# Trump's Shutdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577 "2019-01-11T06:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/561 "2019-02-01T08:36:12Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > That second link affirmed something I had read earlier: that under a national emergency, the President can ‘redirect’ DOD construction funds that have not already been earmarked for specific projects. > > IOW, he could rob a military account to build his precious wall. I wonder how that would play out with the base? Like his base ACTUALLY cares about the troops? ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/562 "2019-02-01T10:07:34Z")
I wish a Democrat would actually come out and say, “This isn’t about the wall. This is about whether we will let our country be led by fucking idiots.” ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/563 "2019-02-01T10:09:49Z")
> [@JB99](#): > > I wish a Democrat would actually come out and say, “This isn’t about the wall. This is about whether we will let our country be led by fucking idiots.” I don’t think that’s good PR, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/564 "2019-02-01T13:18:48Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I don’t think that’s good PR, honestly. Especially because Putin is no idiot. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/565 "2019-02-01T13:53:02Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I don’t think that’s good PR, honestly. Right - it isn’t wise to offend over sixty million voters so casually. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/566 "2019-02-01T13:54:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Right - it isn’t wise to offend over sixty million voters so casually. My issue is that it reframes the issue from “We oppose this policy because it’s terrible policy” and makes it sound more like “We oppose this policy because we hate Trump”. And regardless of how justified it is to hate Trump, that’s still not a good look to have, especially when there are much better reasons to oppose the policy than animosity towards Il Douche. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/567 "2019-02-01T15:11:16Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > My issue is that it reframes the issue from “We oppose this policy because it’s terrible policy” and makes it sound more like “We oppose this policy because we hate Trump”. And regardless of how justified it is to hate Trump, that’s still not a good look to have, especially when there are much better reasons to oppose the policy than animosity towards Il Douche. I agree. Thump wants this to be a playground brawl. The Dems have to keep on being the adults. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/568 "2019-02-02T00:33:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I agree. Thump wants this to be a playground brawl. The Dems have to keep on being the adults. Madame Speaker has this. Just let her work. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/569 "2019-02-02T01:13:37Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Madame Speaker has this. Just let her work. Roger that! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/570 "2019-02-02T16:49:08Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Madame Speaker has this. Just let her work. I’m more interested in what **Madam** Speaker Nancy Pelosi (or as I call her “ **Madam** Speaker Nancy Pelosi”) has to say than the spokesperson for a brothel. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/571 "2019-02-02T18:27:59Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’m more interested in what **Madam** Speaker Nancy Pelosi (or as I call her “ **Madam** Speaker Nancy Pelosi”) has to say than the spokesperson for a brothel. Oh please. That nitpick is so microscopic I can barely see it. Madame is French-ish, but hardly incorrect. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/572 "2019-02-02T18:48:34Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’m more interested in what **Madam** Speaker Nancy Pelosi (or as I call her “ **Madam** Speaker Nancy Pelosi”) has to say than the spokesperson for a brothel. I think **Zakalwe** was making fun of Trump making the same mistake - and not in a tweet but an actual [letter](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/letter-president-donald-j-trump-speaker-house-representatives-nancy-pelosi). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/573 "2019-02-02T18:56:16Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > I think **Zakalwe** was making fun of Trump making the same mistake - and not in a tweet but an actual [letter](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/letter-president-donald-j-trump-speaker-house-representatives-nancy-pelosi). Okay. I’ll buy that. Something so subtle should have had at least a footnote. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/574 "2019-02-02T19:32:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh please. That nitpick is so microscopic I can barely see it. Madame is French-ish, but hardly incorrect. :rolleyes: Were it not for Trump having made the same mistake on official communications, then I would not have said anything at all. Was more poking fun at the doofus in chief than the poster. though it is entirely possible (probable even, now that I look at it again) that Zalwake made the “mistake” on purpose as a poke at the id given birth through a rectum. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/575 "2019-02-02T20:28:52Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The intel and military reps did their best in their recent testimony to Congress to eliminate the “national emergency” argument about the US southern border. > > If Trump tries to declare a national emergency, it gets challenged in the courts, and Exhibit A for the plaintiffs is the transcript of the testimony, that there’s no real pressing emergency, that the military isn’t carrying out a military mission, etc. > > Exhibit B, to challenge the President’s credibility, is a copy of _Sicario: The Day of the Soldado_. 😛 And there is Exhibit C, [this clip from Machete Kills](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkyJIcvgiJM). They will just drive under the wall, with the help of literal villains! ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/576 "2019-02-02T21:23:41Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Were it not for Trump having made the same mistake on official communications, then I would not have said anything at all. Was more poking fun at the doofus in chief than the poster. I confess that if I were POTUS, I might have made the same mistake. Of course, I would have competent staff and expect that they would have corrected it before it went out, but that’s just me. Of course, since Trump didn’t likely actually dictate the letter (just the intent), it was likely a staff error. Or passive-aggressive dickery by his staff (tee-hee, we just called her a pimp!). ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/577 "2019-02-03T00:18:39Z")
You add an ‘e’ as a joke and you get a half-dozen posts. Dear lord, how I love this place. Many thanks to ThelmaLou for the initial defense, to k9bfriender for the belated recognition of the dig, and to Folacin for calling out just how damn ridiculous it is that the fucking Office of the POTUS made it in an official communication. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/578 "2019-02-03T00:21:48Z")
> [@TheMysteryWriter](#): > > Oligarchs are the best garchs. I like that. But in view of the mission of this message board, it’s worth noting that the etymology of “oligarch” actually breaks down into (from the Greek) “olig” (few) and “arch” (leader). Lots of other “archs,” per Wiktionary: [ul] [li]acritarch[/li][li]anarch[/li][li]coloniarch[/li][li]diarch[/li][li]enomotarch[/li][li]exilarch[/li][li]heptarch[/li][li]heresiarch[/li][li]hierarch[/li][li]matriarch[/li][li]monarch[/li][li]myriarch[/li][li]myriarch[/li][li]mysteriarch[/li][li]navarch[/li][li]oligarch[/li][li]omniarch[/li][li]patriarch[/li][li]triarch[/li][li]xystarch[/li][/ul] [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English\_words\_suffixed\_with\_-arch](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_words_suffixed_with_-arch) Clearly, the one to be is “Omniarch.” “Acritarch,”\* not so much. \*Any small, non-acid-soluble (i.e. non-carbonate, non-siliceous) organic fossil that cannot be classified. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/579 "2019-02-03T01:29:43Z")
Slow news day… ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/580 "2019-02-03T13:29:13Z")
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