# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/642 "2015-11-28T20:47:42Z")

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Not exactly the point.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/643 "2015-11-28T20:50:53Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Not exactly the point.

Wait, are you saying that :eek: _mocking the disabled is wrong_? Are you saying Trump shouldn’t have made fun of a disabled reporter for his disability?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/644 "2015-11-28T20:53:57Z")

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Trump claimed later that he does not know Kovaleski; I did note before that Trump also had less of an impressive memory when he claimed that he did not know who the reporter from Univision was, after he had named Jorge Ramos in a complaint in social media against the Univision network a few months before their infamous encounter in a press meet.

Here is more information about the interview Kovaleski did with Trump back then.

> **[Reporter Serge Kovaleski, whom Donald Trump says he’s never seen before,...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2015/11/27/reporter-serge-kovaleski-whom-donald-trump-says-hes-never-seen-before-spent-the-day-with-the-billionaire-while-covering-his-1989-airline-launch-for-the-daily-news/)**
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> The reporter Donald Trump claims he’s never seen before says he spent a whole day with the bombastic billionaire while working for the Daily News — and he’s drawn Trump’s ir…

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> Reporter Serge Kovaleski, whom Donald Trump says he’s never seen before, spent the day with the billionaire while covering his 1989 airline launch for the Daily News

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/645 "2015-11-28T21:26:28Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Wait, are you saying that :eek: _mocking the disabled is wrong_? Are you saying Trump shouldn’t have made fun of a disabled reporter for his disability?

Sure, I’ll go on record as saying that. My previous post goes to questions regarding Trump’s memory and whether he mostly attacks people who’ve attacked him though.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/646 "2015-11-28T21:26:52Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> He wrote a negative article about Trump’s airline in '89 too.

You mean the airline that only operated for three years and never turned a profit. Gosh, who could be negative about that?

> [@Yes](#):
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> “We can’t have unfounded, arrogant press speculation. That’s the last thing we want.”  
> “Even if it’s accurate?”  
> “Oh, especially if it’s accurate.”

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/647 "2015-11-28T21:32:25Z")

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The hit piece was in re the inaugural flight, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/648 "2015-11-28T22:21:33Z")

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“Even if it’s accurate?”  
“Oh, especially if it’s accurate.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/649 "2015-11-29T01:47:21Z")

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Come on, now. Is it so unreasonable for The Donald to demand fawning, uncritical, laudatory press coverage at all times and across all media?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/650 "2015-11-29T01:50:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Come on, now. Is it so unreasonable for The Donald to demand fawning, uncritical, laudatory press coverage at all times and across all media?

When he’s elected, it’s going to be incredible what he does to the press.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/651 "2015-11-29T02:04:49Z")

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The press will write about him and pay _him_ to do it! He’ll be the greatest First Amendment President ever!

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/652 "2015-11-29T02:53:46Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> The hit piece was in re the inaugural flight, IIRC.

What difference does it make whether the hit piece was regarding the inaugural flight or a different flight?

[/snark] I suspect you meant to write _before_.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/653 "2015-11-29T02:56:57Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Yes, Prime Minister

Am I the only one that would love to see a US remake of Yes, Minister/Prime Minister with a thinly disguised Trump look a like, who much to his own shock and surprise becomes President, then has no idea what he’s doing and is shamelessly manipulated by his civil servants.

