# Truthers and conspiracy theorists

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truthers-and-conspiracy-theorists/633174
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [August 30, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truthers-and-conspiracy-theorists/633174 "2012-08-30T18:54:48Z")
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### Author: ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/truthers-and-conspiracy-theorists/633174/149 "2013-12-11T19:58:00Z")

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> [@psikeyhackr](#):
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> That makes no sense. Where did I say anything about expecting every psychologist to perform Pavlov’s experiment?

It was heavily implied (see below).

> [@psikeyhackr](#):
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> So shouldn’t psychologists expect physicists to perform experiments to determine if the top 15% or less of a skyscraper could fall straight down and destroy the intact structure below?

Yes, it’s called Civil Engineering. And they do know what would happen and have pretty good models (verified by experiment) to explain them.

Why do you call for these experiments and models to be repeated and done again?

The problem is that you don’t accept those results. That’s the same as denying the results of Pavlov’s experiment and calling for them to be performed again, to answer whatever inane and specific objection you had.

Why the double standard? Why accept results in one field but not another? Your question makes no sense, since it simply assumes (without proof, I might add) that there is no physical model for how skyscrapers work and how they can fail under certain conditions. That’s not true. Those models exist, and they’re pretty good. If you don’t want to accept the results of those experiments, it’s on you to show where they fail.

ETA: From another thread but it applies here equally well.

When would _you_ have us accept a result?

> [@Flouride - dental savior or poison?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flouride-dental-savior-or-poison/675744/100):
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> Yes but we need more studies. More. More, more, more. More, more, more, more more. We need to keep doing studies until paranoids can find one that suggests they are right. Then we will have done enough studies.

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