# Trump's Star of David tweet

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 4, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090 "2016-07-04T19:58:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/201 "2016-07-07T01:05:37Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Maybe Trump was trying to communicate Hillary’s true feelings?
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> “Former Clinton consultant Dick Morris said that in a dispute over money, you said to him, “That’s all you people care about is money.” He took that to be a slap at him because he is a Jew.”
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> [http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2007/12/07/14\_questions\_id\_ask\_hillary\_after\_i\_hooked\_her\_up\_to\_a\_lie\_detector](http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2007/12/07/14_questions_id_ask_hillary_after_i_hooked_her_up_to_a_lie_detector)

Not everyone thinks that Dick Morris is a trusted source.

> **[Horse Racing Winnings To Be Paid In Full In Kentucky - yournewswire](https://yournewswire.com/horse-racing-winnings-to-be-paid-in-full-in-kentucky)**
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> Horse racing bettors in Kentucky will be delighted to learn that they will now receive all of their horse racing winnings in full.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/202 "2016-07-07T01:10:22Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> You don’t believe your final line in that post is insulting? If not, then let me disabuse you: it is.

I’m being warned for insulting another poster? Is there some reason you can’t make that clear both in your warning and in your explanation?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/203 "2016-07-07T01:16:26Z")

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There have been approximatly one hundred posts today on this nonsense.

And, until now, zero on Hillary Clinton’s plan for free college tuition for the poor and middle class, announced today:

[Would you get free tuition under Hillary Clinton?](http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/06/pf/college/hillary-clinton-college-plan/)

I don’t think Trump is likeable enough to win, but he sure is smart enough.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/204 "2016-07-07T01:17:39Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Post shortened.
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> Right. That’s actually my point. Thanks! If you search out six pointed stars you can find them. If you search “stars” it’s sort of hard to find a random clip art six pointed star. If you are specifically searching for six pointed stars it must be for a reason.
> 
> Good summation of my point. I’m glad you have come around to seeing that the original image was clearly intentionally racist and that Trump should own up to the mistake and apologize.

Earlier today, Trump said it was a 6-pointed star.

It’s not difficult to find 4, 5, 6, 7, and more pointed stars. You saw what you wanted to see, or had been told to see? Either way, every 6-pointed star is NOT a Star of David.

FYI - You have not convinced me that YOUR interpretation of these events is correct, or that YOUR interpretation is the only possible version of these events. You can speak for yourself, you can speak for Hillary worshippers, but you can not speak for me.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/205 "2016-07-07T01:21:11Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> For free ice cream? Is this a trick question? 😃

Hmm. In a neat parallel to the tweet in question, a clear message was created and intended and easily understood, and you’re – like the one guy here who insists it means something pro-Trump instead.

And, in doing so, you threw in an implausible claim that’s not to be taken seriously?

I never met a metaphor before.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/206 "2016-07-07T01:24:37Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Earlier today, Trump said it was a 6-pointed star.
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> It’s not difficult to find 4, 5, 6, 7, and more pointed stars. You saw what you wanted to see, or had been told to see? Either way, every 6-pointed star is NOT a Star of David.
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> FYI - You have not convinced me that YOUR interpretation of these events is correct, or that YOUR interpretation is the only possible version of these events. You can speak for yourself, you can speak for Hillary worshippers, but you can not speak for me.

Yes yes. Sorry for being glib. I don’t actually think it’s possible to convince you. I’m not really trying. As someone who dislikes Hillary (because of her actual political stances) I don’t think the Hillary worshipers would want me talking for them though.

Don’t make assumptions about the people that disagree with you. Then you would be as bad as those that you think you are fighting against.

As it is, I love the depth of the irony in your posts. It’s really layered.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/207 "2016-07-07T01:28:48Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Earlier today, Trump said it was a 6-pointed star.
> 
> It’s not difficult to find 4, 5, 6, 7, and more pointed stars. You saw what you wanted to see, or had been told to see? Either way, every 6-pointed star is NOT a Star of David.
> 
> FYI - You have not convinced me that YOUR interpretation of these events is correct, or that YOUR interpretation is the only possible version of these events. You can speak for yourself, you can speak for Hillary worshippers, but you can not speak for me.

Meh, worshippers like Paul Ryan?

