# Trump's Shutdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577 "2019-01-11T06:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Modesty\_Blaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Modesty\_Blaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modesty_Blaise)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/521 "2019-01-27T14:51:02Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Let me see if I get this right - it’s from someone else. > Trump shits on the carpet. > Trump demands that someone else clean it up > Trump claims it wasn’t his > Trump smears it everywhere with his hands > Trump declares he cleaned it all up, better than anyone else could > Trump says it was Hillary’s turd. > The Base screams “Lock her up” Spot on. I’d add only some reference to Obama never having turds as wonderful as his. I remember, during the debates in 2016 that he got praise for the worst performances. I said then that everyone was giving him applause for the accomplishment of managing to NOT shit on the carpet. It infuriated me. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/522 "2019-01-27T19:06:43Z")
[Sigh…](https://twitter.com/AP/status/1089549632131215360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1089549632131215360&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231089549632131215360) > [@Associated Press](#): > > President Donald Trump is prepared for another government shutdown if Congress won’t work with him to secure the southern border, acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said. Normal people who get burned don’t react by immediately sticking their hand into the fire again. Normal people aren’t Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/523 "2019-01-27T19:40:26Z")
I just came in to post [that AP story](https://apnews.com/ddd3c7ee7cdf45f9bd28103eb816c7c4), **Der Trihs**. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump is prepared to shut down the government again or declare a national emergency if Congress won’t work with him to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, the White House said Sunday. > > The president’s standoff with Democrats on Capitol Hill is far from over and the clock is ticking — the spending bill Trump signed on Friday funds the government agencies that had been shut down only until Feb. 15. > > White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney told CBS’ “Face the Nation” that Trump’s goal is was to work with Congress. > > “What he wants to do is fix this the way that things are supposed to get fixed with our government which is through legislation,” Mulvaney said. > > Mulvaney said the president didn’t want another shutdown, but he would do it if necessary. > > “Keep in mind he’s willing to do whatever it takes to secure the border,” he said. I’m thinking that Trump needs someone to correct his definition of “necessary”, amongst other things. ETA: I did ask that the thread title be changed to reflect the fact that this may not be the only shutdown that Trump causes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/524 "2019-01-28T07:20:46Z")
[I think it would be folly to bet against another shutdown](https://apnews.com/f43fda8f1994421aa3d55122b204c874): > [@](#): > > As hundreds of thousands of furloughed federal workers prepared to return to work, Trump told The Wall Street Journal that he doesn’t think the negotiators will strike a deal that he’d accept. He pledged to build a wall anyway using his executive powers to declare a national emergency if necessary. > > “I personally think it’s less than 50-50, but you have a lot of very good people on that board,” Trump said in an interview Sunday with the newspaper. > > The president was referring to a bipartisan committee of House and Senate lawmakers that will consider border spending as part of the legislative process. ---
**Author:** ![Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/525 "2019-01-28T08:44:47Z")
Mulvaney said the president didn’t want another shutdown, but he would do it if necessary. Right. So the cunning plan is to spend a couple of weeks insisting that the president will shut down the government, then the president will shut down the government, then the president will blame the Democrats for the shutdown? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/526 "2019-01-28T10:11:13Z")
There is little doubt Trump is dumb enough to declare a national emergency next month. What’s in question is if the Senate is dumb enough to let him get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/527 "2019-01-28T10:15:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > There is little doubt Trump is dumb enough to declare a national emergency next month. What’s in question is if the Senate is dumb enough to let him get away with it. Is that a rhetorical question? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/528 "2019-01-28T10:23:12Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Is that a rhetorical question? One born of two years’ abject disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![JmeTN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@JmeTN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JmeTN)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/529 "2019-01-28T12:17:25Z")
It is infuriating that the shutdown, to Trump, was = to grounding the country for defying him (even his supporters) & now letting everyone off on probation – better not defy him again or what, he’ll ground the country till his youngest is 30? His complete lack of self-evaluation & of reality is horrifying. ok rant over … for now ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/530 "2019-01-28T17:00:26Z")
Now Ann Coulter is [turning on Newt Gingrich](https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1089906651078017024) with some pretty sharp barbs. “The Constitution doesn’t just give free speech to disgraced politicians…” Ouch, Ann! That was totally called-for! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/531 "2019-01-28T17:45:54Z")
[The IRS is so hobbled from the backlog of work, it will take a year to catch up.](https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1089936174968385537) I mean, if there is any year in which taxes are going to be cheated on… ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/532 "2019-01-28T17:56:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Now Ann Coulter is [turning on Newt Gingrich](https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1089906651078017024) with some pretty sharp barbs. > > “The Constitution doesn’t just give free speech to disgraced politicians…” > > Ouch, Ann! That was totally called-for! Also from Ann: RIDDLE OF THE DAY: How do you break Newt Gingrich’s nose? (ANSWER: Kick Donald Trump in the ass.) > This is getting really good. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/533 "2019-01-28T18:02:04Z")
If I were a better person, I wouldn’t enjoy this so much. Ah, well. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/534 "2019-01-28T18:04:48Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Also from Ann: > > RIDDLE OF THE DAY: How do you break Newt Gingrich’s nose? (ANSWER: Kick Donald Trump in the ass.) I haven’t heard that one since eighth grade. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/535 "2019-01-28T18:33:19Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Also from Ann: > > RIDDLE OF THE DAY: How do you break Newt Gingrich’s nose? (ANSWER: Kick Donald Trump in the ass. We may never know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but we can get at least a rough count of how many Republican politicians can get their noses up Donald Trump’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/536 "2019-01-28T18:53:04Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Now Ann Coulter is [turning on Newt Gingrich](https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1089906651078017024) with some pretty sharp barbs. > > “The Constitution doesn’t just give free speech to disgraced politicians…” > > Ouch, Ann! That was totally called-for! To add a little background…[Ann Coulter Rages At ‘Disgraced Politician’ Gingrich After He Tells Trump To Ignore Her - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ann-coulter-newt-gingrich-feud-fantasyland-trump-border-wall) It started when Gingrich appeared on Fox and Friends and said: > [@](#): > > “He should not pay any attention to Ann Counter… Ann Coulter’s never run for office. She doesn’t know anything about how you put a majority together. She’s off here on some fantasyland where she gets to be noisy, which helps her sell books.” Which led to the above (and in my link) riposte by Dear Ann. It’s almost as hilarious where Newt talks about “putting a majority together”, especially with a Democratic House, like he was known as the “Great Compromiser” when he was in office. As for now…[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBYjZTdrJlA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBYjZTdrJlA) ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/537 "2019-01-28T19:25:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If I were a better person, I wouldn’t enjoy this so much. Ah, well. I’m a terrible person, too. I want both parties to land brutally vicious haymakers on the other. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/538 "2019-01-28T19:53:35Z")
Another vote for Shutdown V2 being destructive to the country and terrible for the GOP’S electoral prospects. If would be as if Trump invited Pelosi over to the oval office to club him in the nuts with a lead pipe on live TV while Pence looked on lovingly and applauded. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/539 "2019-01-28T19:56:24Z")
Pence does everything Trump does (remember the water bottle incident?). He’d invite “Nancy” to take a turn on him next. I’d watch. So would all of us. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/540 "2019-01-28T19:59:05Z")
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