# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/803 "2015-12-08T21:30:16Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > On behalf of the Welsh and the Cornish, I’d like to remind you of another non-Christian group that just kept coming in large numbers, bringing terror and violence with them, murdering and oppressing the Christian people of Britain: the English. Ah now we are talking Rugby aren’t we Dr Drake, yes I admit we do send missionaries to Wales to teach them how to play the game and Cornwall are coming on strong with their game For those who do not know the United Kingdom is four proud nations + Cornwall each with their own history and culture, between us there is a great deal of banter But we stand as one against any who attack just one of us ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/804 "2015-12-08T21:40:19Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > In the USA, we imprisoned Japanese & _Japanese-Americans_. Men, women & children born in the USA. But you could tell they were “different” by looking at them. Imprisoning or overseeing foreign nationals in a time of war is one thing–this is considered a shameful episode in our history. > > What you have been “experiencing” is not just terrorism–but the presence of non-white people in your countries. How many came from your former colonies? Yes, we know that racists & xenophobes in the UK & Europe are becoming more vocal. Shame on you. Islam is not a race or colour it is a global religion who’s religious book the Quran encourages them Not to tolerate any other religion but Islam. May I suggest that those who have not read the Quran do so and also study Sharia Law ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/805 "2015-12-08T21:49:05Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > Islam is not a race or colour it is a global religion who’s religious book the Quran encourages them Not to tolerate any other religion but Islam. May I suggest that those who have not read the Quran do so and also study Sharia Law No thanks. According to you, reading the Quran apparently turns some significant percentage of people into mindless killers. Can’t risk that. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/806 "2015-12-08T22:01:42Z")
I picture Trump continuing to bring up more crazy/insane ideas as time goes by to see who continues to support him. Then when the GOP dumps him and he goes back on his word to run as a 3rd party candidate he’ll have all his supporters register as loyal Trumpsters. Then he’ll go the the FBI/CIA/NSA and tell them “You know there are a lot of radical crazy people in this country who are very dangerous and need to be watched. Here’s a list of all of them. You’re welcome.” ---
**Author:** ![fire\_hazard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6de8d8/32.png) [@fire\_hazard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fire_hazard)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/807 "2015-12-08T22:12:01Z")
I have a much less utopian view of Mr. Trump. Is there a possibility a sizeable proportion of Americans will be thinking that “Obama wants to ban guns and Trump wants to ban Muslims. My vote goes to…”? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/808 "2015-12-08T22:12:56Z")
Trump is clearly nuts. I don’t know if he can win the presidency. I don’t know if I know anyone that talks like Trump towards Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/809 "2015-12-08T22:14:30Z")
> [@fire\_hazard](#): > > I have a much less utopian view of Mr. Trump. > > Is there a possibility a sizeable proportion of Americans will be thinking that “Obama wants to ban guns and Trump wants to ban Muslims. My vote goes to…”? Will be hard to vote for Obama in '16. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/810 "2015-12-08T22:25:11Z")
Another vote for this being his exit strategy. I sincerely doubt he’ll run as independent. Independent book tour, sure… Picturing the 3-party debate with Clinton, Cruz & Trump is hilarious. “IT’S GOD!” “NO! IT’S THE NRA!” And Hillary won’t have to say a thing, just shake her head in rhythm and disbelief. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/811 "2015-12-08T22:36:19Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Will be hard to vote for Obama in '16. Not if you bring a pen. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/812 "2015-12-08T22:46:37Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I picture Trump continuing to bring up more crazy/insane ideas as time goes by to see who continues to support him. Then when the GOP dumps him and he goes back on his word to run as a 3rd party candidate he’ll have all his supporters register as loyal Trumpsters. > Then he’ll go the the FBI/CIA/NSA and tell them “You know there are a lot of radical crazy people in this country who are very dangerous and need to be watched. Here’s a list of all of them. You’re welcome.” His facebook post today: A new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran as an independent. And the [numbers](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/12/08/poll-trump-cruz-rubio-clinton-sanders/76948760/) check out. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/813 "2015-12-08T22:58:28Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Yes, I see what he’s doing and acknowledged as much. How that plays out as a strategy for a presidential candidate is what I’m not understanding. Is this his long term strategy? Does he think if this strategy somehow gets him the GOP nomination that it will continue to work in the general election? This strategy works if you want a short burst of attention. But the presidential race is a long haul. I don’t think it will work, but he does. More accurately I think the reality is this is just who he is. It’s not a “strategy”, he’s just acting the way he always has, and that has made him rich and famous. I suspect it’s inherently limiting … but I also think he has a visceral understanding of persuasion, media, and human psychology that’s much better than mine. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/814 "2015-12-08T23:17:14Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > Islam is not a race or colour it is a global religion who’s religious book the Quran encourages them Not to tolerate any other religion but Islam. Is there _any_ religious book that encourages its followers to tolerate any religion other than the one it espouses? ---