“Sir Trumphery” 😃

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/654 "2015-11-29T03:45:34Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Am I the only one that would love to see a US remake of Yes, Minister/Prime Minister with a thinly disguised Trump look a like, who much to his own shock and surprise becomes President, then has no idea what he’s doing and is shamelessly manipulated by his civil servants.
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> “Sir Trumphery” 😃

I don’t think there’s really much room to improve on the original, really. And with a shoot-from-the-lip type like Trump you’d lose Sir Humphrey’s greatest weapon; all he had to do was call an idea “courageous” and it was dead in the water.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/655 "2015-11-29T03:51:26Z")

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The original might not be able to be improved but can always be updated to be politically relevant to today and brought before a wider audience. In “Sir Trumpherys” case he would manipulate the Donald-a-like by appealing to his massive ego and love of attention rather than using cowardice as Sir Humphrey does.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/656 "2015-12-01T18:19:26Z")

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[Trump wants 5 million or he won’t show at the next debate.](https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/donald-trump-threatens-cnn-pay-5-million-won-133410542.html)

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> Donald Trump threatened CNN on Monday by promising to withdraw from the next Republican presidential debate on Dec. 15 unless the network pays him $5 million.
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> In front of a Georgia crowd, the real estate mogul said, “How about I tell CNN, who doesn’t treat me properly … I’m not gonna do the next debate, okay?”
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> He then got more serious:”I won’t do the debate unless they pay me $5 million,\*\* all of which goes to Wounded Warriors or goes to vets.”\*\*

I’ll give him points if he’s serious about that.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/657 "2015-12-01T20:31:28Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Trump wants 5 million or he won’t show at the next debate.](https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/donald-trump-threatens-cnn-pay-5-million-won-133410542.html)
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> I’ll give him points if he’s serious about that.

You give him points for extortion?  
If he was doing a speaking engagement somewhere, or being a guest star, he’d ask for money and maybe donate it since he doesn’t need it. But he doesn’t seem to see the difference between doing that and running for president which means it is good for people to see him under fire.  
It might well be an excuse to get out of the debate which he might want to do since he has been heavy on the lying and insulting lately.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/658 "2015-12-01T22:14:30Z")

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That might be a smart move, or perhaps “cunning” is a better word. The debates aren’t doing him much good, he might see them as nothing more than an opportunity for the also-rans to bask in his attention. People tune in to see him, and the others grab what they can. Why should he help them out? He can go give speeches before adoring crowds, serve up his red meat rhetoric of the day, and CNN will cover it. Who needs a debate?

But then, what do I know about how his mind works, I’m not even a cynic, much less a rich one.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/660 "2015-12-02T20:43:20Z")

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> [@jimd](#):
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> For once, Trump was right
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> \*Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a majorIsraeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers.They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations – Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building – **celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.**
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> The Israelis at Liberty State Park were **dressed in Arab-style clothing** when they were **witnessed celebrating the first attack**.The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.\*
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> [Israeli art students who shadowed 9-11 hijackers were part of a major Mossad intelligence operation - Looking Glass News](http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r)

The linked story comes from a conspiracy nutter named Wayne Madsen.  
Think he isn’t a nutter? [Here is an article about Madsen claiming Obama is gay.](http://www.thenation.com/article/whats-behind-rights-obama-gay-conspiracy/)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/661 "2015-12-03T09:35:51Z")

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Step One on campaign going straight to hell: [He ain’t getting the billionaire money.](https://www.yahoo.com/politics/millions-at-stake-the-adelson-primary-is-neck-125553624.html)

It appears the Adelsons will be backing Cruz and/or Rubio, or none at all right now. They may want to wait out the sniping contest both Rubio & Cruz are having with smear ads, or they just may give to both campaigns.

NO WHERE is there any mention of Donald Trump, his campaign, or his candidacy. This is where everyone can stop paying attention to voting polls.

With the Kochs and Super PACs remaining, he’s not getting any more major finances. So is Trump even willing to go independent and suck up 15-20% of GOP votes away from their real nominee, or is my “out by January” prediction due to be extended?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/662 "2015-12-03T13:45:11Z")

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Sure, money is nice. Big money is nicer. But when you’ve got a significant chunk of the party who will greedily slurp up the nonsense coming out of your mouth, no matter what it is, do you really need money? Jeb has spent a lot of money and that money hasn’t gotten him squat. I’m really beginning to think none of the conventional political wisdom applies to Trump.

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