# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/903 "2015-12-10T16:22:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > To be fair, that’s only because Jade Goody died. Jade Goody died six years ago and much of the hatred was incited against her - I mean, she was really quite stupid but most of her crimes were the petty unthinking bigotry of the uneducated, not the deliberate and calculated hatemongering of Hopkins and her ilk. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/904 "2015-12-10T16:26:37Z")
I know. It was a joke. Probably should have used a smiley or something. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/905 "2015-12-10T16:41:02Z")
Wait, Katie Hopkins is a journalist? I thought she was just some dumb airhead that british chat shows have on for a laugh. Which is to say, I only know of her because the clip of her on some show complaining about children with geographic names and apparently forgetting that her daughter is named India. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/906 "2015-12-10T17:54:50Z")
CNN [article](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/politics/donald-trump-media-backlash/index.html)saying the media is starting to change how it covers Trump: > [@CNN](#): > > With Trump’s call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, several of the nation’s most esteemed journalists and influential news outlets have set aside traditional notions of balance and given themselves license to label the Republican front-runner a liar, a demagogue, a racist and worse. > > Tom Brokaw, the veteran NBC News anchor, has called Trump’s proposal “dangerous,” and likened it to the Holocaust and the Japanese internment. On its front page, The New York Times has said Trump’s idea is “more typically associated with hate groups.” Dan Balz, of The Washington Post, has called Trump’s rhetoric “demagogic,” while BuzzFeed editor-in-chief Ben Smith has informed staff that it is acceptable to refer to Trump on social media as a “mendacious racist,” because, he said, those are facts. The article goes on to provide other examples. The article notes, however, that Trump and his supporters view media disdain as a badge of honor and that this shift in reporting will not erode the support he already has. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/907 "2015-12-10T18:02:24Z")
Has Bill Gates said anything about Trump’s proposal that he help El Trumpo censor the internet? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/908 "2015-12-10T18:07:43Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > CNN [article](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/politics/donald-trump-media-backlash/index.html)saying the media is starting to change how it covers Trump: > The article goes on to provide other examples. The article notes, however, that Trump and his supporters view media disdain as a badge of honor and that this shift in reporting will not erode the support he already has. Trump and his supporters are sociopaths. They already hate the media, this doesn’t change anything. ALL Republicans think that media sources other than FOX or Hate Radio are communist Muslim sympathizers. It’s quite distressing to see people cheering Trump. It’s even more distressing to think that a solid majority of Republicans agree with a ban on Muslims. Now the other candidates will either have to dance to his tune or leave the arena. No matter what, we’re going to get a nominee who is a religious bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/909 "2015-12-10T18:10:36Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Has Bill Gates said anything about Trump’s proposal that he help El Trumpo censor the internet? Does The Donald think that his supporters are so stupid as to think that Bill Gates somehow has anything to do with controlling the internet? Or is The Donald in fact that stupid as to think that? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/910 "2015-12-10T18:13:01Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Does The Donald think that his supporters are so stupid as to think that\*\* Bill Gates somehow has anything to do with controlling the internet?\*\* > > Or is The Donald in fact that stupid as to think that? Yeah, everyone knows that’s Gore’s job. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/911 "2015-12-10T18:14:04Z")
Media ought to change how they cover him by not covering him at all. It will never happen, but not giving him the attention he is so obviously seeking out would be the best way to knock him down. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/912 "2015-12-10T18:32:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Does The Donald think that his supporters are so stupid as to think that Bill Gates somehow has anything to do with controlling the internet? > > Or is The Donald in fact that stupid as to think that? Heh. If Bill Gates could wield that kind of control over the internet, Trump probably would have been kicked off of it months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/913 "2015-12-10T18:48:50Z")
For crying out loud, Trump isn’t “banning” Muslims! He merely wants a moritorium on Muslim immigration pending development of a sufficient way to vet them for terrorists. Everyone with half a brain knows terrorists are working to infiltrate their numbers to gain entry to the U.S. to commit acts of terror. I understand our country’s liberal contingent never concerns themselves with the victims of their wrongheaded social warrioring, but the exaggeration and hysteria going on over this would be laughable if so many weren’t buying into it. It’s perfectly reasonable to assess threats coming into the country and take steps to prevent them. It’s not like we’re uprooting them from their homes and friends and jobs and fencing them in like we did the Japanese 70 years ago, we merely want to weed out those who would do us harm as best we can before they have a chance to do so. If you don’t give a shit about invading terrorists then come out and say so, but knock it off with this idiotic crap and hysteria about Trump wanting to “ban” Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/914 "2015-12-10T18:55:36Z")
