# Trumps to boycott Fox ... he tweets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365 "2015-09-24T02:55:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/1 "2015-09-24T02:55:54Z")

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It’s really pretty fascinating, in so may ways. [Link.](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/23/donald-trump-quits-fox-news-again-after-oreilly-appearance-is-canceled/)

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> Mr. Trump said he felt that Fox News had been treating him “very unfairly” and he had “therefore decided that I won’t be doing any more Fox shows for the foreseeable future.” …
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> … “The press predictably jumped to cover his tweet, creating yet another distraction from any real issues that Mr. Trump might be questioned about,” Fox News said in a statement. “When coverage doesn’t go his way, he engages in personal attacks on our anchors and hosts, which has grown stale and tiresome. He doesn’t seem to grasp that candidates telling journalists what to ask is not how the media works in this country.”
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> Shortly after, the Trump campaign released a statement of its own, saying that Mr. Trump stood by his tweet.
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> “As a candidate for president of the United States and the definitive front-runner in every poll, both nationally and state wide, including the just released poll in the state of Florida, Mr. Trump expects to be treated fairly,” the statement read. “All you have to do is look at the tremendous ratings last night from ‘The Late Show’ with Stephen Colbert, where Mr. Trump was the guest, or the ratings from both debates, to fully understand the facts.”

Fox has, for all their misinformation, been viewed by many of the far Right as their single source for news and their trusted source [for news](http://www.journalism.org/2014/10/21/political-polarization-media-habits/).

Will this undermine Fox’s trustworthiness in the eyes of “the base”?

Will it push any of his supporters see him as a petulant brat?

Nice confirmation that ratings are the currency that Trump trades in.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/2 "2015-09-24T03:00:54Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Will this undermine Fox’s trustworthiness in the eyes of “the base”?
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> Will it push any of his supporters see him as a petulant brat?

I for one hope it is a portent of the end of days for this particular iteration of the Republican Party, wherein the nastier components of the far right start to tear each other apart like starving rats in a bucket.

The Sane Republicans can then take the party back, and hopefully always remember the time they tried to make a bargain with the nut-cases, and ended up being taken over by them.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/3 "2015-09-24T03:38:58Z")

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Didn’t he boycott them and then make up with them before? I think maybe twice even, but definitely at least once.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/4 "2015-09-24T08:16:37Z")

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It should only boister his supporters. “Yeah! Fuck this, fuck that, fuck left fuck FOX… oh wait. Let me make out with O’Reilly before I’m dragged out!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/5 "2015-09-24T08:42:21Z")

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> **[Rich Lowry Tells Megyn Kelly: Carly Fiorina Cut Donald Trump's 'Balls Off Like...](https://crooksandliars.com/2015/09/rich-lowry-tells-megan-kelly-carly-fiorina)**
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> The National Review's editor, Rich Lowry lost his mind on The Kelly File and referenced Trump's tesitcles on air.

**Rich Lowry Tells Megyn Kelly: Carly Fiorina Cut Donald Trump’s ‘Balls Off Like A Surgeon’**

Comment is superfluous.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/6 "2015-09-24T08:55:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> [Rich Lowry Tells Megyn Kelly: Carly Fiorina Cut Donald Trump's 'Balls Off Like A Surgeon' | Crooks and Liars](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/09/rich-lowry-tells-megan-kelly-carly-fiorina)
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> **Rich Lowry Tells Megyn Kelly: Carly Fiorina Cut Donald Trump’s ‘Balls Off Like A Surgeon’**
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> Comment is superfluous.

From that article, Trump tweeted:

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> Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!

Advocating for government regulation of free enterprise? Don’t let your supporters hear you talking that way, Donald.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/7 "2015-09-24T10:19:43Z")

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The FCC should fine Lowry for what, exactly? :rolleyes: What rule does Fuckface Von Clownstick think was broken? :dubious:

We have waaaaaay too many POTUS candidates this time around who seem to know almost nothing about the Constitution or the law, IMO.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/8 "2015-09-24T11:11:48Z")

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> "He doesn’t seem to grasp that candidates telling journalists what to ask is not how the media works in this country.”

Well that’s changed since the White House claims of WMD.

When did the press stop cowering?

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/9 "2015-09-24T11:31:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The Sane Republicans can then take the party back, and hopefully always remember the time they tried to make a bargain with the nut-cases, and ended up being taken over by them.

Which Sane Republicans would those be ?

