# Trump's Star of David tweet **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 4, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090 "2016-07-04T19:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/61 "2016-07-05T04:55:31Z")
I wonder how many of them are Odinists ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/62 "2016-07-05T05:01:45Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I think what’s most likely is: > > 1. The guy who made the original image intended anti-Semitic connections. > 2. Trump, or somebody from his campaign, found the image, thought, “Cool, attack on Hillary”, and posted it to twitter, not necessarily knowing or caring about the source. > 3. When it was pointed out, the Trump campaign changes the star to a circle, because, “Hey, where ever it comes from, attack on Hillary!”, and, as they always do, rather than admit they screwed up, because they see that as a sign of weakness, go on the attack. > > I don’t think the thing here is that Trump is anti-Semitic. I think the thing is that Trump has very little in the way of campaign staff or organization, so they don’t do stuff in an organized way, and they don’t check their stuff before they do anything with it. It’s a scattershot thing…they throw enough stuff out there, something sticks, but it’s not professional yet. This was my initial impression… But there are two not very attractive possibilities. 1. The image was found via image search and stolen…If they don’t care about copyright at this stage it’s more than just a little foolish. 2. Somebody on the campaign is regularly at such sites. Neither is an attractive proposition ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/63 "2016-07-05T05:02:23Z")
Ok, but remember that Jerry Falwell Jr. [endorsed Trump](http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article85250202.html). ## And lots of evangelicals do as well, for reasons that lead to pundit head scratching: [Experts Offer 4 Theories of Evangelical Donald Trump Supporters | Politics](http://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelical-donald-trump-supporters-prosperity-working-class-158741/) All that said, I mostly agree with Captain Amazing. Except… anybody who has grown up in New York City has had some exposure to folks of the Jewish faith. Despite this familiarity, he has said some pretty odd stuff. Speaking to the Republican Jewish Coalition he said: [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]“I’m a negotiator — like you folks” and “Is there anyone in this room who doesn’t negotiate deals? Probably more than any room I’ve ever spoken.” and ““You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money. Isn’t it crazy? You want to control your own politician.”” [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] Speaking for many, Bush’s former spokesperson Ari Fleisher said, ““Trump to the Republican Jewish Coalition: ‘You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money.’ What the hell does that mean?”” Headline at the Times of Israel: “Trump courts Republican Jews with offensive stereotypes.” > **[Trump’s Republican Jewish Coalition event comments stoke outrage over...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2015/12/04/trumps-republican-jewish-coalition-event-comments-stoke-outrage-over-stereotypes-during-awkward-day-for-gop-hopefuls/)** > > Donald Trump led a field of faux pas at an awkward presidential candidate forum for the Republican Jewish Coalition Thursday. The GOP frontrunner stoked outrage among Jews both in attendance and in… I don’t see this as outrageous so much as an indicator that Trump is an undiplomatic clod. Fine for inheriting money and driving businesses into the earth, but not for residing in the White House, having near limitless power of the pardon or any sort of access to the nuclear codes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/64 "2016-07-05T05:30:41Z")
Damn, Trump’s candidacy hasn’t imploded yet. I’m shocked, SHOCKED! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/65 "2016-07-05T07:26:47Z")
Gary Johnson, one time Republican Governor and Libertarian candidate for President thinks Trump’s comments were clearly racist: [INDENT][INDENT]He has said 100 things that would disqualify anyone else from running for president but it doesn’t seem to affect him… The stuff he’s saying is just incendiary. It’s racist. [/INDENT][/INDENT] Give credit where credit is due. Ron Paul made kissy-lips with white supremacists, bigots, homophobes and holocaust deniers. I guess Johnson parts company with this Libertarian tradition. Cites on Gary Johnson: [Libertarian Nominee Gary Johnson Says Donald Trump "Clearly" Racist](http://gawker.com/libertarian-nominee-gary-johnson-says-donald-trump-cle-1783061564) > **[Trump comments 'clearly' racist, says Gary Johnson amid antisemitism furor](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/03/donald-trump-racist-gary-johnson-antisemitism-hillary-clinton)** > > Image tweeted by Trump found on white supremacist message board but Lewandowski says six-pointed star in Clinton picture is just ‘a simple star’ Cites on Ron Paul: [TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters | The New Republic](https://newrepublic.com/article/98883/ron-paul-incendiary-newsletters-exclusive) > **[Why the Republican Party as We Know It Needs to End Now: Ron Paul Story That...](https://www.bradford-delong.com/2012/01/why-the-republican-party-as-we-know-it-needs-to-end-now-ron-paul-story-that-i-knew-five-years-ago-edition.html)** > > Jerry Markon and Alice Crites say the obvious: \>Ron Paul signed off on racist 1990s newsletters, associates say: Ron Paul, well known as a physician, congressman and libertarian, has also been a businessman who pursued a marketing strategy that... ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/66 "2016-07-05T12:15:53Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > There are three big problems with this theory: > > 1. The star, for the hundredth time, doesn’t look like a Star of David. A Star of David typically isn’t filled in. This one is. A Star of David is typically comprised of two clearly delineated overlapping triangles. This one isn’t. A Star of David is never tilted. This one is. I can understand why a politician might use loaded symbols but why would a random anti-semite on the internet do so? Why didn’t he just use an actual Star of David? Hell, why doesn’t Hillary have a hook-nose and bag of Jew gold round her neck? It’s not like internet trolls are known for their subtlety. You keep saying this as if it were plain fact. It isn’t. Take a look at this link. [http://www.holocaustcenter.org/holocaust-badges](http://www.holocaustcenter.org/holocaust-badges) Scroll half way down. One of the most common stars in eastern Europe, the one my grandfather wore, was plain yellow and filled in with no lines. Sever stars on that page are tilted. As a symbol of Israel you may be right about the rules for the Star of David. But hate groups typically don’t care for your rules. If it wasn’t a star of David, what did it mean? You have to remember it takes effort to put this stuff together. Why put a star there at all? Why put anything there? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/67 "2016-07-05T13:06:36Z")
It was a “sheriff’s star,” obviously, because something something. … law and order … something something … Hillary is a criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/68 "2016-07-05T14:19:27Z")
The Israeli Air Force seems to think [their Star of David](http://www.gettyimages.com/event/israeli-airforce-receives-latest-generation-of-uavs-96794551#israeli-air-force-chief-ido-nehushtan-introduces-the-eitan-the-latest-picture-id96924670) is correct. What does the use of the symbol say about Trump? That he’s got minions who troll exceedingly Far Right sources. And he’s too clueless to pay attention, until someone rubs his nose in their messes… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/69 "2016-07-05T14:27:52Z")
Star or circle, to me it mostly looks like a sticker on an album cover. \*\* Includes the Hit Single “_My Humps_”!\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/70 "2016-07-05T14:55:11Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > End Times types are rarely Catholic and they’re almost always Evangelical. > > Anyway, most of Trump’s supporters are the hard core Christian type. Those guys were supporters of Cruz. Never said they were Catholic. End Timers are Fundamentalist Christians. Saying they’re Evangelical is like saying Americans support Trump. Sure the people that will vote for Trump are Americans, but by no means every American. Fundies are a very small sub-group of Evangelicals. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/71 "2016-07-05T15:00:29Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > The Israeli Air Force seems to think [their Star of David](http://www.gettyimages.com/event/israeli-airforce-receives-latest-generation-of-uavs-96794551#israeli-air-force-chief-ido-nehushtan-introduces-the-eitan-the-latest-picture-id96924670) is correct. Yeah, but it’s BLUE. The star in the tweet was RED. Clearly an entirely different thing. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > What does the use of the symbol say about Trump? That he’s got minions who troll exceedingly Far Right sources. And he’s too clueless to pay attention, until someone rubs his nose in their messes… I think this is a good example where we shouldn’t try to mistake aggression for what is more likely explained by self-sabotage. Trump’s latest tweet is demonstrably racist and is just another example in a long line of bigoted statements he’s made in this campaign. But this repeated and determined efforts to shoot himself in the foot clearly demonstrates one thing and one thing only – He doesn’t want the job. This run for POTUS was just a publicity stunt that’s gone farther than he ever imagined it would go. He’s lost control but is too much of an ego-maniac to admit it. The only thing he can do now is try to out-buffoon the buffoonery he’s perpetrated to date and hope it will be the thing that finally derails this runaway train. To facilitate this outcome, he’s turning a blind eye to the wing-nuts in his own campaign. Much to Trump’s surprise, he is caught up in the same rush of mass public ignorance that is mirrored by the Brit politicians who were pro-Brexit but now can’t abandon ship fast enough. He under-estimated the capacity of large numbers of people to believe and do stupid things. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/72 "2016-07-05T15:19:25Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > Oh, cut the crap. Type ‘Star of David’ into a Google image search and see what comes up. A Star of David is almost never filled in. Why is this one filled in? A Star of David is typically comprised of two clearly delineated overlapping triangles. Why isn’t this one? A Star of David is never tilted. Why is this one tilted? And why would some random anti-semite on the internet bother to be coy? If, as you’d have us believe, this poster was created by anti-semites for anti-semites, why didn’t the creator just swipe the Star of David straight off the Israeli flag? Please, do tell us: the Stars of David that the Nazis made Jews wear, were they two clearly delineated overlapping triangles, or filled-in? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/73 "2016-07-05T16:20:56Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > But this repeated and determined efforts to shoot himself in the foot clearly demonstrates one thing and one thing only – He doesn’t want the job. This run for POTUS was just a publicity stunt that’s gone farther than he ever imagined it would go. He’s lost control but is too much of an ego-maniac to admit it. The problem with this theory is that these supposed acts of self-sabotage are damaging his brand…the one thing that has made him relevant among the power establishment. His antics could cost him money if investors start seeing him as a loose-cannon buffoon more than a smart capitalist. If he’s scorching the Earth just to lose, then he’s even crazier than we thought. To hurt his own campaign while still keeping his brand intact, all he would need to do is tone down his attention-seeking behavior on Twitter, let HRC get some free jabs at him, and be tamer at his rallies. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/74 "2016-07-05T16:21:42Z")
