# Trump's Star of David tweet **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 4, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090 "2016-07-04T19:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/141 "2016-07-06T19:59:19Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > What’s this? The 7 point stars don’t have little balls on each point? Are you suggesting that a LEO department can personalize their choice? In America? That’s incredible. :rolleyes: > > People who wanted to see a Star of David, or needed to see a Star of David, saw a Star of David. > > _Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown/politics. > -Lawrence Walsh, one of Gittes’s associates_ If Trump and his chumps were in the middle of Iowa, I could see it. In the middle of New York, no way. I saw the Star of David immediately, but then I’m Jewish so clearly unqualified to judge. I’m looking forward to your justification of Trump’s love of Saddam. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/142 "2016-07-06T20:06:24Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > If Trump and his chumps were in the middle of Iowa, I could see it. In the middle of New York, no way. I saw the Star of David immediately, but then I’m Jewish so clearly unqualified to judge. I’m not Jewish, am from the Midwest, and I don’t particularly know a whole lot of Jewish people, nor do I think I’m particularly “politically correct,” easy to offend, or any somesuch stuff, yet I saw a Star of David immediately as well. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/143 "2016-07-06T21:10:32Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > What’s this? The 7 point stars don’t have little balls on each point? Are you suggesting that a LEO department can personalize their choice? In America? That’s incredible. :rolleyes: > > People who wanted to see a Star of David, or needed to see a Star of David, saw a Star of David. > > _Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown/politics. > -Lawrence Walsh, one of Gittes’s associates_ Funny, Paul Ryan thought it was anti-Semitic and offensive. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/144 "2016-07-06T21:29:10Z")
Next step from here is: “Those who are Jewish are not qualified to judge whether it is a star of david or not. This bias is very very unfair.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/145 "2016-07-06T21:30:58Z")
It boggles my mind how some folks are able to tell Jewish people, “no, you’re wrong, that’s not about Jews at all - that’s not even a star of David!” with a straight face. What, we’re only allowed to be offended now that there’s hard evidence of the picture’s provenence? Guess what? It was offensive the whole damned time, and next time maybe, just maybe, take someone from the affected group at their word. The picture was ALWAYS antisemitic and it would have been even if the evidence had never surfaced. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/146 "2016-07-06T21:33:38Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > What’s this? The 7 point stars don’t have little balls on each point? Are you suggesting that a LEO department can personalize their choice? In America? That’s incredible. :rolleyes: > > People who wanted to see a Star of David, or needed to see a Star of David, saw a Star of David. > > _Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown/politics. > -Lawrence Walsh, one of Gittes’s associates_ Funded fact I learned the other day. George Wallace (the former Governor of Alabama, not the comedian) actually invented this response to being caught dog whistling. It’s really super effective don’t you think? It’s neat that old school political techniques like this are still getting play. For what it’s worth, based on his history, I would say George Wallace probably wasn’t racist either. Prior to him wanting to win elections he had a record of being pro integration! But he sure wanted the votes of racists. So he said it loud and proud “segregation today, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever!” Great politician Wallace was. Bet he tried to get Martin Luther King to pay for the wall he wanted to build between all the black and white neighborhoods. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/147 "2016-07-06T21:46:15Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > It boggles my mind how some folks are able to tell Jewish people, “no, you’re wrong, that’s not about Jews at all - that’s not even a star of David!” with a straight face. > > What, we’re only allowed to be offended now that there’s hard evidence of the picture’s provenence? Guess what? It was offensive the whole damned time, and next time maybe, just maybe, take someone from the affected group at their word. The picture was ALWAYS antisemitic and it would have been even if the evidence had never surfaced. In my case, all the first whiffs of complaints about the anti-semitism of the picture weren’t from Jews or Jewish organizations at all, they were from a motley mix of people in my Facebook feed, most of whom are happy to mock Trump for anything. Secondly, the provenance of the picture doesn’t prove that it was anti-semitic. It proves that it was _intended to be_ anti-semitic. That’s a pretty material difference, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/148 "2016-07-06T21:49:09Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And all the 5/6 point stars have little balls on each point that are associated with LEO badges. Not quite all of them. [https://www.nles.com/3-1-4-in.-6-Point-Star-Smith-and-Warren-Badge-S325A.html](https://www.nles.com/3-1-4-in.-6-Point-Star-Smith-and-Warren-Badge-S325A.html) ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/149 "2016-07-06T21:56:20Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Funded fact I learned the other day. Stupid auto correct. That should have said FUN FACT. No one sponsored my post. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/150 "2016-07-06T22:03:58Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > Secondly, the provenance of the picture doesn’t prove that it was anti-semitic. It proves that it was _intended to be_ anti-semitic. That’s a pretty material difference, IMHO. Do me a solid and explain why that’s so important? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/151 "2016-07-06T22:07:45Z")
