# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/81 "2015-09-10T14:33:43Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> \*They just ask this about Trump, Carson, Cruz, Bush, Rubio, and Walker. They must figure, as I do, that the rest of the field really doesn’t count anymore.

I don’t think you can rule Kasich out yet, but other than that, yes.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/82 "2015-09-10T14:55:17Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I don’t think you can rule Kasich out yet, but other than that, yes.

He’s down to 2% in the last two national polls. He got a brief burst of support after he entered the race, and grabbed the last ticket to the grownup table in the Fox News debate. But unless all the remaining not-insane GOPers rally around him because he ridiculed the whole notion of ripping up the Iran deal by Jan. 21, 2017, I don’t see how he’s going to fight his way back in.

And he’s got his apostasy on the Obamacare Medicaid expansion like a millstone around his neck. Trump’s got the personality to get away with apostasy; Kasich, not so much.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/83 "2015-09-10T15:32:16Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> But unless all the remaining not-insane GOPers rally around him because he ridiculed the whole notion of ripping up the Iran deal by Jan. 21, 2017, I don’t see how he’s going to fight his way back in.

As long as he can do the best imitation of a responsible, capable adult, that could well happen. It would take into early next year, though.

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> And he’s got his apostasy on the Obamacare Medicaid expansion like a millstone around his neck. Trump’s got the personality to get away with apostasy; Kasich, not so much.

If the money decides Kasich has the best chance in November 2016, then can make it happen, just like they did with the founder of Romneycare.

He’s still a longshot as of today, though.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/84 "2015-09-10T16:45:02Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> I was driving today in the morning and the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the “pundits” on the radio is hilarious.
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> Also: Trump’s support higher among independents than among Republicans. He’s the only Republican candidate that has that. Which is kinda important for the general election.

Careful what you wish for. A Trump nomination pretty much destroys your party. It’s still early and no delegates have been won. Recall several years ago, the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in exhibition play and then when the regular season started, they went 0-16. In early 2016, the votes come in fast and furious and the marginal candidates start dropping like flies. If it’s Bush v Trump by Super Tuesday, Bush mops the floor with him.

You can’t make a sustained run as Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. At some point you have to get real. Saying “I’ll know the difference between Hezbollah and Hamas when I need to” isn’t going to cut it.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/85 "2015-09-10T16:46:57Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Careful what you wish for. A Trump nomination pretty much destroys your party.

I will repeat yet again. I am not a Republican.

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> If it’s Bush v Trump by Super Tuesday, Bush mops the floor with him.

I doubt it. But we will see. So far every time someone made a prediction about Trump, they were very, very wrong.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/86 "2015-09-10T16:52:41Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> I will repeat yet again. I am not a Republican.  
> I doubt it. But we will see. So far every time someone made a prediction about Trump, they were very, very wrong.

Just out of curiosity, how would you categorize your political leanings?

Trump has confounded the pundits and experts, but he can’t do so past the new year. When people get serious about the campaign, he won’t be taken seriously. I predict he drops out after Super Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/87 "2015-09-10T18:01:49Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, how would you categorize your political leanings?

Conservative/Libertarian.

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> Trump has confounded the pundits and experts, but he can’t do so past the new year. When people get serious about the campaign, he won’t be taken seriously. I predict he drops out after Super Tuesday.

I look forward to you eating that prediction 🙂

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/88 "2015-09-10T18:04:19Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Conservative/Libertarian.  
> I look forward to you eating that prediction 🙂

I’ve been wrong before, so no biggie. I’d be happy to see Trump nominated so we can give him a good thumping in November. But I’d rather see them nominate a True Believer like Cruz so they can get it out of their system and not be able to say they lost because they weren’t conservative enough.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/89 "2015-09-10T18:06:08Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’ve been wrong before, so no biggie. I’d be happy to see Trump nominated so we can give him a good thumping in November.

Again, looking forward to you eating that prediction 🙂

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/90 "2015-09-10T18:18:24Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Again, looking forward to you eating that prediction 🙂

Are you seriously predicting a Trump election win?

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/91 "2015-09-10T18:19:44Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Are you seriously predicting a Trump election win?

If he is nominated? Especially against Hillary? Yes. You seriously underestimate just how many people who have never voted before he’s going to pull in to the polls.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/92 "2015-09-10T18:22:27Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> If he is nominated? Especially against Hillary? Yes. You seriously underestimate just how many people who have never voted before he’s going to pull in to the polls.

We’ll owe Hillary some janitorial pay after she mops the floor with him.

All the angry white voters already vote and they already vote Republican. His unpopularity among Hispanics and his chauvinistic attitude toward women will make him the next electoral coming of Mike Dukakis.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/93 "2015-09-10T18:24:18Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> We’ll owe Hillary some janitorial pay after she mops the floor with him.
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> All the angry white voters already vote and they already vote Republican. His unpopularity among Hispanics and his chauvinistic attitude toward women will make him the next electoral coming of Mike Dukakis.

Delusional. But that’s good. Keep thinking that.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/94 "2015-09-10T18:51:16Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Delusional. But that’s good. Keep thinking that.

I think Trump would be a very poor general election candidate (I think he’d do especially poorly with women and minorities), but unlike **BobLibDem** , I won’t make a prediction this early. If you’re ready to make a prediction of a Trump victory, though, I think you’re as delusional as you’re accusing him of being.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/95 "2015-09-10T18:54:31Z")

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I’m gonna venture a prediction. Two, actually:

1. Trump will go deep into the primaries, and go into the convention with a decent chunk of delegates. (He might even be the nominee, but I’m not making a prediction either way on that.)

2. The GOP nominee - Trump or anyone else in the current field - will get sliced, diced, shredded, spindled, folded, and mutilated by Hillary in the fall of 2016.

Cripes, this crew makes Romney look better all the time. If nobody wins enough delegates during the primaries to win the nomination outright, the party might yet send him an invite to run again.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/96 "2015-09-10T18:58:49Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> 1. The GOP nominee - Trump or anyone else in the current field - will get sliced, diced, shredded, spindled, folded, and mutilated by Hillary in the fall of 2016.

I only hope more Democrats think that way. Opponent’s complacence is great.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/97 "2015-09-10T19:00:39Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> You seriously underestimate just how many people who have never voted before he’s going to pull in to the polls.

You seriously underestimate how many of those will be going just to vote against him.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/98 "2015-09-10T19:00:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …Cripes, this crew makes Romney look better all the time. If nobody wins enough delegates during the primaries to win the nomination outright, the party might yet send him an invite to run again.

Few months back, when I started making wisecracks about the Draft Romney! movement (Pale, tired and unprepared!) I was joking. Now it appears I may have been prescient.

That’s starting to worry me. If I can’t make a joke too stupid to come true…

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/99 "2015-09-10T19:01:34Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> I only hope more Democrats think that way. Opponent’s complacence is great.

Right – and we hope that you think Trump will easily dispatch Hillary.

And I hope that you hope that Hillary will underestimate Trump, and you hope that I hope that you hope that Hillary will underestimate Trump, and so on.

There, now we don’t need the next 20 posts.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/100 "2015-09-10T19:04:29Z")

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You hope.

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