# Trump's Shutdown

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577 "2019-01-11T06:18:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
**Page:** 35

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/681 "2019-02-15T22:05:00Z")

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/682 "2019-02-15T22:12:47Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> In his speech today regarding the need to declare an emergency, he said “I want to do it faster. I could do the wall over a longer period of time. **I didn’t need to do this** , but I’d rather do it much faster.”
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> That’s quite a gift to everyone planning on challenging this in court.

> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Oh that’s delightful. It’s right up there with, “I’ll be proud to own this shutdown. I won’t blame it on you.”

Yup. And next week (or sooner… but today \*is \*Friday…) he’ll deny he ever said it.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/683 "2019-02-16T02:55:32Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> If they’d had Alec Baldwin do that on SNL, I would’ve thought, _“aw, you’re better than that; just do a decent impression of the guy and make fun of him for what he actually does. Why make this up? Trump’s not that ridiculous; sing-songy on every fifth word? What’s being parodied? What’s the gag? I don’t get it.”_
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> And yet, here we are.

Baldwin will be standing at a podium in iDJiT drag, raise a finger and take a deep breath, then break character and say,“fuck it, I got nothing to match that shit.”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/684 "2019-02-17T00:35:56Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> … Speaking of which, this was an especially weird Trump appearance, even by his lofty standards. Check out the bizarre sing-songy cadence he goes into at about 22:15:
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> This goes on for several minutes. ...

Use of a sing-song voice is a symptom of several possible disorders.

Manic episodes:

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> Manic patients’ minds are working so fast that they come up with rhymes or sing-song phrases, burst out in song or start dancing spontaneously. Their daily behavior can become disorganized or even dangerous to the point that they require hospitalization.

> **[Phases of Bipolar Disorder](https://psychcentral.com/bipolar/phases-of-bipolar-disorder)**
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> Bipolar disorder can occur in phases. Here's how to recognize each one.

More likely for Trump, though, is brain deterioration that could mimic autism:

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> Social communication / interaction behaviors may include:  
> [ul]  
> [li]Having difficulties with the back and forth of conversation[/li][li]Often talking at length about a favorite subject without noticing that others are not interested or without giving others a chance to respond[/li][li]Having facial expressions, movements, and gestures that do not match what is being said[/li][li] **Having an unusual tone of voice that may sound sing-song** or flat and robot-like[/li][/ul]

> **[Autism Spectrum Disorder](https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/autism-spectrum-disorders-asd)**
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> Learn about autism spectrum disorder, including signs and symptoms, causes, how it is diagnosed, and potential treatments.

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> This article describes a comprehensive approach to the mental status examination and diagnostic workup of patients suspected of having an emerging neurodegenerative dementia. …
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> … A detailed mental status history is important to determine onset, time course, and progression of symptoms that influences the differential diagnosis. For example, the pace of disease progression may be characterized as an acute decline that can be seen following a stroke or head injury, or subacute decline that can be associated with an infectious or neoplastic process, or a slow, insidious change that is most often associated with a neurodegenerative condition.
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> …\*\*Other errors in speech include disorders of prosody, or the sing-song quality of speech \*\*…

> **[The Mental Status Examination in Patients With Suspected Dementia](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5390931/)**
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> Purpose of Review: This article describes a comprehensive approach to the mental status examination and diagnostic workup of patients suspected of having an emerging neurodegenerative dementia. Key strategies for obtaining a history and bedside...

(my emphasis)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/685 "2019-02-17T04:15:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Manic patients’ minds are working so fast that they come up with rhymes or sing-song phrases, **burst out in song** or start **dancing spontaneously**. Their daily behavior can become disorganized or even dangerous to the point that they require hospitalization.

(my bolding)

If I ever see Trump doing that, I’m outta here.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/686 "2019-02-17T05:48:41Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Baldwin will be standing at a podium in iDJiT drag, raise a finger and take a deep breath, then break character and say,“fuck it, I got nothing to match that shit.”

Just watched this week’s _SNL_ cold open, and they would have been better served to have done just that, rather than what they did, which was to more or less rehash the speech verbatim. It’s well past time, I think, to retire Baldwin, who has the hopeless task of trying to out-parodize the parody that Trump himself has become.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/687 "2019-02-17T13:34:00Z")

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For the entry of _Poe’s law_, future editions of dictionaries merely need to include a picture of Trump.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/688 "2019-02-17T23:02:19Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Manic patients’ minds are working so fast that they come up with rhymes or sing-song phrases, burst out in song or **start dancing spontaneously**.
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> (my bolding)
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> If I ever see Trump doing that, I’m outta here.

But think of the boon it would be to the eye-bleach industry!

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Just watched this week’s _SNL_ cold open, and they would have been better served to have done just that, rather than what they did, which was to more or less rehash the speech verbatim. …

SNL added a major element: their Trump’s sing-song ended with him predicting that the entire ‘national emergency’ debacle would end with him leaving the Presidency.

You can’t deny people their daydreams.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-shutdown/827577/689 "2019-02-19T12:33:04Z")

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Important reminder from RTFirefly in another thread:

“538 has a whip count of the Senate as regards Trump’s declaration of a state of emergency. If you’ve got a GOP Senator who’s listed as undecided or having concerns/doubts (22 Senators from 17 states), you should be calling your Senator, whichever side you’re on! (8 GOP Senators already oppose the emergency declaration, so if the undecideds/concerns break 12/22 against the declaration, it would be veto override city.)”

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