> **[Paul Ryan says Trump’s Star of David tweet was ‘anti-Semitic,’ while campaign...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2016/07/08/paul-ryan-says-trumps-star-of-david-tweet-was-anti-semitic-while-campaign-blames-it-on-microsoft-word/)**
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> Donald Trump’s campaign keeps coming up with excuses for his controversial Star of David tweet — but even House Speaker Paul Ryan thinks it was anti-Semitic. “Look, anti-Semitic i…

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> “Look, anti-Semitic images, they’ve got no place in a presidential campaign,” Ryan told WTMJ’s Charlie Skyes Tuesday about Trump’s anti-Hillary Clinton meme — which showed a Star of David over a pile of money.
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> “Candidates should know that.”
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> Ryan, Trump’s most prominent political supporter, added that Trump has “got to clean up the way his new media works.”

Point being that it was not the image alone what got Trump is trouble but the source and the fact that Trump stinginess on not getting graphical talent for original posts is a big reason for the continuing tweets coming from racists and bigots that he uses.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/208 "2016-07-07T01:38:41Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> That’ll earn you a warning, Frank. You should know better than this.
> 
> Please don’t do it again.

Look, there are very few possibilities for why anyone would be defending such clear anti-Semitic hate propaganda. Even the most stupid poster would stop after the tweet’s origins were pointed out and appreciate the fact that even if they had, fortunately, not enough experience with anti-Semitic propaganda to recognize what it was, that it clearly was that. The only possibilities are:

1. They could be anti-Semitic shitholes.
2. They could be high/on drugs/deranged.
3. They could be trolls.

Offering possibility two is the _nicest_ thing that could be said.

Yes, Trump’s people may have just been searching through White Supremacist message boards, as is their wont, came upon this tweet and thought, hey, great anti-Clinton graphic, being too ignorant to recognize its meaning. Unlikely given that anyone who surfs those sites knows the vocabulary, but let’s go with it. Someone quickly realized that it was attacking an Other that is not one of the officially blessed to attack by Trump Others, and modified it fairly quickly.

Nothing more … or less … than we’d expect and minor in significance to the more frontal attacks on Muslims and Hispanics. A meh and move on.

But dang. Trying to claim that the original tweet is NOT what it clearly and absolutely is, that’s either psychotic, delusional, drug-induced, trolling, or the speech of an anti-Semite. And yes I if stating that obvious truth is warnable here, well I am due one after all these years.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/209 "2016-07-07T01:54:48Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Hmm. In a neat parallel to the tweet in question, a clear message was created and intended and easily understood, and you’re – like the one guy here who insists it means something pro-Trump instead.
> 
> And, in doing so, you threw in an implausible claim that’s not to be taken seriously?
> 
> I never met a metaphor before.

Does this mean there won’t be any ice cream?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/210 "2016-07-07T01:57:21Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Does this mean there won’t be any ice cream?

…and I just realized the significance of your name rhyming with orange. :eek:

Ice cream it is.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/211 "2016-07-07T02:03:45Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Meh, worshippers like Paul Ryan?
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> [Paul Ryan says Trump’s Star of David tweet was ‘anti-Semitic,’ while campaign blames it on Microsoft Word – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-excuse-trump-star-david-tweet-blame-microsoft-word-article-1.2699364)  
> Point being that it was not the image alone what got Trump is trouble but the source and the fact that Trump stinginess on not getting graphical talent for original posts is a big reason for the continuing tweets coming from racists and bigots that he uses.

_“Look, anti-Semitic images, they’ve got no place in a presidential campaign,” Ryan told WTMJ’s Charlie Skyes Tuesday about Trump’s anti-Hillary Clinton meme — which showed a Star of David over a pile of money._

Is it known that Ryan actually saw the tweet in question before responding or was the tweet simply described to him complete with the “Star of David over a pile of money” comment?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/212 "2016-07-07T02:12:06Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Some were lined, some weren’t. Sometimes it wasn’t even a star.
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> [Photographs & Overview of Jewish Badges in the Holocaust](http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/badges.html)  
> I couldn’t tell you which was the most ubiquitous, but I mostly know the lined one with “Jude” in the middle.

To my knowledge the most widely-used version was the unlined one, in occupied Poland and elsewhere. (Certainly more Polish Jews died, than any other nationality.) That’s the one burned into my memory from the first photo images I saw, as a child learning about the Holocaust.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/213 "2016-07-07T02:28:54Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Is it known that Ryan actually saw the tweet in question before responding or was the tweet simply described to him complete with the “Star of David over a pile of money” comment?

Does it make any difference?

Are you trying to suggest that had he seen the tweet - he would be ok with it? Even given it’s providence?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/214 "2016-07-07T04:08:32Z")

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I don’t know who’s running Hillary Clinton’s social media, but they deserve an award.

