# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1243 "2015-12-23T07:01:09Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> 1. What Trump’s damaged brain probably meant was “shafted”.

I’ve also seen charitable speculation that perhaps he meant “shellacked.”

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1244 "2015-12-23T08:13:13Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> This is not brain surgery. He means beaten like the bitch she is, and beaten by a black man, no less. Keep in mind that at the beginning of that primary process, everyone thought HRC was a shoe-in. As they do today.

No it’s not brain surgery - and this is most likely exactly what he meant.

What is difficult to believe, and what causes total and absolute cognitive dissonance is that the most popular candidate on the Republican side would say such a thing - and then stand by the comment - even having the gall to defend it, rather than come up with some sort of semi-plausible excuse

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1245 "2015-12-23T13:24:27Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Some of this is because college graduates don’t want other people to know they like Trump:
> 
> [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-democrats-should-fear-donald-trump-popularity-20151222-story.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-democrats-should-fear-donald-trump-popularity-20151222-story.html)
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> Still I like your 538 link.
> 
> For one thing, Trump’s college educated deficit is a lot more than six percent.
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> For another, if people are ashamed to admit in public they like a demagogue, they won’t caucus for him.

I don’t personally know anyone who admits to supporting Trump, so it has all felt somewhat abstract up to this point. I was however bemused just now to see the comments on a local TV station’s news Facebook thread. They reported that a poll indicated fifty percent of Americans would be “embarrassed” if Trump became president; one-third said the same about the prospect of Hillary becoming president. Keeping in mind that this is a county that usually leans Repubican, but barely went for Obama in 2008, these are the first screen’s worth of comments, unedited except for my deleting people’s last names. But they did use their full names! Blows my mind:

> [@](#):
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> Deb No, I’m more embarrassed by our current President and the state of our country under his control.  
> Like · Reply · 57 · 13 hrs  
> Randy D. Id be embarrassed if Hillary Clinton were our elected Leader.  
> Like · Reply · 39 · 13 hrs  
> Chrissy Embarrassment? I believe the biggest embarrassment in history is living in the white house as we speak. I would be proud to have donald trump as president. He already has my vote and has for months.  
> Like · Reply · 20 · 13 hrs  
> Mitch Trump is an embarrassment? I guess everyone has really been asleep the last 7 years. Smh.  
> Like · Reply · 22 · 13 hrs  
> Jim I’d be more embarrassed to think my fellow Americans would be uninformed enough to vote for Hillary Clinton or Barry Sanders, though I guess I can see their appeal by offering “free” stuff for votes. My problem is I’m a white male with a job so I don’t…See More  
> Like · Reply · 7 · 12 hrs · Edited  
> Joseph Half of American Voters? When did they survey the nation?  
> Like · Reply · 12 · 13 hrs  
> Nick Most of the people that vote are college kids who don’t do anything all day long or welfare rats. Working class people who like trump don’t do Facebook polls or fox polls… Or CNN bias polls. They’re too busy working supporting our lovely welfare rats. Plus most of the people that vote on that dumb crap anyways don’t vote at all. Trump!  
> Like · Reply · 4 · 10 hrs  
> Bob I don’t see Trump as a good choice for President…but I do see him as infinitely better than Hillary or Obama or Bernie.  
> Let’s elect a man who is real, who is consistent, who has stood against the tides of political cowardice, cronyism, and status quo… Ted Cruz.  
> Like · Reply · 1 · 9 hrs  
> Brandon Trump is for Our 2nd amendment rights and a stronger Border!! To me that’s that little warm fuzzy feeling you get when you know our children and our children’s children are going to be safe from that pieceful religion that most everyone is talking about…Benghazi is a disgrace and an embarrassment think about that candidate. lie after lie…  
> Like · Reply · 1 · 12 hrs  
> Richard Sure he says what he thinks…but his answers are what we want…so heck no…go for it! Its better than listening to “we will confiscate your weapons…all of them” talk…bring it on Donald!  
> Like · Reply · 10 · 13 hrs  
> Lindy Considering what we have now…uh no. I’d be even more embarrassed by a President Hillary.  
> Like · Reply · 7 · 12 hrs  
> Mike ‘Embarrassed’ isn’t the right word. That denotes butt hurt of your lil’ feelings. Try ‘disgusted’ or ‘ashamed’. Fits with the current administration & it will also fit for Trump, Hitlery, or Bernie. They are all a joke. Who could take any of them seriously? Seriously. You are being played.  
> Like · Reply · 12 hrs · Edited  
> Rebecca Trump, Clinton, and Obama are all pretty embarrassing to me right now! We no longer have leading citizens, potential statesmen, who care enough to take some instruction on how to speak to the public, in good taste. This is pretty ridiculous!  
> Like · Reply · 12 hrs  
> Todd Trump all the way !!!  
> Like · Reply · 9 · 13 hrs  
> Eldon I am more embarrassed with Oboma or Hillary occupying. Anyone voting the incompetent crooked Hillary scares me more reamber Bengazie 4 died and Hillary lied  
> Like · Reply · 9 · 13 hrs  
> Kevin No. I’m embarrassed of this “news” station. K\*\*\* is a very small part of this nations problem. Trump is what the nation needs to fix it.  
> Like · Reply · 8 · 12 hrs  
> Harley I’m embarrassed by the one we have now.  
> Like · Reply · 7 · 13 hrs  
> Tim Trump is what america need for a change  
> Like · Reply · 7 · 13 hrs  
> Jody And nobody is ebarrassed of the president we have now?  
> Like · Reply · 7 · 13 hrs  
> Bruce No, I’m embarrassed by the current president and most of the Congress.  
> Like · Reply · 5 · 12 hrs  
> Donna I would be proud if Trump was our leader  
> Like · Reply · 8 · 13 hrs  
> Glee Why in the world would a poll ask such stupid questions?  
> Like · Reply · 5 · 13 hrs  
> Claire I don’t like the man but I’m thinking that a smart mouthed, strong willed egomaniac might fix America after Obama has almost killed everything which symbolizes our great nation .  
> Like · Reply · 6 · 13 hrs  
> Jayson I’d be embarrassed if Clinton or socialist Sanders were to be elected.  
> Like · Reply · 4 · 12 hrs  
> Michelle Go Trump!!! I’m proud to vote for him. He’s exactly what we need. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸#Trump2016MakeAmericaGreatAgain  
> Like · Reply · 5 · 12 hrs