Filled in, but yellow. Completely different things, unless you’re a dog. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/75 "2016-07-05T16:39:03Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > The problem with this theory is that these supposed acts of self-sabotage are damaging his brand…the one thing that has made him relevant among the power establishment. His antics could cost him money if investors start seeing him as a loose-cannon buffoon more than a smart capitalist. If he’s scorching the Earth just to lose, then he’s even crazier than we thought. > > To hurt his own campaign while still keeping his brand intact, all he would need to do is tone down his attention-seeking behavior on Twitter, let HRC get some free jabs at him, and be tamer at his rallies. Nobody but nobody who goes into business with Trump is laboring under the illusion that Trump’s brand isn’t riddled with bankruptcies, failed ventures, law suits, what-have-you. His brand does not seem to be diminished by bad press/optics any more than his ego. Others have speculated that his next venture will be a Trump media oulet. He appears to be laying the ground work for why you can’t trust existing news outlets because they “all lie”. His, you see, will be the biggest, the most honest, news outlet. And if he manages to hang on to the army of mouth breathing morons that is his current voting base, it may well eclipse Fox News and many other conservative TV and online outlets. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/76 "2016-07-05T17:20:10Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Filled in, but yellow. Completely different things, unless you’re a dog. Since I happen to be a color-blind Jew, can I despise Trump whole-heartedly? ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/77 "2016-07-05T17:24:45Z")
The question of whether it is or is not a Star of David is completely irrelevant, and is intended to distract us from the fact that it came from a white supremacist website. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/78 "2016-07-05T17:25:35Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Nobody but nobody who goes into business with Trump is laboring under the illusion that Trump’s brand isn’t riddled with bankruptcies, failed ventures, law suits, what-have-you. His brand does not seem to be diminished by bad press/optics any more than his ego. [That’s](http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2016/04/04/new-survey-suggests-trumps-presidential-campaign-will-hurt-bookings-at-trump-hotels-golf-courses/#61de572860cd) not [what](http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2016/04/04/new-survey-suggests-trumps-presidential-campaign-will-hurt-bookings-at-trump-hotels-golf-courses/#61de572860cd) the data [suggests](http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trumps-campaign-hurting-his-business-trump-hotel-bookings-plummet-amid-insults-2374120). Investors factor in what how they think the buying public will put their dollars towards. If they think spenders will associate the Trump brand with lies, litigiousness, swindling, vulgarity, and bigotry, then they are going to back away from him. He may have always been seen as reckless, but never has he shown his backside like he is now. > [@](#): > > Others have speculated that his next venture will be a Trump media oulet. He appears to be laying the ground work for why you can’t trust existing news outlets because they “all lie”. His, you see, will be the biggest, the most honest, news outlet. And if he manages to hang on to the army of mouth breathing morons that is his current voting base, it may well eclipse Fox News and many other conservative TV and online outlets. Possibly, we’ll see. If Trump continues like he is, he will have no choice but to venture into media. His existing businesses are becoming vulnerable. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/79 "2016-07-05T17:53:39Z")
I think his using this image, is similar to GW slipping lines of Christian hymns into his speeches. Like a secret handshake to the like minded. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/80 "2016-07-05T17:55:57Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > [That’s](http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2016/04/04/new-survey-suggests-trumps-presidential-campaign-will-hurt-bookings-at-trump-hotels-golf-courses/#61de572860cd) not [what](http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2016/04/04/new-survey-suggests-trumps-presidential-campaign-will-hurt-bookings-at-trump-hotels-golf-courses/#61de572860cd) the data [suggests](http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trumps-campaign-hurting-his-business-trump-hotel-bookings-plummet-amid-insults-2374120). > > Investors factor in what how they think the buying public will put their dollars towards. If they think spenders will associate the Trump brand with lies, litigiousness, swindling, vulgarity, and bigotry, then they are going to back away from him. He may have always been seen as reckless, but never has he shown his backside like he is now. Interesting. Thank you for the links. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090.md?page=5)