# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1023 "2015-12-13T16:12:03Z")
Trump is too far out there … [for the leader of the American Nazi Party.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/american-nazi-doubts-donald-trump-muslim-ban-work-article-1.2463790) > [@](#): > > “Unless Trump plans on ruling by Presidential Decree, I don’t see how he would implement ANY of his ‘plans,’ Rocky Suhayda told Buzzfeed in an email. “The rest of the sold out ‘mainstream’ political whores would block his every move.” > > Suhayda said he wasn’t even sure if an elected Trump would even carry out the anti-Muslim plan. > > “I seriously doubt if he even believes all what he says, but its nice to have someone like him saying it,” he wrote. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1024 "2015-12-13T16:16:59Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > [Meanwhile…](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/12/donald-trump-hits-ted-cruz-saudi-prince/77205622/) > > (of course _ **Ted** _ did not come out of Cuba, but when has that mattered to DJT) > > Seriously… so it finally comes down _overtly_ to, _“hey guys, he’s a non-Anglo, he’s half Hispanic and his dad was not a born American”_. Or if you wanted to get really sophisticated “hey guys his grandparents were Catholic”. I find it hilarious that you think anti-Catholicism would be even remotely relevant in American politics in 2016 especially considering much of Trump’s political base in the Northeast and Midwest are angry lower-middle class/working-class “Reagan Democrat” Catholics. > [@](#): > > Between Cruz and Rubio and Mrs. Bush one was expecting this would be the election when the GOP base would have gotten over the notion that a particular candidate is “alien” or alien-“influenced”. But I guess Donald does Donald’s thing… > > I mean sure, many of us suspect a goodly number of Trump’s support comes out of those who believe Jesus’ native language was KJV English, but still they’re supposed to believe conversion is available to all… Then again this is the guy who rererred to communion as “when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker” and nobody said jack. So I fully expect this to be given a pass as well. Actually Trump’s supporters among Republican primary voters are distinctly of the ones who are unchurched or the less faithful-the ones who are more concerned with immigration then with the directly religion-related issues of gays or abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1025 "2015-12-13T16:38:33Z")
That all may be… but there are still plenty of Southern evangelicals, distrustful of Catholics (and Mormons). Obviously Republicans can win primaries with tepid support there, but not generals, I think. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1026 "2015-12-13T18:26:02Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > That all may be… but there are still plenty of Southern evangelicals, distrustful of Catholics (and Mormons). Obviously Republicans can win primaries with tepid support there, but not generals, I think. Right - different dogwhistles for different folk. Otherwise why combine pointing out Cruz is half-Cuban with questioning his evangelical bona fides. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1027 "2015-12-13T18:39:24Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > That all may be… but there are still plenty of Southern evangelicals, distrustful of Catholics (and Mormons). Obviously Republicans can win primaries with tepid support there, but not generals, I think. Most of the committed evangelical vote (especially those who actually care enough to see Catholics and Mormons as heretics) aren’t voting for Trump in the first place and Trump is not running to win their support-which is why he barely talks abortion and gay marriage. > [@JRDelirious](#): > > Right - different dogwhistles for different folk. Otherwise why combine pointing out Cruz is half-Cuban with questioning his evangelical bona fides. Because he was joking about Cruz’s oddity. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1028 "2015-12-13T21:14:46Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > That was a wonderful thing for the Trump campaign-the Saudi prince makes Trump look like St. Francis of Assisi. Oh aye? Please elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1029 "2015-12-13T21:23:25Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Oh aye? Please elaborate. Considering the creature is a member of the royal clan of Saudi Arabia, which in turn practices the most reactionary and brutal form of State Islam where homosexuals, adulterers, apostates, and others are regularly beheaded and hundreds of thousands of South Asians work in slave labour conditions to build their ostentatious and gaudy architectural projects while these degenerate parasites live lives of sybaritic luxury-these abominations in human form who should have exterminated in the days of Washington and Robespierre much less now-yes I’d take Citizen Trump any day of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1030 "2015-12-13T21:38:36Z")
Trump isn’t Islamic, and may have no great problem with adultery or apostasy. Otherwise, that describes his context pretty well. He’s recently shown a similar enthusiasm for executions, for example. “Ostentatious and gaudy architectural projects while these degenerate parasites live lives of sybaritic luxury”… you meant to do that, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1031 "2015-12-13T22:04:21Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > the creature Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1032 "2015-12-13T22:06:42Z")
