# Trump's trial just ended--let's predict the verdict! (Verdict is Guilty on All Counts May 30, 2024)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 29, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224 "2024-05-29T11:01:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/101 "2024-05-31T00:28:51Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Catturd may have exploded.

Two gifts in one day? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/102 "2024-05-31T00:33:30Z")

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> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> I’m concerned the way this might go, pretty much the whole GOP is saying Trump is innocent and is the target of a witch hunt. The implication being if the democrats have done this in an attempt to stop Trump getting elected they will do that tto prevent democrats getting elected. In 2020 Biden and most other republicans refused to back Trump’s claims that the election was rigged.

Last I knew, Biden wasn’t a Republican.

And you’re concerned that Republicans are saying what they’ve already been saying for years? Why?

Because they’ll try to steal the 2024 election? As they tried in 2020 and were indicted for?

None of your concerns are about anything new, nor do they have _anything_ to do with this case.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/103 "2024-05-31T00:37:49Z")

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The Republicans will say a lot of things. The more zealous may even believe them, in private. Fifty years from now, if still a democracy, there may finally be some soul searching about what happens when the intellectual principles of a traditional party are sacrificed wholesale to an empty cult of personality. Or perhaps efforts to learn anew how to locate the spine.

Trump still has a chance of winning, of course. Maybe something more than mere pettifoggery will be accomplished. Don’t hold your breath.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/104 "2024-05-31T00:40:51Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@bordelond](#):
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> > Probation.
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> Followed swiftly by violation of conditions.  
> Followed even more swiftly by a move to Rikers.

Well, yeh, that’s the thing about probation; it comes with real consequences if the conditions are violated.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/105 "2024-05-31T00:55:08Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> I’m concerned the way this might go, pretty much the whole GOP is saying Trump is innocent and is the target of a witch hunt.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Last I knew, Biden wasn’t a Republican.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> The Republicans will say a lot of things.

It’s a day of high emotions, and as such I haven’t been as stern about hijacks as usual. But this thread is getting far off track. We have lots of other threads to discuss these issues. Please take the conversations to those and leave this one for posterity. Such as it is. Thanks.

The verdict has been predicted and is now in the tank. There really shouldn’t be much more to say in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/106 "2024-05-31T00:58:28Z")

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Oops don’t know why I put Biden, I meant to say Pence.

Concerns are not new but in years past most Republicans were willing to accept the decisions of the people and the courts. If George W Bush was convicted of a felony the GOP would have rejected him.

MAGA has been trying to get Biden put in court over his handling of secret documents and Hunter’s tax. I’m not in the US so not sure if it has been mentioned but will all future elections be fought in the courts as every presential candidate has several charges brought against them by prosecuters with a leaning toward the other party?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/107 "2024-05-31T01:00:07Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> Oops don’t know why I put Biden, I meant to say Pence.

Please don’t ignore the mod note issued just above this post. It’s time to drop the hijack in this thread.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/108 "2024-05-31T01:08:51Z")

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I bet everyone will be tuned in on July 11th!

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/109 "2024-05-31T02:26:31Z")

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Need to start a Trump is Convicted-Let’s Pedict the Sentence thread. 🕶

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/110 "2024-05-31T02:37:01Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Need to start a Trump is Convicted-Let’s Pedict the Sentence thread. 🕶 -

There ya go. 🙂

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/111 "2024-05-31T02:50:12Z")

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I like this parody version of this famous Doomesbury strip even better:

> [@Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5382):
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> [[image] ](https://usrimg-425.fark.net/k/ka/fark_ka-TbGfkW8b8hJpKsvChD2kFQzE.png?AWSAccessKeyId=JO3ELGV4BGLFW7Y3EZXN&Expires=1717387200&Signature=kyEkBgyLdn3SCPJoT3AY%2FWpGc6g%3D)

Guilty on all 34 counts! 😊

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/112 "2024-05-31T02:52:28Z")

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Now that the trial has actually just ended, I will confidently postdict that the result is guilty.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/113 "2024-05-31T07:28:04Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> > I’m not sure I have ever seen The New York Times use such a large font. ⁢
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> Font? That’s not a font. [This is a font](https://www.huffpost.com/). ⁢

Wow. That looks like one of those crappy, homemade sites that I’ve seen linked by MAGA people. If that aesthetic was intentional, then my hats off to them.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/114 "2024-05-31T08:05:54Z")

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That font literally gave me a jump scare. 😆

Great news on the verdict! I was skeptical it would end this way, but I’m glad it has. Now come the predictable claims of lawfare and political persecution. His cultists were never going to accept this result.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/115 "2024-05-31T08:17:45Z")

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> [@Boudicca90](#):
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> Now come the predictable claims of lawfare and political persecution. His cultists were never going to accept this result.

I do keep my eye on a right-wing/MAGA message board, but I have not checked it in at least the last ten hours. I’m afraid to. Note that I mostly read and rarely post there, but still. I don’t need to read comments about “Biden’s doing!” and “Lawfare!” and “Corruption!” and especially threats against anybody and everybody who is not a part of Team Trump.

It’s late here, but I’ll have another nightcap, and another puff on my pipe, and watch the end of a silly DVD movie; and go to bed without being riled up by all that crap on that other message board. Looking after my mental health, is all.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/116 "2024-05-31T13:36:20Z")

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Just because.

> **[‘Guilty on all counts’: how the world’s media reacted to the Trump trial’s...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/31/donald-trump-hush-money-trial-verdict-media-reaction)**
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> The former president appears on front pages across the globe on Friday, as the world’s media takes in the unprecedented outcome of the hush-money trial

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/117 "2024-05-31T13:49:32Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> I’ve been quiet for a long time because, frankly, my politics have changed so completely that I wouldn’t even know how to proceed and people would think my account had been hijacked.
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> But for this, I’m posting on the side of the angels because it’s a momentous occasion and never before have we had such a despicable, loathsome creature threatening the very foundation of our country. Those facts alone compel me to comment upon it.

I think I have a harder time believing anyone could continue to support such a despicable loathsome creature, so you’d have been ok with me. As a matter of fact, if you once supported trump, I’d love to know what your turning point was. Maybe it could help to turn others.

Anyway, I hope you’ll feel free to post. Your voice has been missed.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/118 "2024-05-31T14:29:57Z")

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Well, he finally won the popular vote.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/119 "2024-05-31T15:08:09Z")

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I’ve gotten a few parking/speeding tickets, which I took care of in a timely manner, but I’ve never had a felony conviction. Hell, I’ve never even been charged with a felony!

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-trial-just-ended-lets-predict-the-verdict-verdict-is-guilty-on-all-counts-may-30-2024/1002224/120 "2024-05-31T15:10:14Z")

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I hope Kevin is on speed dial. This is the sort of situation where he’s too upset to eat.

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