# Trump's Star of David tweet **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 4, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090 "2016-07-04T19:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/101 "2016-07-05T21:59:08Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Didn’t it have more to do with her disregarding Bill’s rape and sexual harassment accusations than his infidelity? > [Juanita Broaddrick - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick) It depends if we’re talking about language used specifically by Trump surrogate McEnany, or about what’s being said generally by those who oppose Clinton (either Clinton, I suppose) with regard to the “enabler” line of attack. For the first, we’d need all of McEnany’s publicly-available statements which use the “enabler” attack. And quite candidly, I’m not interested enough in McEnany to try to dig those up. My impression is that the “enabler” attack has been used most frequently in connection with Monica Lewinsky, who was a willing participant. If that’s the case then your demur about infidelity (as being less relevant) may not be appropriate. But it’s all rather fuzzy until we get data. For example, a research project could gather all uses of the term “enabler” that appear within (say) 30 words of the use of either “Hillary” or “Clinton” in any printed or recorded media between June 30 2015 and June 30 2016. Then we could look at all those instances and categorize them by whether they also contain references to infidelity or to those with whom WJC has admitted to infidelity, as opposed to references to rape and/or harassment or to those who have allegedly been raped or harassed. We’d really need the data to have reasonable certainty. But as I’ve said, my impression is that “enabler” has been used by anti-Clinton speakers and writers mainly in connection with infidelity. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/102 "2016-07-05T22:07:46Z")
Sorry if it’s been covered, but why can’t they trace the retweet back to an original tweet? It had to have a chain of custody that’s on record. Has anyone tried to explain this from Trumps side? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/103 "2016-07-05T22:16:43Z")
IIRC, the Trump campaign has said they got it from a blandly anti-Hillary site which in turn got it from an anti-semitic white supremacist site. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/104 "2016-07-05T23:05:37Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I think what’s most likely is: > > 1. The guy who made the original image intended anti-Semitic connections. > 2. **Trump, or somebody from his campaign, found the image, thought, “Cool, attack on Hillary”, and posted it to twitter, not necessarily knowing or caring about the source.** > 3. When it was pointed out, the Trump campaign changes the star to a circle, because, “Hey, where ever it comes from, attack on Hillary!”, and, as they always do, rather than admit they screwed up, because they see that as a sign of weakness, go on the attack. > > I don’t think the thing here is that Trump is anti-Semitic. I think the thing is that Trump has very little in the way of campaign staff or organization, so they don’t do stuff in an organized way, and they don’t check their stuff before they do anything with it. It’s a scattershot thing…they throw enough stuff out there, something sticks, but it’s not professional yet. Yes, they found it. But how did they find it? Where did they find it? Why does the Trump campaign seem to keep intersecting with known racist organizations? Even if Trump doesn’t think of himself as a racist, isn’t he, at minimum, a tad insensitive? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/105 "2016-07-05T23:12:34Z")
Not to defend, but a Twitter hashtag leads to myriad places. I’d bet, #neverhillary would yield some pretty juicy shit. The best tweet I tripped across on the matter was this: “Donald Trump doesn’t hate Jews. He’s just jealous one of them gets to fuck his daughter.” ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/106 "2016-07-05T23:31:17Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Please, do tell us: the Stars of David that the Nazis made Jews wear, were they two clearly delineated overlapping triangles, or filled-in? > [@dropzone](#): > > Filled in, but yellow. Completely different things, unless you’re a dog. Varied from country to country. In many places it wasn’t even a star at all. > **[Photographs & Overview of Jewish Badges in the Holocaust](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/photographs-and-overview-of-jewish-badges-in-the-holocaust)** > > Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/107 "2016-07-05T23:35:04Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > IIRC, the Trump campaign has said they got it from a blandly anti-Hillary site which in turn got it from an anti-semitic white supremacist site. The answer is to not do business that way and maybe get your own graphics team, but I think Donald wants to get his votes on the cheap because he was born for that. You don’t have to pay for suckers. He should be demanded to give the sites name and let people make up their own minds about why this keeps happening. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/108 "2016-07-06T03:35:16Z")