Trump: “[Hillary killed hundreds of thousands of people as Secretary of State](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/13/trump-hillary-clinton-killed-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-with-her-stupidity-video/).” ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1033 "2015-12-13T22:25:50Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Trump isn’t Islamic, and may have no great problem with adultery or apostasy. Otherwise, that describes his context pretty well. He’s recently shown a similar enthusiasm for executions, for example. Erhm no. A scion of the ruling family of an absolute theocratic monarchy and a billionaire right-wing populist politician don’t belong in the same century even. Even opponents of the death penalty should realize the difference between executing murderers (as far I know Trump hasn’t even say urged imposing the death penalty on child molesters or rapists) and executing people for blashphemy or homosexuality. > [@](#): > > “Ostentatious and gaudy architectural projects while these degenerate parasites live lives of sybaritic luxury”… you meant to do that, right? You left out the slave labour part. > [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Seriously? Yes-in any battle between absolute despotism and republicanism, the answer is clear. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1034 "2015-12-13T22:31:17Z")
I do find it amusing that suddenly its become a controversial thing to assert that on the balance that Donald Trump is a better person than a member of the Saudi royal family. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1035 "2015-12-14T00:56:10Z")
I am with you there. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1036 "2015-12-14T01:24:35Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > That was a wonderful thing for the Trump campaign-the Saudi prince makes Trump look like St. Francis of Assisi. I’ll stipulate that many of the super-rich on the Arabian peninsula are despicable people, often exploiting sex slaves, etc. But do you have charges against Alwaleed bin Talal specifically? I’d guess that just the opposite may be the case, that he indulges his libido by making money rather than abusing women. (And note that he plans to donate his huge fortune to charity, with “empowering women” one of the goals.) ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1037 "2015-12-14T01:27:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’ll stipulate that many of the super-rich on the Arabian peninsula are despicable people, often exploiting sex slaves, etc. But do you have charges against Alwaleed bin Talal specifically? I’d guess that just the opposite may be the case, that he indulges his libido by making money rather than abusing women. (And note that he plans to donate his huge fortune to charity, with “empowering women” one of the goals.) I mean he _is_ a member of Saudi royal family, which excepting possibly the SS and the NKVD comes as close as a “criminal organization” as you can get. Certainly he’s never spoken out against the root causes of the evils in his country with occasional monetary gestures of atonement to satisfy appearance’s sake for his Western plutocratic business partners. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1038 "2015-12-14T01:27:58Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I do find it amusing that suddenly its become a controversial thing to assert that on the balance that Donald Trump is a better person than a member of the Saudi royal family. Trump comes from a better country, so he hasn’t had the opportunity to act quite the same ways. I see no evidence that there is anything, anything at all, to commend in his own _person_. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1039 "2015-12-14T01:45:04Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > But of course, you can then tell the person may be a Muslim or a Jewish or a traditional Orthodox or a Coptic or a Chaldean Christian. (researching) Oh, so the Copts leave something behind these days. It pays to research! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1040 "2015-12-14T02:30:54Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I do find it amusing that suddenly its become a controversial thing to assert that on the balance that Donald Trump is a better person than a member of the Saudi royal family. Trump has yet to hold the level of power and authority over a country that the Saudi royal family has, so we do not know what he he would do with such power and authority. You cannot say that he is better. At best, you can say that he is weaker. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1041 "2015-12-14T03:35:15Z")
Supreme Court Justice Anthony Scalia, [who would be better off in a “less advanced court,”](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/study-scalia-better-off-in-less-advanced-court) was condemned for racism by moderate Presidential candidate Donald Trump: [QUOTE=Reuters] [Justice Scalia] suggested during a hearing last week that some blacks and Hispanics are not strong enough candidates to be admitted purely on academic criteria and might be better off attending “slower-track” schools where they can prosper. “I thought his remarks were very, very tough. I think they were very, very tough to the African American community actually. I don’t like what he said, no,” Trump said on CNN’s “State of the Union” program. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1042 "2015-12-14T03:44:01Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I mean he _is_ a member of Saudi royal family, which excepting possibly the SS and the NKVD comes as close as a “criminal organization” as you can get. Certainly he’s never spoken out against the root causes of the evils in his country with occasional monetary gestures of atonement to satisfy appearance’s sake for his Western plutocratic business partners. Are all of Cheney’s distant cousins guilty of war crimes if they don’t speak out against him? Heck, I have a cousin who posts right-wing idiocies on Facebook and I don’t even speak out against him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=53)