Trump [tweets](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-cant-let-it-charges-of-anti-semitism-go-1783249704) a picture of a Disney “Frozen” book with a six-pointed star, asking “Where’s the outrage for this Disney book? Is this the ‘Star of David’ also? Dishonest Media! #Frozen”

Clinton’s tweeted response: “Do you want to build a strawman?”

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**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/215 "2016-07-07T04:25:01Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I don’t know who’s running Hillary Clinton’s social media, but they deserve an award.
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> Trump [tweets](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-cant-let-it-charges-of-anti-semitism-go-1783249704) a picture of a Disney “Frozen” book with a six-pointed star, asking “Where’s the outrage for this Disney book? Is this the ‘Star of David’ also? Dishonest Media! #Frozen”
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> Clinton’s tweeted response: “Do you want to build a strawman?”

The notion that Donald Trump is a Democrat fifth columnist, while it would explain much, strikes me as a bit too far-fetched.

But the people running his Twitter account? Democrat fifth columnists, clearly. Nothing else could explain this.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/216 "2016-07-07T04:52:56Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I don’t know who’s running Hillary Clinton’s social media, but they deserve an award.
> 
> Trump [tweets](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-cant-let-it-charges-of-anti-semitism-go-1783249704) a picture of a Disney “Frozen” book with a six-pointed star, asking “Where’s the outrage for this Disney book? Is this the ‘Star of David’ also? Dishonest Media! #Frozen”
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> Clinton’s tweeted response: “Do you want to build a strawman?”

That’s much too clever for the Hillbot campaign. I had to check to see if it was true, surprisingly it appears so.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/217 "2016-07-07T05:04:17Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> It’s no different than how some white people will tell black people that a racist image isn’t racist. Or how sexists will always insist that a given sexist example isn’t sexist. It’s always people being too PC, or too sensitive, or looking for trouble.
> 
> Bigots have have finally grasped that bigotry is wrong, so they twist themselves into knots to find some way to cast doubt on the accusation. And of course, it’s always supposedly the fault of the people who call them on their bigotry, for being reverse racists or man-haters.

It’s a form of gaslighting.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/218 "2016-07-07T06:02:41Z")

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Yes, yes, this is terribly confusing. Trump retweets something by a white supremacist showing a Star of David swimming in an ocean of money and a few people get the wrong idea. The media doesn’t help as it is incredibly biased. That’s why I rely on analysis by objective sources, like the twitter account [LOLGOP](https://twitter.com/LOLGOP):

[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]Will Trump get the traditional “spending 11 days defending a neo-Nazi symbol” bump?

It’s important to defend Saddam Hussein’s competency and insult Jews, says likely GOP nominee for president.

America is so politically correct! You retweet 75 racists and all of sudden you have to “explain yourself.”

I have no idea why neo-Nazis are attracted to a presidential candidate who regrets taking down an antisemitic meme. Huge mystery to me.

Must be some master persuasion too subtle for the human eye.

It’s not Trump’s fault that racists are drawn to a birther who calls Mexicans “rapists” & “accidentally” retweets white nationalists weekly!

Newt is the perfect false flag running mate. Anyone looks better in comparison.

Trump was never called racist until he ran for president! People just thought he wanted Obama’s birth certificate because he loves documents. [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT]

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/219 "2016-07-07T06:16:10Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> It’s a form of gaslighting.

Oh, and don’t forget: No matter what, come Hell, high water, and explicit Neo-Nazi imagery on the Trump Twitter feed, Clinton is just as bad.

It’s an article of faith. Can’t question it, or you’re partisan, and being partisan is _much_ worse than being factually incorrect and morally incoherent.

High Broderism is a difficult faith, but it rewards its followers with ratings and ad revenue. You just have to turn off your brain and convince yourself that disproven allegations and baseless innuendo are just as bad as demonstrated bad faith and proven bad behavior.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/220 "2016-07-07T10:03:17Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> It boggles my mind how some folks are able to tell Jewish people, “no, you’re wrong, that’s not about Jews at all - that’s not even a star of David!” with a straight face.
> 
> What, we’re only allowed to be offended now that there’s hard evidence of the picture’s provenence? Guess what? It was offensive the whole damned time, and next time maybe, just maybe, take someone from the affected group at their word. The picture was ALWAYS antisemitic and it would have been even if the evidence had never surfaced.

Goysplaining.

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