# TubaDiva: How the heck is that advertising?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 6, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885 "2004-10-06T17:46:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/41 "2004-10-07T03:56:03Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Hmm. So the only acceptable answer to the question in question would have been: “There’s stuff out there, but I can’t tell you where!”

And, “e-mail me at [SDMBcontraband@baddoper.com](mailto:SDMBcontraband@baddoper.com) for more info!” :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: :o

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/42 "2004-10-07T04:51:05Z")

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> [@Cajun Man](#):
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> It’s up to the discretion of the board staff as to what is or is not an exception . . . not the general membership.

I know moderating is YOUR job and not mine, but there is something about how you phrased that that grates on me. Is it the paternal tone? Is it “The members be damned!” attitude? Or could it be how it says, “You paid your money but are allowed no say in how the board is run so shut the fuck up?”

I can’t quite place it. 😕

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/43 "2004-10-07T04:56:40Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I know moderating is YOUR job and not mine, but there is something about how you phrased that that grates on me. Is it the paternal tone? Is it “The members be damned!” attitude? Or could it be how it says, “You paid your money but are allowed no say in how the board is run so shut the fuck up?”
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> I can’t quite place it. 😕

For me, it’s all three…

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/44 "2004-10-07T06:19:41Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Or could it be how it says, “You paid your money but are allowed no say in how the board is run so shut the fuck up?”

Here, for your personal edification, is a list of all the benefits extended to Charter Members:

> [@Ed Zotti](#):
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> What does a subscription get me?
> 
> ```
> * Posting privileges for one year.
> * The title under your name says "charter member."
> * Post count (i.e., number of messages you've posted to date appears with your username)
> * Ability to search the massive SDMB message database
> * Ability to view member profiles
> * Biographical info included with each post (optional)
> * Other cool stuff that we throw in later, possibly including private messaging, SDMB calendar, custom signatures, and "who's online" feature. (This list edited by EZ 3/19/04.) 
> 
> ```

Note please a decided lack of items such as “control of what moderating decisions are made/not made” and “permission to break forum rules.”

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**Author:** ![Keapon\_Laffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@Keapon\_Laffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keapon_Laffin)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/45 "2004-10-07T06:51:34Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I know moderating is YOUR job and not mine, but there is something about how you phrased that that grates on me. Is it the paternal tone? Is it “The members be damned!” attitude? Or could it be how it says, “You paid your money but are allowed no say in how the board is run so shut the fuck up?”
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> I can’t quite place it. 😕

I think its Cajun Man’s condescending tone. Some mods are alright, but he keeps acting like he’s better than everyone else. :mad:

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**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/46 "2004-10-07T06:52:36Z")

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> [@Mockingbird](#):
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> _Exactly_.
> 
> Though you could stand to put the information about requesting such a thread for a circumstance such as a 20,000th post.
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> And you could have chosen to show some discretion, left the thread open, but posted that for normal circumstances the thread would be closed but in this case it was unique and that next time a mod needed to be contacted before hand.

When in doubt, contact a moderator or administrator. If you are clearly breaking a rule, don’t do it, unless you contact the staff first and receive permission.

The thread broke an established rule and you act surprised the thead was closed?

Ask before breaking a rule. Is that so hard to understand?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/47 "2004-10-07T13:08:51Z")

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> [@DrMatrix](#):
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> When in doubt, contact a moderator or administrator. If you are clearly breaking a rule, don’t do it, unless you contact the staff first and receive permission.
> 
> The thread broke an established rule and you act surprised the thead was closed?
> 
> Ask before breaking a rule. Is that so hard to understand?

As stated, I did not understand that I was breaking a hard and fast rule. I do now. As far as I’m concerned, knowing what I do now, I’m not in the least upset that it was closed. (I must admit, **CajunMan** ’s tone grates on me as well.)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/48 "2004-10-07T13:39:57Z")

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I’m glad this got away from **me**!

