# Trump's Shutdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577 "2019-01-11T06:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/581 "2019-02-03T13:47:15Z")
[quote=“Sherrerd, post:578, topic:827577”] [li]myriarch[/li] [li]myriarch[/li][/QUOTE] You said myriarch twice. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/582 "2019-02-03T14:00:36Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > You said myriarch twice. He likes myriarch. ---
**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/583 "2019-02-03T17:33:28Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I like that. But in view of the mission of this message board, it’s worth noting that the etymology of “oligarch” actually breaks down into (from the Greek) “olig” (few) and “arch” (leader). > > Lots of other “archs,” per Wiktionary: > > [ul] > [li]acritarch[/li][li]anarch[/li][li]coloniarch[/li][li]diarch[/li][li]enomotarch[/li][li]exilarch[/li][li]heptarch[/li][li]heresiarch[/li][li]hierarch[/li][li]matriarch[/li][li]monarch[/li][li]myriarch[/li][li]myriarch[/li][li]mysteriarch[/li][li]navarch[/li][li]oligarch[/li][li]omniarch[/li][li]patriarch[/li][li]triarch[/li][li]xystarch[/li][/ul] [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English\_words\_suffixed\_with\_-arch](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_words_suffixed_with_-arch) > > Clearly, the one to be is “Omniarch.” “Acritarch,”\* not so much. > > \*Any small, non-acid-soluble (i.e. non-carbonate, non-siliceous) organic fossil that cannot be classified. Interesting, thanks for sharing! 🙂 I now officially amend my previous statement. Not only is Oligarch the best garch, it’s the only garch. Just like Tigger and The Not Great Pumpkin. [https://www.bestwordlist.com/f/g/5/wordsendinggarch.htm](https://www.bestwordlist.com/f/g/5/wordsendinggarch.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/584 "2019-02-03T23:07:05Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > You said myriarch twice. It was Groundhog Day. > [@TheMysteryWriter](#): > > I now officially amend my previous statement. Not only is Oligarch the best garch, it’s the only garch. This cannot be disputed. ETA: It’s occurred to me that one day, when Trump has no more access to power (whether through resignation, removal by Constitutional means, or by death)—we will be able to say, contraction-wise rather than possession-wise: **Trump’s Shutdown** And it shall be a day of great rejoicing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/585 "2019-02-03T23:23:48Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > ETA: It’s occurred to me that one day, when Trump has no more access to power (whether through resignation, removal by Constitutional means, or by death)—we will be able to say, contraction-wise rather than possession-wise: > > **Trump’s Shutdown** > > And it shall be a day of great rejoicing. Sounds similar but what we’ll be saying is “Trump’s shut down”. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/586 "2019-02-03T23:52:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Sounds similar but what we’ll be saying is “Trump’s shut down”. Correct. But who will care about proper usage at a moment like that? (Of course I was aiming at duplicating the thread title.) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/587 "2019-02-03T23:56:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Sounds similar but what we’ll be saying is “Trump’s shut down”. I’ll be happy enough with “Trump’s shut **up** ” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/588 "2019-02-04T00:01:41Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’ll be happy enough with “Trump’s shut **up** ” > [@Sherrerd](#): > > …one day, when Trump has no more access to power (whether through **resignation, removal by Constitutional means, or by death** ) … So, option 3, then. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/589 "2019-02-04T01:29:34Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Correct. But who will care about proper usage at a moment like that? > > (Of course I was aiming at duplicating the thread title.) Oh, I know… but we do have a tradition of grammar pedantry to uphold eh. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’ll be happy enough with “Trump’s shut **up** ” Winner winner! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/590 "2019-02-04T02:46:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Of course, one of the largest U.S. steel producers is EVRAZ, which is controlled by Roman Abramovich, Alexander Abramov, and Aleksandr Frolov, who are close to Putin. > > [Evraz shareholders Roman Abramovich, Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov on list of those said to have benefitted from close ties to Russian leader](https://nationalpost.com/news/world/owners-of-western-canadas-biggest-steel-company-on-u-s-treasurys-new-putin-list). (NB: _National Post_ is Canadian, hence they talk about EVRAZ’s Canadian operations. EVRAZ North America is headquartered in Chicago.) But of course. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/591 "2019-02-04T13:30:03Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Correct. But who will care about proper usage at a moment like that? Now I’m thinking of the ending or Ep. 6; the [revised](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDqgJye7hyc) one. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/592 "2019-02-05T01:27:12Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Now I’m thinking of the ending or Ep. 6; the [revised](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDqgJye7hyc) one. You mean you think Hayden Christensen will play a prominent role in the celebrations? But seriously: if there IS life on other planets, I bet they’d celebrate the end of Trump along with us. It just stands to reason. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/593 "2019-02-07T15:52:53Z")
I’m thinking of a way to avoid Shutdown II (aka Oops, I’ve done it again) without building a wall. Trump keenly wants one so badly because he wants a monument (not legacy). I mean after all, he was asking NASA how much it would cost to put a man on Mars before the end of his first term. Here is what the Democrats offer:[ul] [li]Yes, border is security is important, but the wall is expensive and useless.[/li][li]Therefore we are willing to spend more money on beefing up Border Patrol and ICE staffing.[/li][li](Here’s the part that will change Trump’s mind) On the back of their blue jackets instead of BORDER or ICE, it will say TRUMP.\*[/li][/ul]So whattaya think? Will if fly with Donny Two-scoops or not? \*In gold instead of yellow. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/594 "2019-02-07T16:09:27Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > So whattaya think? Will if fly with Donny Two-scoops or not? It doesn’t fly with me, and I doubt most of my fellow Americans will feel any different. Fuck him: no compromise on this; no wall. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/595 "2019-02-07T16:28:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > It doesn’t fly with me, and I doubt most of my fellow Americans will feel any different. > > Fuck him: no compromise on this; no wall. Yeah. No wall!!! Except for the walls we already have. No marginal increases to the wall!!! The percentage of wall we had in January 2017 should be immutable because the Blessed Obama hath laid hands upon the sacred documents of bureaucracy. How hilarious that the party hacks can be riled up over marginal changes to policy. Simple pawns. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/596 "2019-02-07T16:36:08Z")
The conman desperately needs something to show his dupes so that he can keep them duped. If we give him that we are aiding and abetting the con and harming our country. People need to see that the Emperor has no clothes in order to start the process of fixing this mess we’ve gotten ourselves into. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/597 "2019-02-07T16:38:18Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yeah. No wall!!! > > Except for the walls we already have. > > No marginal increases to the wall!!! The percentage of wall we had in January 2017 should be immutable because the Blessed Obama hath laid hands upon the sacred documents of bureaucracy. > > How hilarious that the party hacks can be riled up over marginal changes to policy. Simple pawns. Didn’t the party hacks already agree to marginal increases to the wall? And then Trump backed out of that deal? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/598 "2019-02-07T16:38:21Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yeah. No wall!!! > > Except for the walls we already have. > > No marginal increases to the wall!!! The percentage of wall we had in January 2017 should be immutable because the Blessed Obama hath laid hands upon the sacred documents of bureaucracy. > > How hilarious that the party hacks can be riled up over marginal changes to policy. Simple pawns. Not as hilarious as posting that second-to-last line after the preceding 5 sentences. Your not getting your wall, Farnaby. Texas doesn’t want it, and what Texas doesn’t want, you’re not going to get. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/599 "2019-02-07T16:57:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > How hilarious that the party hacks can be riled up over marginal changes to policy. Simple pawns. Yes: we laugh at you and yours all the time. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/600 "2019-02-07T17:15:56Z")
No compromise. No wall. It doesn’t matter what either side gets him to agree to. He doesn’t keep his word or follow through. He is a Trump Tower of Jell-o and cannot be trusted on any subject at any time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577.md?page=31)