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1246 "2015-12-23T14:49:12Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> What is difficult to believe, and what causes total and absolute cognitive dissonance is that the most popular candidate on the Republican side would say such a thing - and then stand by the comment - even having the gall to defend it, rather than come up with some sort of semi-plausible excuse

Perhaps Trump represents the vanguard of a new, post-PC epoch. I mean, we did the whole post-racial thing already, so why not post-PC?

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1247 "2015-12-23T14:52:09Z")

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Here’s some essential reading for anyone wanting to understand the rise of Trump, and our current political moment more broadly:

> **[The Great Republican Revolt](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/01/the-great-republican-revolt/419118/)**
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> Will the GOP as we know it survive 2016?

Long, but a real tour de force IMO.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1248 "2015-12-23T14:52:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I mean, we did the whole post-racial thing already, so why not post-PC?

“Look, we finally elected a president who uses the n-word! [del]Racism[/del] political correctness is over!”

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1249 "2015-12-23T14:56:35Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Perhaps Trump represents the vanguard of a new, post-PC epoch. I mean, we did the whole post-racial thing already, so why not post-PC?

But his constituency is really not post-PC, they only say that for issues they support. What is the “War on Christmas” but a argument about what is the politically correct way to greet someone during the holidays?

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1250 "2015-12-23T14:56:39Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> My grandpa, who spoke Yiddish fluently, was furious when I used the word “schlong” in front of my mom.
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> 1. It means “Penis”, so “schlonged” makes no sense.
> 2. It’s an incredibly offensive word (per my grandpa, no other cite). It’s not on the relatively tame level as “dick” or “cock”, but more on the order of “cunt”.
> 3. What Trump’s damaged brain probably meant was “shafted”.

I don’t speak Yiddish, so I’ll defer to your grandpa on the offensiveness of the term. I took it as something like “hosed” or “boned”, something I wouldn’t say in front of my grandparents or the CEO of my company, but not terribly offensive.