It makes it intentional, not inadvertent. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/152 "2016-07-06T22:10:17Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I agree. My wife was not aware of this story a couple nights ago. I showed her the image without any preface. I asked her what she thought of it, and she rolled her eyes at the “most corrupt” label being applied to Clinton. And that was it. The antisemitic content didn’t register with her at all. My wife is super damned smart. She’s a doctor and trained at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, where the majority of her coworkers were Jewish. She doesn’t work there anymore but still encounters Jewish people in the medical profession routinely. We currently live in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. My wife is very socially liberal and concerned about treating everyone with respect and dignity. But she just didn’t see the symbolism that was so obvious to me. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > …But _other_ folks may look at that sentence and see an offer to buy Donald Trump a delicious banana split at the local ice-cream parlor; my treat! > [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > I’m in a similar boat to your wife and **UltraVires** - I just didn’t see it as a Star of David originally. It was - to use Trump’s term - just a “plain star.” In processing the controversy, it did seem like a stretch - Stars of David are interlocking triangles, right? > > Then came the news about the origins of the tweet. Now I think it’s completely clear that this is a dog whistle I just didn’t hear. It’s possible neither Trump nor his staff heard it either. But their unwillingness to admit error and back down is extremely problematic. And the context of a campaign that is consistently swimming in some hate-infested waters is also costing them any benefit-of-doubt a normal campaign would get. > [@Voyager](#): > > If Trump and his chumps were in the middle of Iowa, I could see it. In the middle of New York, no way. I saw the Star of David immediately, but then I’m Jewish so clearly unqualified to judge. > I’m looking forward to your justification of Trump’s love of Saddam. > [@pulykamell](#): > > I’m not Jewish, am from the Midwest, and I don’t particularly know a whole lot of Jewish people, nor do I think I’m particularly “politically correct,” easy to offend, or any somesuch stuff, yet I saw a Star of David immediately as well. > [@drad\_dog](#): > > Next step from here is: > > “Those who are Jewish are not qualified to judge whether it is a star of david or not. This bias is very very unfair.” > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > It boggles my mind how some folks are able to tell Jewish people, “no, you’re wrong, that’s not about Jews at all - that’s not even a star of David!” with a straight face. > > What, we’re only allowed to be offended now that there’s hard evidence of the picture’s provenence? Guess what? It was offensive the whole damned time, and next time maybe, just maybe, take someone from the affected group at their word. The picture was ALWAYS antisemitic and it would have been even if the evidence had never surfaced. (posts shortened) Do any of you even know what an actual Star of David looks like? It’s not as if every 6-pointed star qualifies as a SOD. > **[Star Of David Stock Photos and Images - 123RF](https://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/star_of_david.html)** > > Your star of david stock images are here. Download photos for free or search from millions of HD quality photos, illustrations and vectors. Use them in your designs and social media posts. Thousands of new and contemporary pictures added daily. You see what you want to see. You may also see what other people tell you to see? hmmmmm? Those who decided to be offended made their whine known and the 6 pointed star was changed to something else. Problem/misconception was identified AND was immediately corrected. Problem solved - unless it can be used as a political squawking point. Woo Hoo - I’m going to **The Other Waldo Pepper** ’s for free ice cream!!! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/153 "2016-07-06T22:13:10Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (posts shortened) > > Do any of you even know what an actual Star of David looks like? It’s not as if every 6-pointed star qualifies as a SOD. > > [Star Of David Stock Photos and Images - 123RF](http://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/star_of_david.html) Do you know how to put text inside of it and to make it readable? The answer for that is what the guys in the racist site arrived with. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/154 "2016-07-06T22:15:21Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Stupid auto correct. That should have said FUN FACT. No one sponsored my post. :smack: Good luck getting the Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers to allow you to correct any errors you may have made. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/155 "2016-07-06T22:16:10Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Do me a solid and explain why that’s so important? Yeah, what Elvis said. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/156 "2016-07-06T22:18:33Z")
Trumps antics are a lot more understandable when you see them as examples of [the dead cat strategy.](https://ausvotes2016.com.au/2016/05/18/peter-dutton-throws-a-dead-cat/) Dead cat strategy is a diversionary tactic used in politics. Picture a dinner table, and the conversation is going somewhere you don’t want it to go. To divert everyone, do something strange and revolting, like throwing a dead cat in the middle of the dinner table. Guarantee that everyone will talk about the dead cat and why you would do such a crazy thing. Repeat as necessary. Trump never runs out of dead cats. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/157 "2016-07-06T22:21:02Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Do you know how to put text inside of it and to make it readable? > > The answer for that is what the guys in the racist site arrived with. Hahahaha. Seriously? Are you actually asking me to advise you on how you can create a racist Star of David meme of your very own? That ain’t gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/158 "2016-07-06T22:21:04Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (posts shortened) > > Do any of you even know what an actual Star of David looks like? It’s not as if every 6-pointed star qualifies as a SOD. > > [Star Of David Stock Photos and Images - 123RF](http://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/star_of_david.html) > > You see what you want to see. You may also see what other people tell you to see? hmmmmm? [Here](http://www.holocaustcenter.org/holocaust-badges) are some more. You may find two of them to be of special interest. > [@](#): > > Those who decided to be offended made their whine known and the 6 pointed star was changed to something else. Problem/misconception was identified AND was immediately corrected. Problem solved - unless it can be used as a political squawking point. The ‘problem’ that was identified and corrected was the message that was sent. Which, apparently, was the message that was intended by its creator. If someone like Trump disagrees with that message, he should _mention_ it when removing it; takes a moment, takes a single _sentence,_ he could’ve ended the ‘squawking’ on Day One. > [@](#): > > Woo Hoo - I’m going to **The Other Waldo Pepper** ’s for free ice cream!!! Why? Are you outing yourself as Donald Trump? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/159 "2016-07-06T22:23:45Z")
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090/160 "2016-07-06T22:25:34Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. Seriously? Are you actually asking me to advise you on how you can create a racist Star of David meme of your very own? That ain’t gonna happen. :rolleyes: Not my problem if you want to let others know how whooshed you can get. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-star-of-david-tweet/759090.md?page=9)