# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/602 "2015-11-25T18:22:54Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > **Obama** is an international hero. How many foreigners have a good word for Trump? He’s especially revered in Mexico, where scores of adoring children can be seen honoring his effigy with their gaily colored ceremonial _palos_. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/603 "2015-11-25T20:30:54Z")
Heh. How long before we see Trump _piñatas_ flying off the shelves in Mexico City? ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/604 "2015-11-25T20:38:23Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Heh. How long before we see Trump _piñatas_ flying off the shelves in Mexico City? They can be imported from Los Angeles, where they’re already selling quite well. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/605 "2015-11-25T20:46:20Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > They can be imported from Los Angeles, where they’re already selling quite well. He’s not even elected yet, and already he’s helping our trade deficit. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/606 "2015-11-26T01:30:59Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > They can be imported from Los Angeles, where they’re already selling quite well. Unfortunately, when you break one open . . . well, let’s just say the kids had better play wearing slickers. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/607 "2015-11-26T01:49:32Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Everyone hates lawyers too, but when I’m getting sued I don’t ask my mechanic to represent me. > [@Chronos](#): > > It also doesn’t matter, of course, that he’s a politician. You can’t run for President without being a politician, _by definition_. Yeah, and if I pay a guy to fix a problem with my water pipes, he’s a plumber, _by definition._ But I’d want someone to fix my pipes who was a real plumber with actual experience, not one who was a plumber _by definition._ And I’d want someone as President who was a politician with a modicum of experience, not just a politician _by definition._ ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/608 "2015-11-26T02:40:56Z")
Another anti-Trump ad put out by New Day in America, a pro-Kasich PAC. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TATnH9bhLg) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/609 "2015-11-26T11:26:49Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Trump has two brick walls in his path, or, rather, one brick wall which huts him in two separate ways: His actual favorability numbers objectively stink and therefore he isn’t likely to get endorsements or any nontrivial number of votes. Objectively stink? Not among Republicans, [not really](http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_111915.pdf). At 51%, he’s only four points behind Rubio’s 55% (and waayyyy ahead of Jeb’s 27% and Kasich’s 25%). > [@septimus](#): > > I don’t know if Donald would want to be President but he knows he can’t have it. > > He doesn’t want to be the Republican nominee either. When he fails to equal Goldwater’s 39% of 1964, Trump’s great publicity stunt would turn into a dismal joke and the man would become a laughing-stock, probably after decimating his financial empire in the vain hope of getting to 40%. > > But he might love to be an independent candidate! He’d only need 19% to equal Perot’s 1992 vote. > > Just 15% or 20% as independent could be seen as a victory, contrasting with the ignominy of getting less than 40% as the GOP nominee. He’d be a phenomenon! Ratings for _You’re Fired Part 2_ would go through the roof! (Or would he rename the show _You’re Waterboarded!_ ?) This is an interesting point, but I doubt he’d get Perot-type numbers. I suspect he’d poll more in the 3-5% range, enough to make it an even easier cruise for Hillary but not enough for him to brag about. > [@Derleth](#): > > It’s irrelevant. Kasich is a no-hope known to be too liberal for the field; in terms of his supporters, he’s preaching to the choir, in terms of people who don’t already want a more liberal Republican candidate, it’s too easy to dismiss him as a RINO and ignore him entirely. Yeah, every time Kasich says something to make me admire him, it’s more evidence that he’s out of step with his party. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/610 "2015-11-26T13:28:37Z")
[quote=“Rick\_Kitchen, post:608, topic:729828”] Another anti-Trump ad put out by New Day in America, a pro-Kasich PAC. [/QUOTE] That’s . . . perfect! ---
**Author:** ![basquebromance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@basquebromance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basquebromance)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/611 "2015-11-26T14:33:11Z")
Donald Trump will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created! ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/612 "2015-11-26T14:39:16Z")
[quote=“Rick\_Kitchen, post:608, topic:729828”] Another anti-Trump ad put out by New Day in America, a pro-Kasich PAC. [/QUOTE] Ouch. He’s not exactly making it hard for them either. That clip basically edited itself. ---
**Author:** ![basquebromance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@basquebromance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basquebromance)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/613 "2015-11-26T14:51:46Z")
We’re gonna build a wall. We’re gonna have Mexico pay for it. We’re gonna kick the illegals out. We don’t have a country right now. We’re run by incompetent people. We’re run by incompetent people. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/614 "2015-11-26T17:16:33Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PtdLl05UcRU/hqdefault.jpg "Hadestown by Anais Mitchell - "Why We Build The Wall" and "Our Lady of the Underground"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtdLl05UcRU) (Brief ad at beginning, four seconds) “Why Do We Build the Wall, My Children, My Children”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/615 "2015-11-26T17:52:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > (Brief ad at beginning, four seconds) > > “Why Do We Build the Wall, My Children, My Children”. I still prefer the classic _Building a wall_ from “The Selfish Giant” as it applies so well to haters of others like Trump. [https://vimeo.com/32247131](https://vimeo.com/32247131) > [@](#): > > Building a wall to surround you > Gathering all your treasures around you > Living a life apart > Not letting anyone near you > Building a wall and making them fear you > Saying you have no heart! > > You’re a fool if you think you can live your life without sharing sunshine and gladness. > If you think you can live without love, you’re building a wall of sorrow and madness. > > You’re building a wall to surround yourself. > You’re just building a wall to protect yourself. > You’re just building a wall to defend yourself. > But you’re building a wall that will break your heart! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/616 "2015-11-26T17:56:16Z")
When you set out to create an ad to make Donald Trump look like a blowhard and a fool, you have what the military calls a “target-rich environment.” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/617 "2015-11-26T20:58:37Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > I heard Kasich ask, and I wonder the same thing, who the hell are they polling? People with landlines and no caller ID. Elderly morons. I have no idea how pollsters can hope to design an accurate poll these days, and I think some don’t bother. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/618 "2015-11-26T21:35:05Z")
If we’ve hijacked into poetry appreciation, [one of my favorite poems, long before I ever heard of Trump, is about walls.](http://www.bartleby.com/104/64.html) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/619 "2015-11-26T22:10:36Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > People with landlines and no caller ID. Elderly morons. I have no idea how pollsters can hope to design an accurate poll these days, and I think some don’t bother. Yet in 2012 at least, they were extremely accurate. Maybe one of these cycles we’ll find out different, but OTOH I do think they are adding in cell phones now. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/620 "2015-11-26T22:28:28Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > People with landlines and no caller ID. Elderly morons. I have no idea how pollsters can hope to design an accurate poll these days, and I think some don’t bother. Is there some technical reason why they can’t poll cell-phone users? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/621 "2015-11-27T00:16:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Is there some technical reason why they can’t poll cell-phone users? My WAG is that it’s a hangover from the early days of cell phones, when your typical monthly contract included an adequate but not abundant number of minutes, and the charges for using more minutes than in your contract were pretty steep. I could be wrong, though. Another factor is that any sampling frame based on geography runs into problems with cell phones, because unlike landlines, cell phone numbers aren’t definitively linked to a particular address. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=32)