# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/843 "2015-12-09T04:19:37Z")
He has gone bankrupt four times. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/844 "2015-12-09T04:26:27Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > Islam is not a race or colour it is a global religion who’s religious book the Quran encourages them Not to tolerate any other religion but Islam. May I suggest that those who have not read the Quran do so and also study Sharia Law This is factually incorrect > [@](#): > > “To you be your religion, to me be mine.” Please do some research before spouting idiocy ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/845 "2015-12-09T04:29:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > He has gone bankrupt four times. No, he hasn’t. He’s taken four of his business enterprises bankrupt. His other businesses remained solvent and have prospered. He’s also never filed personal bankruptcy. It’s clear you don’t understand how corporate bankruptcies work, nor the difference between corporate bankruptcies and personal ones. It would behoove you to educate yourself before make any further such proclamations ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/846 "2015-12-09T04:35:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, he hasn’t. > > He’s taken four of his business enterprises bankrupt. His other businesses remained solvent and have prospered. He’s also never filed personal bankruptcy. > > It’s clear you don’t understand how corporate bankruptcies work, nor the difference between corporate bankruptcies and personal ones. It would behoove you to educate yourself before make any further such proclamations What part of “he has gone bankrupt four times” is not factually correct? And this is Elections, not the Pit, so moderate your tone. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/847 "2015-12-09T04:46:59Z")
Because in bankruptcy law there’s a difference between corporate bankruptcies and personal ones. Trump did not go bankrupt; some of his companies did. And I believe we’re allowed to call out other posters for their ignorance in this forum, and most others. I didn’t call you a name or call you a liar, so as far as I know I’m golden. Kind of like Trump. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/848 "2015-12-09T05:15:30Z")
I would certainly say that you are golden in the manner of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/849 "2015-12-09T06:12:42Z")
Why, thank ye, **tomndebb** , but I’m afraid I’m about four billion shy of truly being golden in the manner of Trump. But I appreciate the compliment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/850 "2015-12-09T06:15:25Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This seems to be the final nail in the coffin for Trump. I can’t see his candidacy surviving his call to ban Muslims. I haven’t seen anyone from the GOP support him on this. Losing the GOP’s support wipes out his political base. But how many of the general GOP base would respond, “But why shouldn’t we? They’re terrorists!” Might the countering by the “establishment” harden their hearts towards Ryan, Cheney, et al and their favored candidates? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/851 "2015-12-09T06:23:19Z")
Looks to me like his Muslim ban comments are only increasing his support. And it’s not hard to understand why. It’s the wrong answer given the current circumstances, but it’s also a no bullshit answer. If mainstream candidates would speak clearly and honestly Trump would have no following. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/852 "2015-12-09T06:55:43Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Looks to me like his Muslim ban comments are only increasing his support. And it’s not hard to understand why. It’s the wrong answer given the current circumstances, but it’s also a no bullshit answer. If mainstream candidates would speak clearly and honestly Trump would have no following. Does this mean you think that the mainstream Republicans’ responses to Trump’s comment strike the electorate as “bullshit”? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/853 "2015-12-09T07:02:37Z")
I think that most mainstream politicians speak fluent bullshit. Especially when it comes to immigration and visa issues. I think that what most of them would like to say is, “Our current policies are adequate,should even be more liberal” but what we actually get is a lot of hemming and hawing and promises to maybe enforce the law a little better in unspecified ways. And that’s because most Americans would probably not characterize our current visa or immigration policies as adequate or not liberal enough. Given a choice between bullshit and extreme no-nonsense, a large portion of voters will go for the extreme no-nonsense. And those of us who embrace the bullshit only do it because we’ve made the effort to try to translate it and decide that it means something we can accept. And then only because there are no better alternatives. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/854 "2015-12-09T07:20:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Is there _any_ religious book that encourages its followers to tolerate any religion other than the one it espouses? That’s quite true, as is the following example: > [@DMC](#): > > He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. - Exodus 22:20 > > If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the Lord thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the Lord thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. - Deuteronomy 13:12-16 > > For fuck’s sake, even their cows are not safe. > > Needless to say, I could go on and on and on with similar verses. The difference, though, is that Muslims seem to be behind adherents of other religions in their stage of development, such that they take their intolerant scripture more seriously even in the 21st century: more on a par with how Christians did decades or centuries ago. Compare for example the controversy over Martin Scorsese’s film “The Last Temptation of Christ”. Thirty years later it probably wouldn’t even incite the minor stir it did in the '80s. But distribute “The Last Temptation of Muhammad” and you will get riots across the Muslim world, very possibly shootings or bombings at any theatre that dared to exhibit the film, and the film’s producers, director, and actors would have to go into hiding the way the Danish cartoonist did (and the way the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists probably should have). > [@aceplace57](#): > > This seems to be the final nail in the coffin for Trump. I can’t see his candidacy surviving his call to ban Muslims. I haven’t seen anyone from the GOP support him on this. Losing the GOP’s support wipes out his political base. Ha, dream on. \*\*BobLibDem \*\*has it right on this. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/855 "2015-12-09T07:32:28Z")
I am waiting for Trump to next suggest, without the slightest hint of irony, that all muslims should be forced to wear a green moon badge on their clothing so everyone can identify them. Please someone get on a mic at one of his rallies and suggest that so we can see him run his mouth with it… ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/856 "2015-12-09T09:43:34Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. - Exodus 22:20 > > If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the Lord thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the Lord thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. - Deuteronomy 13:12-16 > Needless to say, I could go on and on and on with similar verses. For fuck’s sake, even their cows are not safe. Yes you are correct, the big difference is that Christians are not carrying out atrocities from the Bible in this day and age, the massive problem is that Islam encourages Muslims to live their lives as the prophet Mohamad lived his life 1400 years ago, this is has become a major problem in Europe. As a Christian I treat the Old Testament that you have quoted as a history book (unreliable as it is) My Holy Scripture is the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/857 "2015-12-09T09:54:55Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Is there _any_ religious book that encourages its followers to tolerate any religion other than the one it espouses? Jesus asks Christians to tell people the good news, we are then told to allow them to make their own mind up, we are told to love them not to threaten them. A massive difference between Christianity and Islam Have you read the Quran so that you can make a true comparssion ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/858 "2015-12-09T12:05:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Is there _any_ religious book that encourages its followers to tolerate any religion other than the one it espouses? Yes, all religions that don’t proselytize. Eg Judaism, Hindusim, Sikhism, Jainism. Buddhism is also pretty tolerant although some dominations do seek converts. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/859 "2015-12-09T13:30:03Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Seems like a bizarre system to me, so any candidate can yank a party in any direction they want if they’re popular enough? I thought a political party was supposed to have ideals it was founded on. Our system has historical underpinnings and ideals but I think it’s currently the looniest one in the First World. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/860 "2015-12-09T13:51:39Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Our system has historical underpinnings and ideals but I think it’s currently the looniest one in the First World. You’ve got a system designed to be porous to capitalist interference and manipulation. People becomes politicians to make money. Big money. Those are the underpinnings and ideals. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/861 "2015-12-09T13:52:49Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I am waiting for Trump to next suggest, without the slightest hint of irony, that all muslims should be forced to wear a green moon badge on their clothing so everyone can identify them. > > Please someone get on a mic at one of his rallies and suggest that so we can see him run his mouth with it… Trump has already said Muslims should have special identification. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/862 "2015-12-09T14:06:59Z")
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