Seriously, I deliberately avoided posting to that thread in ATMB because I HAD cajoled Opal into making me a special shirt that commemorates the board (even though it’s not mentioned in any way).

I **do** think SDMB merchandise would be a decent revenue pop for the CR and have, in the past, suggested a few things privately to the staff. If I know anything it’s periodical and ancillary marketing.

But it’s there call to market or not. I just don’t think it should be a big deal.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/49 "2004-10-07T13:54:46Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> Note please a decided lack of items such as “control of what moderating decisions are made/not made” and “permission to break forum rules.”

And I normally have no problem with that and am quick to backtrack or even apologize when I break a rule, but that imperious tone tends to piss me off.

CajunMan’s a programmer, isn’t he? Well, they aren’t known for their diplomacy or charming personalities. :rolleyes: But here I can’t throw things at programmers like I can at work.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/50 "2004-10-07T16:05:22Z")

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**DrMatrix** is the insolent programmer. I’m the charming artiste. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/51 "2004-10-07T16:14:48Z")

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Oh-HO! A high-handed and arbitrary artist! THAT explains a lot. 😉

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/52 "2004-10-07T20:27:57Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> Note please a decided lack of items such as “control of what moderating decisions are made/not made” and “permission to break forum rules.”

Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Junior Mod. :rolleyes: 😉

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/53 "2004-10-08T00:53:35Z")

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In re: **Cajun Man** , it seems painfully obvious to me:

Most mods clearly (and rightfully) enjoy the respect and admiration from the members for all their extra efforts. That, it appears, is their reward for the job well done.

A few, unfortunately, don’t feel that that’s enough, and have to act like arrogant assholes. I suppose it feeds their meek egos, though I’d really wonder about someone who needs that kind of silly power trip on a message board to make themselves feel better.

I just feel sorry for them, and sorry for the other mods cause it just makes their already atruistic job that much more difficult.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/54 "2004-10-08T01:48:37Z")

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Cajun Man? An “arrogant asshole”? Wait, this is like one those _Star Trek_ alternate universe things, where Spock has a beard or Kira is a lesbian domme, right? Yeah, that must be it…

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/55 "2004-10-08T02:15:46Z")

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> [@Una Persson](#):
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> Cajun Man? An “arrogant asshole”? Wait, this is like one those _Star Trek_ alternate universe things, where Spock has a beard or Kira is a lesbian domme, right? Yeah, that must be it…

I saw the alternate Spock episode, but I think I missed the alternate Kira episode. Could you link me to that one? Please??

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/56 "2004-10-08T02:21:46Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> I saw the alternate Spock episode, but I think I missed the alternate Kira episode. Could you link me to that one? Please??

Hmm…it was one of the DS9 alternate universe ones, where Kira was evil…was it “The Emperor’s New Cloak”?

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/57 "2004-10-08T02:24:56Z")

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Hmm…mainstream link with poor pic link:

[http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/ds9-562-the-intendant-shows-he/240x320.jpg](http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/ds9-562-the-intendant-shows-he/240x320.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/58 "2004-10-08T02:27:22Z")

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There also might have been something on one the “Transsexual Trills” episodes too…

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/59 "2004-10-08T02:39:08Z")

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Thank you!! A blessing on you!

BTW, was she a _good_ lesbian domme (in the sense that she’s on the side of truth and justice and the principles of delivering pain and humiliation to those who desire such, not that she’s good at being a lesbian domme, altho I hope she’d take pride in her abilities) or was she a _bad_ lesbian domme (once again, in the sense that she stands for deceit, injustice, and the unwanted infliction of pain and humiliation, while performing to a high standard of dommeness as opposed to her just not delivering the goods)?

Was that clear? 😕

It certainly was a runon sentence. But it’s late and I don’t feel like revising it.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-how-the-heck-is-that-advertising/267885/60 "2004-10-08T02:42:41Z")

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Y’know, I think this may be taking away from the topic. Never mind about the domme thing.

Oh, and _I_ think **cajun man** rocks.

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