say that the way most people use words, Drumpf is one of the most UNpopular people in America. In fact, I would be hard-pressed to think of someone who is more disliked. Maybe Martin Shkreli(sp?), but I’m not sure he is well enough known to have as many people deeply dislike him as Drumpf does. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3934 "2016-04-21T17:21:16Z")
Or as David Brooks put it on MTP ( **BrainGlutton** , I suspect you will like this quote better): > [@](#): > > I think it’s likely Trump. I think he’s the walking dead and he’ll get the nomination and go down to a crushing defeat and will be known for a hundred years from now people will say who’s the biggest loser in American politics and it won’t be McGovern, it won’t be Dukakis, it will be the word Trump. I hope when he is down there in Hades he’s aware of all that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3935 "2016-04-21T17:25:03Z")
I like Trump more than I like… um, bubonic plague, so he’s got that going for him, at least. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3936 "2016-04-21T17:26:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I like Trump more than I like… um, bubonic plague, so he’s got that going for him, at least. His buboes are YUGE! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3937 "2016-04-21T17:59:18Z")
Not dying from the best plague ever? Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3938 "2016-04-23T00:18:37Z")
Some good news since yesterday if you’re Trump: [Politico reported](http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/donald-trump-california-primary-poll-222277) on a poll showing Trump sweeping through California: > [@](#): > > California is worth 172 delegates when it votes on June 7 — with the winner of each of the state’s 53 congressional districts receiving three delegates. The statewide winner receives 13 delegates. > > The Capitol Weekly/Sextant Strategies poll shows Trump winning in almost every corner of the state, from San Diego and Orange County to northern California and the Bay Area, though some regions have small sample sizes. > > Cruz performs strongest in the Central Valley, as he has in previous surveys, though he still trails Trump there by 7 percentage points, 35 percent to 28 percent. Trump leads in the liberal Bay Area, but it is Kasich who nudges above Cruz into second place, trailing Trump 39 percent to 25 percent. > > Trump’s strongest region is the Inland Empire of southern California, where he hits 49 percent support. [Several](http://www.wthr.com/story/31792956/exclusive-wthrhpi-poll-trump-clinton-ahead-in-indiana) [polls](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/22/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-cruz-by-eight-points-in-indiana.html?intcmp=hpbt2) have been showing Trump leading in Indiana And Sam Wang has [a couple projections](http://election.princeton.edu/2016/04/22/two-ways-to-estimate-primary-outcomes-without-polls/) showing that Trump could clear 1,237 pledged delegates before the convention. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3939 "2016-04-23T00:53:26Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Yeah, but the rest of that interview was fascinating: > > [Donald Trump joins TODAY Show for live town hall, answers voters’ questions - TODAY.com](http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-joins-today-show-live-town-hall-answers-voters-t87551) > > > [@](#): > > > > Q: Tell us your views of LGBT and how you plan to be inclusive. Please speak about the North Carolina bathroom law. > > > > A: “North Carolina did something that was very strong and they’re paying a big price and there’s a lot of problems,” said Trump, who would have left things as they were. “There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate, there has been so little trouble.” This is very interesting for two reasons. First, of course, is that it highlights the divide within the modern Republican Party: Republicans aren’t all especially religious. They, being the more conservative of the two parties, are more likely to be favorable to religion, but that’s not the same as wanting a theocracy or even wanting more religiously-inspired legislation. The religious, by which I mean the Fundamentalist Evangelicals, were drawn into the Republican Party within living memory, and there just isn’t any reason the modern marriage between that faction and the more economically-focused factions of the Republican party has to be permanent. The GOP, by which I mean whatever leadership apparatus the Republican Party establishment has left, has to choose which group it will latch onto, and it doesn’t have a lot of time left to decide, as Trump himself proves. Second, and more deeply, it brings into sharp focus what the North Carolina bill is trying to accomplish, why it was inevitable, and why it will inevitably become a massive failure even on its own terms. It’s trying to legislate culture. It’s trying to bring back the culture where everyone knew which bathroom they were supposed to go into and, more importantly, where trans and non-binary people were so far from the mainstream mindset that any discussion about restrooms in this sense would have been unthinkable. As trans and otherwise gender-nonconforming people began to move into the light, such discussions became inevitable, and it was inevitable that the reactionary among the mainstream would try to force the discussion closed with legislation. But you can’t shove the bugle call back into the bugle. You can’t force a discussion to _never have happened_. The mere presence of the question, spoken or not, changes the whole social dynamic, making an unquestionable social norm something that now has to be policed. Finally, in the last stage of this little drama, resistance meets resistance, and the pro-progress forces are stronger than North Carolina or Mississippi or any other reactionary pocket. The law therefore catalyzes its own destruction by giving the forces of progress a tangible target to aim at, instead of the previous condition, where they were forced to shadow-box an implicit cultural assumption which was as pervasive, and as intangible, as air. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3940 "2016-04-23T03:36:09Z")
I was curious, what is the biggest lie Trump has ever told? I think I found it. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3941 "2016-04-23T05:00:22Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > I was curious, what is the biggest lie Trump has ever told? I think I found it. > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8#t=8s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8#t=8s) I don’t like clicking unmarked videos so tell me, is that the "Hillary would make a good president " interview answer? Just a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3942 "2016-04-23T05:15:27Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I don’t like clicking unmarked videos so tell me, is that the "Hillary would make a good president " interview answer? Just a guess. It’s Trump telling Rudy Giuliani in drag he looks “really beautiful”. I don’t know, either. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3943 "2016-04-24T03:04:35Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > It’s Trump telling Rudy Giuliani in drag he looks “really beautiful”… If he wasn’t laughing as he said it, that’s automatically disqualifying for the Presidency. If it’s not in the Constitution, it ought to be. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/3944 "2016-04-24T05:21:03Z")
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