I consider myself reasonably well educated, but had you shown me that tweet and asked me what was wrong with it, I could have spent weeks and never come up with a Star of David. As others have said, when has Trump even hinted at any sort of animus towards Jewish people? I think the whole thing plays into his “This country has gone off the deep end with political correctness” line. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/109 "2016-07-06T03:47:44Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I consider myself reasonably well educated, but had you shown me that tweet and asked me what was wrong with it, I could have spent weeks and never come up with a Star of David. > > As others have said, when has Trump even hinted at any sort of animus towards Jewish people? I think the whole thing plays into his “This country has gone off the deep end with political correctness” line. See post #63, and also check the ones I made about his past racist posts from sources that were also anti-semite, you missed many posts reporting that the antisemitism was shown before by Trump and this latest tweet came also from racist and antisemite sources. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/110 "2016-07-06T04:07:10Z")
It did not help also that Trump in his correction from the star of David to the circle one that Trump mentioned again his “America First” slogan that has also anti-semitic undertones. > **[Donald Trump's 'Star of David' tweet controversy, explained | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/04/politics/donald-trump-star-of-david-tweet-explained/)** > > Donald Trump set off his latest firestorm this weekend when he tweeted a graphic critical of Hillary Clinton that featured a six-pointed star, a pile of cash and the words "most corrupt candidate ever." > **[ADL Urges Donald Trump to Reconsider “America First” in Foreign Policy Approach](https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-urges-donald-trump-reconsider-america-first-foreign-policy-approach)** Again, if items like this had happened only once Trump would get the benefit of the doubt. No more after so many strikes. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/111 "2016-07-06T05:23:02Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I consider myself reasonably well educated, but had you shown me that tweet and asked me what was wrong with it, I could have spent weeks and never come up with a Star of David. Ok, but I’m guessing you didn’t grow up in the NY tri-state area. And like most decent people you haven’t brushed up against virulent anti-semitism. The image was created by an anti-semite and I’ve seen that sort of imagery before. > [@](#): > > As others have said, when has Trump even hinted at any sort of animus towards Jewish people? I think the whole thing plays into his “This country has gone off the deep end with political correctness” line. Yeah, see post 63. And 85. Trump is a sales guy. A lot of his most fervent followers are white supremacists. They are not particularly fond of Jews and don’t show reluctance to vocalize that. Josh Marshall: [INDENT][INDENT] One of the most telling things Trump has said during this campaign is that he doesn’t go into rallies with any script or even terribly prepared sense of what he’s going to say. He starts talking and then waits to get a feel for what the audience responds to. In other words, _he homes in on affirmation._ …In the case of Jews, I think Trump is an anti-Semite in the sense of believing in stereotypes of Jews - there’s quite a bit of evidence of this. But I don’t think he has a standing hostility for Jews. It just happens to be that the white nationalists and alt-right racists he’s bonded with so deeply are virtually all _also_ anti-Semites. So that’s just another part of the milieu, the pool of hate filth he’s swimming in. …Perhaps I’m naive and Trump is very tactical about all of this. But I very much doubt it. That would be inconsistent with everything I’ve observed about the man. One might say, with tongue very much in cheek, “Jews have nothing to worry about. Trump’s not an anti-Semite. He’s just very deeply steeped in the neo-Nazi subculture. So these things slip in some time.” [/INDENT][/INDENT] [Understanding the Trump/Star of David Blow Up - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/understanding-the-trump-star-of-david-blow-up) For more on Trump’s twitter ties to racist nutjobs see Kevin Drum. [Donald Trump’s Love Affair With White Supremacists – Mother Jones](http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/07/donald-trumps-love-affair-white-supremacists) ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/112 "2016-07-06T13:26:44Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I consider myself reasonably well educated, but had you shown me that tweet and asked me what was wrong with it, I could have spent weeks and never come up with a Star of David. Whereas for me, it jumped right off the screen… ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/113 "2016-07-06T13:47:25Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I consider myself reasonably well educated, but had you shown me that tweet and asked me what was wrong with it, I could have spent weeks and never come up with a Star of David. > > As others have said, when has Trump even hinted at any sort of animus towards Jewish people? I think the whole thing plays into his “This country has gone off the deep end with political correctness” line. A major party presidential candidate somehow finds an image from an anti-semitic group containing anti-semitic images and broadcasts it, and you don’t find that at least a bit disturbing? But then he refuses to admit it, and condemn it? He makes loony excuses? That’s the issue. Even if Trump doesn’t hate Jews, he won’t condemn those who do. And it’s not the first time. It’s incredibly irresponsible to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/114 "2016-07-06T14:35:52Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I consider myself reasonably well educated, but had you shown me that tweet and asked me what was wrong with it, I could have spent weeks and never come up with a Star of David. I’m a Midwestern WASP, and to me, it was clearly an intentional use of the Star of David. _shrug_ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/115 "2016-07-06T14:53:16Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > New Trump hat slogan: > > “Not racist. Just stupid.” Somewhere in the basement of Trump’s campaign headquarters lies a pallet of cardboard boxes, one of which was torn open to reveal tightly-packed stacks of red baseball caps embroidered with **MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGIN** and somewhere else is a hat vendor left with an unpaid invoice, who made the grave mistake of following directions. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/116 "2016-07-06T15:25:21Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > For people who haven’t heard, Saturday Trump sent out a tweet of an image of Hillary Clinton superimposed over a bunch of money and a Star of David with the message “the most corrupt candidate ever”. He would very quickly delete the tweet and then replace it with the same image with a photoshopped circle where the Star of David was. > > He’d also send out another tweet squealing the “dishonest media” which he said was trying to depict what’s obviously “a Sherif’s star” as a Star of David. > > Now leaving aside the fact that Sheriff’s stars are almost always six pointed and even when they’re not they usually have circles at the edge of each point, is anyone other than the army of imbeciles who make up his base going to buy his story? What, did he imply that she was the puppet of “Big sheriffs”? Will this be the straw that finally breaks the camel’s back and causes the Republicans to finally dump him? Or do people think that this is a story that will soon be forgotten just because it happened over Fourth of July weekend when people were concentrating on other things? > > Here’s a link. > > [Donald Trump's 'Star of David' Tweet About Hillary Clinton Posted Weeks Earlier on Racist Feed](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-star-david-tweet-about-hillary-clinton-posted-n603161) > > For anyone, particularly non-Americans who wonder what Sheriff’s stars normally look like. > > [http://epcounty.com/CS/blogs/sheriff\_news/SheriffBadge\_2D3B7A66.gif](http://epcounty.com/CS/blogs/sheriff_news/SheriffBadge_2D3B7A66.gif) > > And yes, you’ll notice in the NBC news link where he got the image from. FYI - Law enforcement, police, sheriff, and deputy badges can be had in 5, 6, and 7 point configurations. A six pointed star does not automatically indicate, or suggest, a Star of David. Unless people are looking for something to whine about during an election. [https://www.nles.com/5-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/5-pt-Star-Badges/) [https://www.nles.com/6-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/6-pt-Star-Badges/) [https://www.nles.com/7-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/7-pt-Star-Badges/) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/117 "2016-07-06T15:35:52Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > FYI - Law enforcement, police, sheriff, and deputy badges can be had in 5, 6, and 7 point configurations. A six pointed star does not automatically indicate, or suggest, a Star of David. Unless people are looking for something to whine about during an election. > > [https://www.nles.com/5-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/5-pt-Star-Badges/) > > [https://www.nles.com/6-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/6-pt-Star-Badges/) > > [https://www.nles.com/7-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/7-pt-Star-Badges/) First sentence is true enough. Second, not so much. They copied the tweet from a white supremacist site, and the anti-Semite message was very much intended. He could have avoided the whole mess by hiring staff who can do their own research and create their own graphics and not act like our Reich wing Facebook friends and simply forward memes they agree with… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/118 "2016-07-06T15:38:53Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Somewhere in the basement of Trump’s campaign headquarters lies a pallet of cardboard boxes, one of which was torn open to reveal tightly-packed stacks of red baseball caps embroidered with > > **MAKE AMERICA > GRATE AGIN** > and somewhere else is a hat vendor left with an unpaid invoice, who made the grave mistake of following directions. Actually, there’s a pizza place by me that might be interested in purchasing those at a discount-- their sign out front currently reads “Ban shredded cheese-- Make America grate again!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/119 "2016-07-06T17:20:04Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > FYI - Law enforcement, police, sheriff, and deputy badges can be had in 5, 6, and 7 point configurations. A six pointed star does not automatically indicate, or suggest, a Star of David. Unless people are looking for something to whine about during an election. > > [https://www.nles.com/5-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/5-pt-Star-Badges/) > > [https://www.nles.com/6-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/6-pt-Star-Badges/) > > [https://www.nles.com/7-pt-Star-Badges/](https://www.nles.com/7-pt-Star-Badges/) And all the 5/6 point stars have little balls on each point that are associated with LEO badges. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/120 "2016-07-06T17:30:38Z")
If someone were simply adding a cut and paste graphic to a tweet, most likely he would have picked the “default” configuration most easily recognized as a “star”: five points, with one point directly upward. To choose another is a deliberate act. And why was it placed against a field of money? I am perfectly willing to accept that the original design was intended to insinuate some sort of Jewish influence that the “staffer” did not actually recognize. Stupid, tone-deaf, but not necessarily malicious. And I don’t think Trump hates Jewish people, he simply operates under unexamined stereotypes like “You guys are great negotiators!” A more benign form, like poison ivy compared to skin cancer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090.md?page=7)