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/10 "2015-09-24T11:39:22Z")

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In this recent thread, we look [at Trump-like politicians in other countries](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=769358) to see if they truly got elected, and if so, how they did. there are plenty of examples.

So, if I look at what recent history teaches us, I have good news and bad news. The bad news: yes, people like Trump get elected. Trump probably will, too.

However, recent history teaches us that once in power, he will be sidelined by more experienced politicians. And he will concentrate himself on the few issues he really cares about, and let the rest take care of itself. Berlusconi, for instance, cared mainly about changing the law so he could postpone his own persecution. Berlusconi also had already bought most of the press before he went into politics (and that fact is relevant to this particular thread, which is about Trump vs Fox) . The few business-moguls that say they will run the country more efficient then the politicians, have never been proven right.

So the good news is, such politicians usually don’t matter much in the great scheme of things. They are not good for a country, but not desastrous either. And they are entertaining, and they do accomplish that the non-intellectual part of the voters feels heard. But they can’t keep it up, can’t make real results (usually because what they want is against the law and against the constitution) and they usually slink back into obscurity after too many embarrassing fights, gaffes and incidents. And after that, the country is usually cured if its need for a populist politician for about two terms. And after that seven years, there is space for a new populist.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/11 "2015-09-24T11:45:40Z")

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the washington post has an [article comparing Trump and Berlusconi.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/21/donald-trump-is-americas-silvio-berlusconi/)

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/12 "2015-09-24T12:52:35Z")

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This really feels more like following his core constituency than leading. There’s already been comments among them that they have been boycotting Fox or at least specific Fox personalities. It will be interesting what effect this has on the free air time for candidates. Fox is obviously going to keep filling it’s schedule sliding more air time to those that will be interviewed. More news oriented shows that aren’t Fox are even less likely to play ball with his wish to restrict questioning. They might restrict coverage to avoid the hassle or they jump in both feet and we’ll see follow on media fights/boycotts. That could end up restricting him to more entertainment focused talk shows.

In early primary campaign season where name recognition and air time has a lot to do with poll numbers Trump’s ridden both to leads. It will be interesting to see how changing the dynamic as we get in to serious campaign time affects things.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/13 "2015-09-24T13:03:25Z")

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Trump seems to think that “campaigning” is an endless string of petty Twitter beefs. I guess his celebrity-crazed followers find that entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/14 "2015-09-24T14:33:17Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> This really feels more like following his core constituency than leading. There’s already been comments among them that they have been boycotting Fox or at least specific Fox personalities. It will be interesting what effect this has on the free air time for candidates. Fox is obviously going to keep filling it’s schedule sliding more air time to those that will be interviewed. More news oriented shows that aren’t Fox are even less likely to play ball with his wish to restrict questioning. They might restrict coverage to avoid the hassle or they jump in both feet and we’ll see follow on media fights/boycotts. That could end up restricting him to more entertainment focused talk shows.
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> In early primary campaign season where name recognition and air time has a lot to do with poll numbers Trump’s ridden both to leads. It will be interesting to see how changing the dynamic as we get in to serious campaign time affects things.

What will be REALLY interesting is if Trump wins the nomination and continues his boycott of Fox. Or even more interesting, if he encourages his followers to do the same.

I have to admit, I would relish Fox getting hoisted on it’s own petard like that.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/15 "2015-09-24T14:41:56Z")

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I think Fox and Trump will kiss and make up shortly, just like the last time.

And the make up sex…

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/16 "2015-09-24T14:59:50Z")

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Maybe they will kiss and make up, but the first cracks show in the mutual admiration society.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/17 "2015-09-24T15:51:59Z")

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My only regret is that somebody is going to win this confrontation.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/18 "2015-09-24T16:28:16Z")

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Actually this is one in which they both lose I think.

Honestly this election season reminds more and more of the Black Mirror episode “The Waldo Moment” … which wasn’t even a very good ep, but captures the process I think.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/19 "2015-09-24T17:20:30Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Trump seems to think that “campaigning” is an endless string of petty Twitter beefs. I guess his celebrity-crazed followers find that entertaining.

Yes I certainly hope silly twitter arguments don’t gain popularity outside of Trump’s crazed followers.

I wonder if Trump is of a mind to play hardball on this boycott. Like specifically scheduling interviews on competing networks during Fox shows he specifically wants to mess with. Like say when Megyn Kelly was doing a Jeb interview.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-to-boycott-fox-he-tweets/732365/20 "2015-09-24T17:23:02Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Which Sane Republicans would those be ?

I believe they call themselves “Independents” at the moment.

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