TSA, Police and FBI handcuff and detain student for possessing arabic flashcards

Local article on it. My favorite bit is this:

I suppose the alternate explanation, that the person got a fucking haircut, isn’t as likely.

In my experience, the TSA staff in Philadelphia is particularly stupid. There was another incident several years ago (can’t find a cite) where they were questioning a guy with a small spray bottle of cologne (this was pre-liquids ban). He sprayed them with it. They let him go. The TSA agents went off duty, and IIRC, went from the airport to a donut shop before finally deciding that maybe letting a “suspect” spray them was a great idea.

And I get pulled for extra screening in Philly all the time, which I’ve never been able to understand (because of course the five-foot-tall white chick wearing jeans and a tank top fits the profile of a terrorist).

Well you are da bomb! :smiley:

Reminds me of the final scene with David Morse in Twelve Monkeys.

My former brother-in-law said that the security gates at terminals are jokes (this was pre-9/11, but I think he still holds this opinion), hiring people that couldn’t get other jobs.

My thought is that they’re there so that we can’t bring our own, relatively inexpensive drinks onto planes, but have to by $2.50 bottles of soda at the inside vendors.

Of course, pretty much all the information in that article comes from the ACLU complaint and ACLU statements.

اليوم التفجير. أدب أعددت

According to Babelfish, that means I prepared Explosive Runes today. in Arabic.

This guy’s trying to learn Arabic. So he must be an Arabic terrorist. :confused:

My sister and I flew up together for my grandfathers funeral. I’m 6’0" about 230 lbs. and at that time had long hair in a ponytail and a beard. I also got the dark complexion from my dad’s side of the family. I could have easily passed for someone named Abdul Ibn Rachin. Oh and since my drivers license was so old and back from when I was clean-shaven and haircutted I bore only a faint resemblance to me. My sister is a total opposite. Short, thin and as Anglo as they get.

Guess who got pulled out for an extended screening. Give you a hint - it wasn’t me. Actually the TSA guy laughed as I was waiting there when I said they picked her to show they WEREN’T racially profiling.

Boy, times sure have changed, haven’t they? Used to be it was long-haired hippie radicals who would get hassled; now it’s short-haired Muslim radicals.

Oh sweet guys, this is awesome. Who’s got the kleenex to clean up the jizz after we all masturbate all over each other in this thread? I hope the OP brought it, it’s only proper. Yep, no reason to think there could possibly be any other facts that are relevant to this situation. Nope, the ACLU’s web site is the most objective observer and report of facts possible. Man, I love a good circle jerk, this is freakin’ sweet guys!@@@!!!

Beat to the punch!

Well, here’s FOX News’ version of events. If anyone would have uncovered anything to counter or round out the ACLU article, it’s FOX News. The best they got was the TSA saying, “Oh him? He was acting suspiciously. No seriously, we had our eyes on him alllll along.”

Hey Beadalin, did you bring the K-Y Intense? I been meaning to try that stuff in my next circle jerk.

Well, if they’d checked him out in the netherlands, they should have found it, no?

I will testify to that. I had a run-in at the same airport in late July, 2009 over something in my bag that was within the rules and had made it through security no problem during my outbound flight from California 2 weeks prior.

As will probably surprise no one following my antics here the last couple of days, I spoke up and asked questions. It took a while, and I had a while because I was at lest 4 hours early for my flight. It ended probably with me one sneeze away from getting arrested over questioning my rights and trying to ascertain what the actual rules were.

I left without the actual item in question, which like the flashcards, was of nominal value.

I don’t know if this happened at the same entrance or not, but I was definitely surrounded by guys up to 3 levels higher than the folks who normally screen you and including some plain clothes guys hanging around too. All of it was civil in the sense that no one was rude or impertinent.

For a while, the officers were polite to a fault, but in the end they couldn’t or wouldn’t produce the actual rule they were claiming to invoke, and which everyone claimed the next guy higher up had. That is how I got so many levels up - playing on their politeness and insisting politely that they follow through when they said their superior has it or would know who has it.

Eventually they realized I would call their bluff all the way up - I had four hours - and they got menacing. It was interesting to see and observe. I recommend you watch around the terminal area sometime, if only for a minute after you pass through. Once I decided I had had enough menacing, I thanked them politely for their time, gave them the item as a parting gift, which they promptly trashed without ever explaining why it was a problem, and was on my way.

So good for them that only a few weeks later they went overboard. Had I been carrying the wrong book off my bookshelf, that could’ve been me. I hope they all are brought to bear for the preposterous security theater they perform every single day.

PS - for those of you who have been my “fans” the last couple of days, you might enjoy, as Paul Harvey said, “the rest of the story”:

After spending a boring 4 hours in the terminal, finally my flight loaded and pushed away. Ours was the last plane to push away before a large thunderstorm rolled in, and we sat on the tarmac for > 2 hours. We didn’t even take off until after I had already missed my connection in Ohio. That set off a mad scramble that took me for an overnight (4 hours in the hotel) layover in Chicago, then Phoenix, Burbank, and San Jose followed by a four hour drive home. It was miserable. Thought I’d share so my “fans” can laugh :slight_smile:

Hey not_alice, I love it how you (i) don’t tell us what the item is and (ii) of course don’t share any possible other facts that could be relevant. Oh yeah, that’s the good stuff. I also like it how, much like the situation in the OP, you treat being stopped at the airport like the most heinous thing possible ever. Hot damn, I may break through the ceiling here in a minute!!!

Probably not. That guy is unambiguously male.

If I may be serious for a minute . . .

The “thinking” in this thread is a lot like some of the criticism against health insurance companies we hear from liberal douches in the debate over health care reform. To wit: no one wants to have a dude with a bomb on their plane, but no one wants to be bothered at the airport either. Similarly, everyone whats health care costs to be reduced, but everyone gets pissed off when their insurance company argues about costs with their health care provider.

Now let’s get back to masturbating like a motherfuck!

Granted, we haven’t heard the TSA’s side of the story yet, but IF this went down anything like what has been alleged (and I would point out the young man in question has not been arrested or anything like that):

No, I don’t want someone to smuggle a bomb on any airplane I’m flying on (or even an airplane the rest of y’all are flying on). But a set of flashcards for learning Arabic are not a bomb; cannot be made into a bomb; and are not even a particularly good indication that the person in question has a bomb. A security reaction like that described in this thread is not only an infringement on our personal freedom; it’s also stupid, counterproductive, and a totally idiotic waste of resources. I presume the TSA doesn’t have an infinite number of agents, which means that if multiple TSA agents are standing around grilling some guy solely on the basis that he has Arabic-language flashcards, the number of TSA agents available to catch actual terrorists with actual weapons in that airport is diminished by that much.

Oh yeah MEBuckner, that’s just the final jolt I needed. That’s awesome how you assumed that the only thing the TSA agents focused on was the flash cards, which is just what the ACLU article did. Glory in 3 . . . .2 . … 1 . SWEET JESUS!!!