# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4106 "2016-05-03T15:06:56Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Out of the past 65 national polls, Clinton has led Trump is 63 of them. Sooner or later, you’re going to have an outlier poll but there’s no reason to get excited about it until you see other similar polls showing a trend.

There are a lot of statements that Clinton would easily win against Trump. Instead it’s clear the race could go either way.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4107 "2016-05-03T16:25:18Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> There are a lot of statements that Clinton would easily win against Trump. Instead it’s clear the race could go either way.

There’s a lot of polling that Clinton would easily beat Trump and precious little polling showing the opposite.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4108 "2016-05-03T18:14:50Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> There are a lot of statements that Clinton would easily win against Trump. Instead it’s clear the race could go either way.

Based on Rasmussen?? Rasmussen isn’t an “outlier.” Rasmussen is just _this_ side of using a Ouija board and throwing the I Ching. :smack:

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4109 "2016-05-03T19:14:10Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> There’s a lot of polling that Clinton would easily beat Trump and precious little polling showing the opposite.

Yep, add to that factors like:

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[li]A significant number of right wing media completely opposed to Trump. It will not be a robust echo chamber as in previous elections.[/li]  
[li]Several polls from battleground states showing Clinton ahead. [/li]  
[li][The company that Trump keeps](http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/sheriff-joe-arpaio-the-most-lawless-lawman-in-america/359613/). [/li]  
[li][And many skeletons so egregious that even evangelicals do notice](http://drbrianmattson.com/journal/2016/1/23/why-nominating-donald-j-trump-would-be-a-catastrophe).[/li][QUOTE]  
Do you think a narcissist, wheeling-and-dealing businessman like Donald Trump has a few skeletons in his closet? No. He’s got _ **warehouses** _.  
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And many more point to Trump starting the main contest behind the 8 ball, and he is using a [W.C. Fields cue stick](http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/actor-w-c-fields-wielding-a-twisted-pool-cue-as-he-plays-news-photo/50693241).

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4110 "2016-05-03T20:40:33Z")

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Something amusing I discovered.

[Benjamin Franklin:](http://www.gutenberg.org/files/35508/35508-h/35508-h.htm#OBSERVATIONS)

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> And since Detachments of English from Britain, sent to America, will have their Places at Home so soon supply’d and increase so largely here; \*\*why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements and, by herding together, establish their Language and Manners, to the Exclusion of ours? \*\*Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs any more than they can acquire our Complexion?
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> 1. Which leads me to add one Remark, that the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny; Asia chiefly tawny; America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians, and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who, with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we, in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? Why increase the Sons of Africa, by planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

[TRUMP’s geneology:](http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/02/13/466536011/in-trumps-german-ancestral-village-the-locals-are-not-impressed)

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> Donald Trump wrote in his 1987 book, The Art of the Deal, that his grandfather came from Sweden. These days, the Republican presidential hopeful and real estate mogul embraces different paternal roots.
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> **The teetotaler’s grandfather actually comes from a medieval wine-making village called Kallstadt, in the southwestern German state of Rhineland Palatinate.** Like many Americans of German descent, the Trumps apparently stopped referring to their German heritage during the World Wars.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4111 "2016-05-04T00:49:47Z")

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Well, it looks like it’s over. Congratulations?

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4112 "2016-05-04T00:59:23Z")

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Please drop out now Mr. John Kasich.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4113 "2016-05-04T01:14:26Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Please drop out now Mr. John Kasich.

Why would he? He’s got nothing to lose.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4114 "2016-05-04T01:23:10Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Why would he? He’s got nothing to lose.

And nothing to win.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4115 "2016-05-04T01:28:00Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Well, it looks like it’s over. Congratulations?

It is you who should be congratulated. A very winnable race has been handed to Democrats on a silver platter. And even if Trump does somehow pull it out, we still lose because he’s not going to advance conservatism in any way, shape or form except maybe on border issues. Supreme Court justices? Can’t rely on him at all. Taxes and spending? He’s ruled out spending cuts for the most part and wants to raise taxes on the rich. There’s just very little upside for us even under the scenario of a Trump general election victory. Yay, we made Democrats’ heads explode, I guess that’s something. There would be quite the hissy fit if he actually became President. But I’d like to think we aspire to more than just “neener neener”.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4116 "2016-05-04T01:32:45Z")

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It really scares me (and apparently most of the free world) that so many Americans can vote for Trump. The thought of him answering the red (I mean gold) phone at 3AM will keep me up most nights if he wins.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4117 "2016-05-04T01:33:59Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It is you who should be congratulated. A very winnable race has been handed to Democrats on a silver platter.

This is a big reason I’m so worried about the election. **adaher** is so consistently and dependably incorrect in his political prognostications that I fear the chances of a Trump win.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4118 "2016-05-04T01:34:47Z")

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Even in Trump’s case, I think that fear is overrated. As bad as Trump is, he’s better than the other guy on the end of that red phone and far more stable.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4119 "2016-05-04T01:35:50Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> This is a big reason I’m so worried about the election. **adaher** is so consistently and dependably incorrect in his political prognostications that I fear the chances of a Trump win.

This one should scare you more. I’m 42 years old. I’ve voted in every Presidential election since 1992. The candidate I’ve voted for has NEVER won.

And I’m probably voting for Clinton.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4120 "2016-05-04T01:36:06Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> And nothing to win.

He’s gotten this far, he might as well stay in on the off-chance that Trump and Cruz might somehow self-destruct, or meet with accidents, or have unfortunate encounters with garlic or holy water.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4121 "2016-05-04T01:36:13Z")

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So how often do you think ads featuring that white supremacist endorsing Trump will run?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4122 "2016-05-04T01:38:59Z")

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Not at all. It’s irrelevant, much like Communists endorsing the Democrats all those years was irrelevant. Heck, Trump could run ads featuring Louis Farrakhan urging his followers to vote Democrat. Would have the same effect(none at all).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4123 "2016-05-04T01:40:08Z")

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And, what do you know, [Cruz drops out](http://www.npr.org/2016/05/03/476653783/ted-cruz-drops-out-of-presidential-race).

Now ya **gotta** stay in, Kasich! We were promised a convention riot! How else is it gonna happen now?! Please think of the poor starving gonzo journalists! ☹

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4124 "2016-05-04T01:42:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Even in Trump’s case, I think that fear is overrated. As bad as Trump is, he’s better than the other guy on the end of that red phone and far more stable.

You mean that guy in Russia that endorsed Trump? I’ll bet he doesn’t have an agenda in that endorsement.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/4125 "2016-05-04T01:43:05Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Not at all. It’s irrelevant, much like Communists endorsing the Democrats all those years was irrelevant. Heck, Trump could run ads featuring Louis Farrakhan urging his followers to vote Democrat. Would have the same effect(none at all).

Well, nowadays the reaction would be “Whouis Fuckwhat?” It’s been so long since Farrakhan has been in the news. No more resonance than Al Sharpton.

But white nationalists endorsing Trump, that’s a different matter. It says something important about his base that the Commie endorsement never said about the Democrats.

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