# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1805 "2016-02-04T15:44:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Can’t think of a better rebuttal to that last crack than what Limbaugh said about two Hispanics and a black guy drawing 60% of the Republican vote in Iowa while two bedraggled old white people are the Democrats’ standard bearers. > > As for however many fewer Republican women are holding office these days than before, any number of perfectly innocent reasons could be the explanation, foremost of which is the possibility that more Republican women are simply not as interested in running for office these days. Then again maybe they don’t want to be lampooned on SNL or accused of being witches by a liberal news and entertainment media offended by the very idea of Republican women running for office. > > I’m afraid that unless you have proof that some sort of widespread effort has been made by the party’s “old white guys” to keep them out of the running, I’m afraid I’m going to have wholeheartedly reject your entire premise. > > As far as there being more women holding office as Democrats, that isn’t the point. The point is that Republicans are wholeheartedly accepting and supportive of both women and people of color as long as they hold conservative values. In other words, when it comes to sex or color or even young white guys (:D), ideology is the determinant quality as to Republican acceptance and/or the ability to succeed in office, not race or sex. I’m always amazed at the racist and misoginistic things that come out republicans mouth, IRL and on TV, and then turn around and try to blame them on innocent reasons. The majority of your above post is imaginary bunk. Remember the past republican fashion? Openly worn at a convention: [http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-78081](http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-78081) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1806 "2016-02-04T16:19:37Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > …I was hip to the liberal nature of the news media going as far back as Richard Nixon and couldn’t believe the way the liberal press hounded him for almost the entirety of his career until they finally managed to run him out of office. How do you ever expect anyone to take you seriously when you say things like this? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1807 "2016-02-04T17:45:38Z")
Trump’s poll numbers are down since Iowa: [Donald Trump's poll numbers took a nosedive in the first national survey after Iowa](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/02/04/donald-trumps-poll-numbers-took-a-nosedive-in-the-first-nationa/21307821/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1709299937) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1808 "2016-02-04T18:52:38Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Trump’s poll numbers are down since Iowa: [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/02/04/donald-trumps-poll-numbers-took-a-nosedive-in-the-first-nationa/21307821/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1709299937) [HuffPost Pollster](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster) average shows a slight drop, but not to the extent in the AOL article. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1809 "2016-02-04T22:12:38Z")
If you go to [www.loser.com](http://www.loser.com) it redirects to Donald Trump’s Wikipedia page. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1810 "2016-02-04T22:31:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Most of you are illustrating the very thing I’m talking about - it’s not the candidates’ color that’s the issue, it’s their politics. Here you are feverishly trying to claim a guy named Cruz isn’t really brown because he doesn’t speak Spanish, etc., etc., despite the fact that his features plop him squarely in the middle of the group Republicans are supposed to hate - brown people. . . . You’ve never actually seen Cruz’ features, have you? He’s whiter than Taylor Swift. He’s a Southern Baptist. The only thing Latino about him is his name. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1811 "2016-02-04T22:57:05Z")
So white, he gets sunburn if the refrigerator door is open too long. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1812 "2016-02-05T00:45:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Then again maybe they don’t want to be lampooned on SNL or accused of being witches by a liberal news and entertainment media offended by the very idea of Republican women running for office. Interesting. A defense of Republican women via an accusation of cowardice. Nothing SNL has run, (which includes shots at Clinton, Pelosi, and many others going all the way back to Ferraro), has come close to the sort of crude, vituperative comments that Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Barnes, and others routinely hurl at Democratic women–in daily news and opinion shows rather that tucked away on weekly humor show that only runs at the end of the day. If Republican women fear joining Democratic women in the crosshairs of SNL, perhaps they really are not strong enough to be leaders in this nation. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1813 "2016-02-05T01:01:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Then again maybe they don’t want to be lampooned on SNL or accused of being witches . . . [“I’m not a witch!”](http://crooksandliars.com/heather/snl-has-bit-fun-odonnell-i-am-not-witch-ad) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1814 "2016-02-05T01:24:21Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Trump’s poll numbers are down since Iowa: [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/02/04/donald-trumps-poll-numbers-took-a-nosedive-in-the-first-nationa/21307821/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1709299937) Huh. I wonder how Cruz managed to fix that article. