# Trump's Shutdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577 "2019-01-11T06:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/41 "2019-01-11T19:17:11Z")
I just sent a message to Sen. Warner, reminding him that revenue from my agency enabled the Clinton administration to balance the budget. We’re too important to furlough or close. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/42 "2019-01-11T19:33:04Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > There would be a brief disturbance, but the private sector is capable of keeping planes safe in the air. They already do 99.9% of that job as designers, manufacturers and maintenance providers. Ah, the wonderful world of Libertaria where people magically spring up and do all what governments elsewhere do for a fraction of the cost. There are good reasons why no libertarian governments have ever existed. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/43 "2019-01-11T19:51:37Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Ah, the wonderful world of Libertaria where people magically spring up and do all what governments elsewhere do for a fraction of the cost. There are good reasons why no libertarian governments have ever existed. As a former Libertarian raised by Libertarians and sent to a Libertarian college where I pledged a Libertarian Fraternity full of, you guessed it, Libertarians… A Libertarian government would _never_ work. Seriously, the president of my college envisioned a utopia where someone breaks into your house and you have a choice of private sector police forces to call. “I think I’ll call Citizen-Guard™, they have a special this week…and I have a coupon!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/44 "2019-01-11T19:57:43Z")
> [@digs](#): > > As a former Libertarian raised by Libertarians and sent to a Libertarian college where I pledged a Libertarian Fraternity full of, you guessed it, Libertarians… > > A Libertarian government would _never_ work. > > Seriously, the president of my college envisioned a utopia where someone breaks into your house and you have a choice of private sector police forces to call. > > “I think I’ll call Citizen-Guard™, they have a special this week…and I have a coupon!” “Thank you for calling Citizen-Guard™. Your phone call is very important to us. All of our operators are busy helping other customers” _distorted hold music_ ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/45 "2019-01-11T20:10:40Z")
[The Office of Management & Budget, a White House entity, is preparing for a shutdown which lasts to the end of February.](https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1083813523837370368) ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/46 "2019-01-11T20:11:38Z")
“Hand over the hostage, scum!” “No, you drop the gun, cop!” “What’s it worth to you?” ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_Ducky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrs_ducky/32/6227_2.png) [@Mrs\_Ducky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_Ducky)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/47 "2019-01-11T20:41:27Z")
I wonder if this will affect the subsidies for the free cell phone service that people on government assistance are able to get. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/48 "2019-01-11T20:53:54Z")
The Latest: Trump not ready to declare emergency over wall [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-latest-trump-not-ready-to-declare-emergency-over-wall/ar-BBS7H5J?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-latest-trump-not-ready-to-declare-emergency-over-wall/ar-BBS7H5J?li=BBnb7Kz) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump says it would be easy for him just to declare a national emergency and find federal money to build a barrier along the southern border, but he’s not going to be so quick to do that because he thinks lawmakers can do it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/49 "2019-01-11T20:55:17Z")
Well, yeah, that would end the shutdown and stop hurting people. If he’s not hurting people, then how is he showing his base how big a man he is? ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/50 "2019-01-11T21:00:54Z")
> [@Mrs\_Ducky](#): > > I wonder if this will affect the subsidies for the free cell phone service that people on government assistance are able to get. [This page](https://www.lifelinelaw.com/2013/09/30/lifeline-funding-will-continue-but-fcc-operations-impacted-by-government-shutdown/) says the Lifeline program funding will continue. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/51 "2019-01-11T21:01:56Z")
The longer he waits to declare an emergency, the less it looks like an emergency. Then again, he’s already waited 2 years… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/52 "2019-01-11T21:04:36Z")
Is the FCC standards enforcement arm still running (either funded or essential)? ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_Ducky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrs_ducky/32/6227_2.png) [@Mrs\_Ducky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_Ducky)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/53 "2019-01-11T21:17:17Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > [This page](https://www.lifelinelaw.com/2013/09/30/lifeline-funding-will-continue-but-fcc-operations-impacted-by-government-shutdown/) says the Lifeline program funding will continue. The link you provided was from the shutdown in 2013. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/54 "2019-01-12T02:40:12Z")
Now the unpaid Secret Service can now sit in their Uber’s at 3 in the morning reading how the man they can die for, the man holding their paychecks, is being investigated by the FBI for being a Russian agent _as President_. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/55 "2019-01-12T02:52:41Z")
> [@Mrs\_Ducky](#): > > The link you provided was from the shutdown in 2013. It does explain that the Lifeline service isn’t a federal agency so surely it would still apply. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/56 "2019-01-12T03:01:32Z")
This shutdown is part of the treason. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/57 "2019-01-12T03:10:24Z")
Yep. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/58 "2019-01-12T04:19:52Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > I just sent a message to Sen. Warner, reminding him that revenue from my agency enabled the Clinton administration to balance the budget. We’re too important to furlough or close. You’re preaching to the choir. It’s the oligarch party that’s keeping the government shuttered, and there’s no incentive for them to listen to you - sorry. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/59 "2019-01-12T04:22:54Z")
I’m telling you all. There is no incentive for him to deal. He wants to inflict pain, because his base likes watching people writhe. Stop with this “let’s come together crap.” Fuck that. Get out in the street. LEGALLY OF COURSE!!! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/60 "2019-01-12T04:32:34Z")
The leopards’re going to eat face so much, they’re going to be so sick and tired of eating face. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577.md?page=4)