**Author:** ![fire\_hazard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6de8d8/32.png) [@fire\_hazard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fire_hazard)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/815 "2015-12-08T23:55:49Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Will be hard to vote for Obama in '16. Your faith in the intelligence of American voters is touching. Let me try again. “The Liberal media want to ban guns and Trump wants to ban Muslims. I want to make America great again so …” I’m not dreaming that opinion up. There are less refined areas of the internet where this equivalence is being made. Are you confident that is an insignificant portion of the American electorate? Since “the Caliphate” may well act to assist with the polarisation of opinion and further this agenda I doubt this question will just go away. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/816 "2015-12-08T23:56:01Z")
This seems to be the final nail in the coffin for Trump. I can’t see his candidacy surviving his call to ban Muslims. I haven’t seen anyone from the GOP support him on this. Losing the GOP’s support wipes out his political base. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/817 "2015-12-09T00:02:16Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This seems to be the final nail in the coffin for Trump. I can’t see his candidacy surviving his call to ban Muslims. I haven’t seen anyone from the GOP support him on this. Losing the GOP’s support wipes out his political base. The GOP establishment, sure, but they all hate Trump already. There’s some indication that GOP base voters might [actually approve](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/08/new_trump_poll_results_show_support_for_anti_muslim_positions.html) of this position. And really, it’s only different in degree from Carson’s statement that Muslims shouldn’t hold public office, or various candidates’ statements that only Christian refugees from Syria should be allowed to enter the US. Trump is just distilling that stuff down into crack form. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/818 "2015-12-09T00:35:11Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Even Dick Cheney – _Dick Cheney!_ – says Trump’s call to ban all Muslims is “[against everything we stand for](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dick-cheney-donald-trump-muslim-ban-extreme).” Yeah, when the Prince of Darkness himself says something is a step too far … ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/819 "2015-12-09T00:37:26Z")
Seems unlikely Trump will win many primaries. But, I envision a revolt at the convention if Trump were to somehow win enough primaries for the nomination. The GOP has to consider the rest of the ticket. The House and Senate candidates, and the state candidates. Trump as the nominee would severely hurt the GOP’s chances. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/820 "2015-12-09T00:52:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m still somewhat convinced that this is all a massive troll on the part of Trump. > > I expect him to keep pushing this as far as he possibly can. He’s already talked about a national identification database for Muslims living in the US. Next, will be him issuing a policy statement that merely keeping Muslims out is not enough, and we need to keep all of these “American” Muslims together in one place, so we can keep an eye on them. > > Sort of a series of places where they can all live together - an encampment, so to speak. And he’ll have lots and lots of people who absolutely LOVE this idea. > > I think he’s going to keep pushing this as far as he can, just to see how far he can push the lunatic fringe of the Republican Party. Then he’ll have his “big reveal”, where he laughs at them. [This read has a pretty good pay-off (even if I would have preferred an audio file).](http://prairiehome.org/script/guy-noir-december-5-2015/) ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/821 "2015-12-09T00:57:06Z")
Trump is gathering all of the absolute worst people in the nation that we should not want to be part of the political process because of their radical and hate-filled views, and making sure that they have no actual power by getting them rallied behind a candidate that has absolutely no chance of winning. He continues to raise the temperature of the rhetoric just to make sure that it’s only those truly awful people who will follow him. Anyone with a lick of sense will be thrown from the bandwagon back into the political environment where they can actually make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/822 "2015-12-09T01:16:01Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This seems to be the final nail in the coffin for Trump. I can’t see his candidacy surviving his call to ban Muslims. I haven’t seen anyone from the GOP support him on this. Losing the GOP’s support wipes out his political base. Trump’s supporters eat this stuff up, and he’s already proven he doesn’t need the GOP establishment. I fully expect his poll numbers to remain the same or even go up. The few Trump supporters I’ve come across really do live in a bubble, and believe that Trump can easily beat Clinton in a general election. If they have any clue that Trump can’t win a general election without some minority support, they don’t care. It’s baffling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=42)