# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1143 "2015-12-16T20:24:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > … they voted for _Bush_. Well, at least they were embarrassed about having done so! Why the exit polls were so fucked up, nobody wanted to admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1144 "2015-12-16T21:13:09Z")
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1145 "2015-12-16T21:30:50Z")
[Joe Arpaio just introduced Trump at a rally where he reminded all of the attendees that both he and Trump still don’t think Obama is an American.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-arpaio-trump-obama-birther) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1146 "2015-12-16T21:33:11Z")
Which he isn’t, in their sense of the word. And I’m not referring to anything about his birth certificate. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1147 "2015-12-16T22:04:02Z")
And Trump is continuing to kowtow to Arpaio, while at the same time a judge is deciding if Arpaio’s contempt of court after admitting that he was not following the court orders for his previous race profiling, will go to a criminal phase. And **Rick Kitchen** already noted in passing both Trump and the Sheriff are birthers. Yes, just another item in the never ending enabling of racists that the Republicans want to ignore by supporting guys like Trump. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1148 "2015-12-16T22:32:54Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > A real threat wouldn’t drive people to vote for a joke candidate. Would be smarter to stop living in denial about Trump’s viability and take him seriously. Labeling him as a “joke candidate” at this stage is just not accurate. He’s not Paul Paulsen. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1149 "2015-12-16T22:35:02Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Would be smarter to stop living in denial about Trump’s viability and take him seriously. Labeling him as a “joke candidate” at this stage is just not accurate. He’s not Paul Paulsen. Pat Paulsen. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1150 "2015-12-16T22:39:52Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Pat Paulsen. Fuck, I looked it up before I posted too! But then only corrected a misspelling I’d made in his last name. Anyway, point stands. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1151 "2015-12-16T23:17:23Z")
Stands pat. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1152 "2015-12-17T01:52:15Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > If Trump had been there in Paris, he would have shot at the ISIS attackers himself. He’s just that awesome. > > [Trump: ‘If I Were There’ I Would’ve Taken Out The Paris Attackers - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-shot-paris-attackers) > > We’re lucky he’s in such superb health. When he has to throw down, his astonishing stamina will see him through the fire fight. Chuck Norris calls Trump to ask for tips. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1153 "2015-12-17T04:11:34Z")
Trump makes Chuck Norris call him “sir”. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1154 "2015-12-17T04:39:45Z")
Who is Chuck backing this time? Not Huckabee again? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1155 "2015-12-17T05:33:02Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Its not him, as such, he didn’t make the wave, he’s riding it. Somewhere roughly in the ten percent to twenty percent of America is full 'tard, knuckle walking maroons. We have met the enemy, and he is us. > > On the other hand, what better candidate to light a fire under the asses of the modestly liberal but unmotivated voter? QFT. Predictwise still has the GOP almost 40% to win the White House. I’m afraid the true chance is much greater. This is a must-win election for thoughtful Americans. _ **Winning the election must be highest priority** _; if Trump wants to help we should let him. (I don’t think he’ll be the nominee; if he is, the GOP establishment won’t back him seriously but will spend their money trying to salvage Congress. I just hope Trump’s candidacy lasts long enough to leave the GOP in tatters and on record as xenophobic.) Next fall Americans will hear about Benghazi-, Email-, and Whatever-gate morning, day, and night. Low-information voters will say “I had to pull the other lever, there was some question about her honesty.” Democrats lose because they don’t indulge in loud nasty braying like the GOP does. If Trump wants to serve Democratic interests with an “end run”, braying loudly from the opposite direction, welcome him. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1156 "2015-12-17T05:52:51Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Predictwise still has the GOP almost 40% to win the White House. I’m afraid the true chance is much greater. I think it’s more like 1%. People like to say that Americans are fond of flipping back and forth. But the composition of the electorate has changed so much: it is so much less white then it was over the time period during which they supposedly flipped it back and forth. I say “supposedly” because it has been nearly four decades since a Republican won a majority of the popular vote while a Democrat sat in the White House. Meanwhile, Obama is the first president since Eisenhower to receive 51% or more of the popular vote twice. The Democratic advantage in the Electoral College at present is just too strong. But it would be nice to get the House back, and no one was even raising that possibility until Trump’s ascendancy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1157 "2015-12-17T09:06:27Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > This is only true if he wins the general election, or (to a lesser degree) if he comes close. If he gets wiped out like Goldwater, McGovern, or Mondale, the result is just the opposite: a total repudiation that makes the American people look pretty good. Only the first of those repudiations made the American people look good. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1158 "2015-12-17T09:32:22Z")
Never meant to suggest otherwise. I said if HE gets wiped out like them, it reflects well on Americans. Not that the three examples necessarily did. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1159 "2015-12-17T10:03:34Z")
The damage has already been done. Please can you guys just cut your losses and peacefully separate into the “United States of Canada” and “Jesusland”. Just don’t let Jesusland get any of the nuclear weapons and we’ll all be sweet. > **[Jesusland map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map)** > > The Jesusland map is an Internet meme created shortly after the 2004 U.S. presidential election that satirizes the red/blue states scheme by dividing the United States and Canada into "The United States of Canada" and "Jesusland". The map implies the existence of a fundamental political divide between contiguous northern and southern regions of North America, the former including both the socially liberal Canada and the West Coast, Northeastern, and Upper Midwestern states, and suggests that t Th... ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1160 "2015-12-17T14:50:43Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Labeling him as a “joke candidate” at this stage is just not accurate. It depends on what definition you’re using. He’s not a joke candidate in the sense of being somebody who has no real possibility of winning the nomination or the election. He _is_ a joke candidate in the sense that he is a YouTube comment thread made flesh. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1161 "2015-12-17T17:28:51Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > The damage has already been done. Please can you guys just cut your losses and peacefully separate into the “United States of Canada” and “Jesusland”. Just don’t let Jesusland get any of the nuclear weapons and we’ll all be sweet. Believe me, I understand the motivation for the hyperbole, but I have to offer [this reminder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas,_2012). Yes, most of that map is red, but over 3 million people in Texas voted Democrat in 2012–more people then _live_ in Maine and New Hampshire combined. It’s not easy, being a liberal down here, so spare us a thought when you joke about secession or Jesusland. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1162 "2015-12-17T17:56:50Z")
As a recovering Texan residing in the People’s Republic of Minnesota, I feel your pain. And send you my full and unstinting support from _waaaay_ up here. If you decide to flee, just get on Highway 35 North and drive about 24 hours, there is a colony of us here. Warning! There is NO bar-b-q. Just slices of beef in what might as well be spaghetti sauce. Bless their hearts, they don’t know any better… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=59)