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1815 "2016-02-05T01:51:41Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I don’t understand why Trump is railing against the Iowa result. Surely he should be thanking them for giving him a platform on which to build for New Hampshire? Congratulations on never having had to work closely with or for his kind of toxic leader. It’s about what I expected from him given…painfully…some different experiences. While there’s plenty of more in depth looks at toxic leadership let’s just look at a couple of the basic traits from [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_leader#Basic_traits): > [@](#): > > _individual points snipped out of larger list at the link_ > An overcompetitive attitude to other employees. > A condescending/glib attitude. > **They are shallow and lack self-confidence. Toxic leaders are not confident with themselves and become aggressive to cope.** > Physical and/or psychological bullying. > Discriminatory attitudes (sexism, etc.). > Causes workplace division instead of harmony. > Arrogant > Irritable Sound like any candidate we know? My bolding added for the one point that seems to underlay his reaction to Iowa. Without quite a lot of reflection and self development I seriously doubt he’s capable of pursuing your strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1816 "2016-02-05T02:26:54Z")
Considering that the winner of the Republican Iowa caucuses the last 3 times have not won the overall nomination, you’d think Trump would want to thank Cruz for this. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1817 "2016-02-05T04:42:41Z")
Cruz is not Santorum or Huckabee, he’s a much stronger candidate money and organization wise, plus Trump was supposed to win Iowa and didn’t. The loss hurt him. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1818 "2016-02-05T06:24:35Z")
Cruz did, in fact, backstab Carson by (trying? succeeding?) in tricking his supporters with fake news of Carson’s imminent withdrawal. (She was only a banker’s daughter, but there was a _substantial_ penalty for early withdrawal! But I digress…) Naturally, we of the leftish lean view this sordid affair with shock, horror and dismay. But we ain’t the immediate problem for the Cruzer. He needs the Biblethumpers, needs 'em bad, and needs 'em all. And some of those thumpers like Carson. Some of them, if not most of them, are likely to a bit peevish about this. So, even if he tried and failed, a substantial part of his essential base are not belong to him. And how to we find out how many Carson delegates went over to Cruz because they were hoodwinked? If there is evidence that they did in sufficient numbers to get Cruz over on Trump, then Trump has a case, maybe we _was_ robbed! Does anything happen then? He may get away with it, weirder things have happened, but he done fucked up bigtime and downtown. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1819 "2016-02-05T20:55:54Z")
[Prime examples of how Trump would be disastrous for America.](http://www.salon.com/2016/02/05/donald_trumps_iran_idiocy_the_interview_that_should_have_ended_his_candidacy_once_and_for_all/) ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1820 "2016-02-06T03:42:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Prime examples of how Trump would be disastrous for America.](http://www.salon.com/2016/02/05/donald_trumps_iran_idiocy_the_interview_that_should_have_ended_his_candidacy_once_and_for_all/) I’m curious how he made his money when he is dumb af. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1821 "2016-02-06T04:19:02Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > I’m curious how he made his money when he is dumb af. [By putting his name on ugly buildings.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajqWJEVKMLc) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1822 "2016-02-06T05:01:47Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > You can spin it any way you like, and it may even be true that there are fewer Republican women in Congress because fewer Republican women choose to run – perhaps because they’re all at home having babies and cooking dinner and meekly obeying their husbands the way God intended. > > And even if they don’t believe these things, perhaps they don’t see a lot of point in running on a Republican ticket because so many Republicans do. The relative absence of women and minorities tells a story, and you may debate what that story is, but it ain’t likely to be a story of peer-level welcome. The abstraction of liberty seems to be weak compared to some food stamps. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1823 "2016-02-06T05:56:13Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > I’m curious how he made his money when he is dumb af. Being born stupendously rich and having a dad in the same business, and having access to the education, connections, and clout helps. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/1824 "2016-02-06T06:06:32Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > . . . You’ve never actually seen Cruz’ features, have you? > > He’s whiter than Taylor Swift. He’s a Southern Baptist. The only thing Latino about him is his name. Being Latino isn’t like being black, it’s not based on skin color. Lots of Hispanics/Latinos are Southern Baptists, there are 2100 Spanish-language congregations in the SBC. Whether Cruz is Hispanic or not is more of a self-identification call on his part, I don’t know enough about his personal life to know much about his cultural affiliations with his Hispanic heritage. I know he can’t speak Spanish, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=92)