Did anyone see Trump’s [plan](https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-has-a-huge-1317867072716854.html) to get at least 93% of the black vote, and thinks he can get 100%? He’s really pushing for the black vote because he wants to show you that he’s not racist. He’s so not racist, in fact, that a member of his inner circle, Michael Cohen, actually says - about Trump not being a racist - “Trump needs to win black voters because other minority groups won’t support him…The truth, yeah, I’m trying to coordinate it because I am mindful of the fact that, you know, there are coalitions and I’m talking about now like Hispanic coalitions that … will not support Trump. **And that’s OK because the ones that don’t like Trump aren’t even here legally and they can’t vote, so it doesn’t really matter, right?** ” Because the easiest way to show you’re not racist is to say that no Latino voters would vote for you because “they aren’t even here legally and they can’t vote, so it doesn’t matter.” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/915 "2015-12-10T18:56:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > He merely wants a moritorium on Muslim immigration pending development of a sufficient way to vet them for terrorists. And if you believe the day would ever come when Trump would concede that the vetting was sufficient and the ban would end, then Chris Christie has a bridge to sell you. The idea of asking anyone what religion they are in order to conduct any government business should make any rational person recoil in horror. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/916 "2015-12-10T18:59:31Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > For crying out loud, Trump isn’t “banning” Muslims! He merely wants a moritorium on Muslim immigration pending development of a sufficient way to vet them for terrorists. > > Everyone with half a brain knows terrorists are working to infiltrate their numbers to gain entry to the U.S. to commit acts of terror. I understand our country’s liberal contingent never concerns themselves with the victims of their wrongheaded social warrioring, but the exaggeration and hysteria going on over this would be laughable if so many weren’t buying into it. > > It’s perfectly reasonable to assess threats coming into the country and take steps to prevent them. It’s not like we’re uprooting them from their homes and friends and jobs and fencing them in like we did the Japanese 70 years ago, we merely want to weed out those who would do us harm as best we can before they have a chance to do so. > > If you don’t give a shit about invading terrorists then come out and say so, but knock it off with this idiotic crap and hysteria about Trump wanting to “ban” Muslims. I don’t give a shit about invading terrorists. No, that’s not quite right. I think Mr. Trump’s notion (it’s not even a plan, really) is pure bigotry and will do nothing whatsoever to reduce the risk of a domestic terrorist attack. Nor would I characterize my reaction to his notion as ‘hysteria’. But thanks, as always, for the straw-manning. [Walter SobchakI] Calmer than you. [/Walter Sobchak] ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/917 "2015-12-10T19:01:37Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > For crying out loud, Trump isn’t “banning” Muslims! He merely wants a moritorium on Muslim immigration pending development of a sufficient way to vet them for terrorists. For crying out loud, at least look this shit up before posting. Trump is [banning Muslims](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration) - all of them - from entering the country. Not just immigrants, but students, businesspeople, diplomats, vacationers and so on. And it’s not “pending development” of anything. It’s “until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.” That language is vague enough to support a ban for pretty much ever, especially given Congress’ present level of productivity. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/918 "2015-12-10T19:02:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > If you don’t give a shit about invading terrorists then come out and say so, but knock it off with this idiotic crap and hysteria about Trump wanting to “ban” Muslims. Well, he’s said that, if a someone tried to enter the US via airplane, they would be asked if they’re Muslim. If they say “yes,” they don’t get into the country. Sounds a lot like banning to me. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/919 "2015-12-10T19:04:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > . . .He merely wants a moritorium on Muslim immigration. . . By thy etymologies they shall know thee. _Moratorium_: postponement, from Latin _mora_, “delay.” _mori-_ is a bit too close to Latin _mōri_, “to die.” ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/920 "2015-12-10T19:06:52Z")
Mary / Elizabeth: The Protestants / Catholics aren’t real Christians. And everyone hates the Jews [/Tom] ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/921 "2015-12-10T19:07:11Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > And it’s not “pending development” of anything. It’s “until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.” Sure sounds like ‘pending development’ to me. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/922 "2015-12-10T19:09:11Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Absolutely true–historically. > > In 2015, no significant portion of the Christian world is in the “Spanish Inquisition” phase, while a significant portion of the Islamic world still is. They are behind the times, simple as that. But the reason Christians are now tolerant is the increasing secularization of Western nations, not anything that Jesus said. Hell, Iraq under Saddam was reasonably secular and tolerant of religion - just not of opposition. I believe his number 2 man was a Christian and women didn’t have to fear going to school. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=47)