I don’t particularly care that he used the term. I find it a little unbecoming of a Presidential candidate (or an NPR reporter, for that matter), but then every single thing Trump says is unbecoming of a Presidential candidate. What bothers me more is that when he was called on it, he acted like it wasn’t offensive and everyone was just being a big mean hypocrite for saying it was. If he had said, “Yeah, it’s a dirty word. Sometimes I like to use salty language,” I’d probably shrug it off. But instead, he’s just behaving like a classic thin-skinned bully: acting like a jerk, then pretending he’s the one being treated unfairly when people point out that he’s a jerk. Yeah, let’s give that guy the world’s greatest military to play around with.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1251 "2015-12-23T16:09:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> This is not brain surgery. He means beaten like the bitch she is, and beaten by a black man, no less. Keep in mind that at the beginning of that primary process, everyone thought HRC was a shoe-in. As they do today.

So, it was a racial thing? First I’ve heard that.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1252 "2015-12-23T16:20:25Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I don’t speak Yiddish, so I’ll defer to your grandpa on the offensiveness of the term. I took it as something like “hosed” or “boned”, something I wouldn’t say in front of my grandparents or the CEO of my company, but not terribly offensive.

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard it in a Mel Brooks movie, so maybe it’s a generational thing.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1253 "2015-12-23T16:25:18Z")

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_Young Frankenstein._ But not \*schlong.  
\*

> [@](#):
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> Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: For the experiment to be a success, all of the body parts must be enlarged.
> 
> Inga: In other vords: his veins, his feet, his hands, his organs vould all have to be increased in size.
> 
> Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Exactly.
> 
> Inga: He vould have an enormous schwanzstucker.
> 
> Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: That goes without saying.
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> Inga: Voof.
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> Igor: He’s going to be very popular.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1254 "2015-12-23T16:26:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I’m pretty sure I’ve heard it in a Mel Brooks movie, so maybe it’s a generational thing.

Because if it is in a Mel Brooks movie it couldn’t be vulgar.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1255 "2015-12-23T16:28:01Z")

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By God better be, or I want my money back!

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1256 "2015-12-23T20:58:52Z")

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Quickly reviewing:

> [@adaher](#):
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> I think I already predicted that Hillary Clinton will not be President, but if I haven’t, let me say it now: Hillary Clinton will not be President. I don’t think Trump will be either.
> 
> IMO, the next President will be from this group:
> 
> Joe Biden  
> Bernie Sanders  
> Martin O’Malley  
> Ben Carson  
> John Kasich  
> Chris Christie  
> Marco Rubio

Any deletions you’d like to make from that list now? Or maybe an addition?

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1257 "2015-12-23T21:40:40Z")

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I really would like an explanation as to why Trump thinks that somebody going to a bathroom is disgusting.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1258 "2015-12-23T21:50:56Z")

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Because he has no penis or asshole. He’s like a Ken doll down there.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1259 "2015-12-23T21:56:09Z")

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Donald Trump only takes the biggest, most luxurious shits anyone’s ever seen. We’re talkin’ 14-karat here. The resale value is _huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!_

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1260 "2015-12-23T22:27:45Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Because if it is in a Mel Brooks movie it couldn’t be vulgar.

Vulgar, yes, but not on a par with “cunt” as suggested above.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1261 "2015-12-24T01:41:36Z")

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He’s spouted these vulgarities and then insisted he had no idea there could be a vulgar interpretation too many times to be believable. Not that I believed him even the first time.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1262 "2015-12-24T03:06:34Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> He’s spouted these vulgarities and then insisted he had no idea there could be a vulgar interpretation too many times to be believable. Not that I believed him even the first time.

Yep, he sure has a lot of shit coming out of all of his whatevers.

And to top it off, he’s so PC! You can’t imply that people are booing him, because he insists it’s cheering. You can’t imply that he’s not the best of the best, or he gets all offended and huffy and screeches at you. His tantrums get dragged all over Twitter, and his followers get offended right along with him, because it’s impossible for Their Hero to be wrong.

There’s a difference between _going on the offensive_ and _taking offense_, and the modern GOP really only has the latter. That’s all they’re capable of: Taking offense at things, especially if they’re true.

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