# TubaDiva is back as an admin after less than 30 days - how do YOU feel? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470 "2005-03-14T15:46:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/441 "2005-03-17T19:14:47Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Again, I am not so much saying she’ll break the privacy policy specifically, but that she will behave unprofessionally and let her emotions cloud her judgement. (my underline - b) This is the true issue, and it’s a point that I think **LHoD** and **spoke** are completely missing as they hash through the particulars of SM’s and TD’s actions. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/442 "2005-03-17T19:14:53Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Theresa loses it. She physically hauls the guy out of the coffeeshop in front of all the other patrons and yells at him that she never wants to see his face again, and that if he ever tries something like that in her town again, he’s a dead man. And then she says to the rest of the customers, “Oh, by the way, I can’t use the store’s PA system to tell you this guy’s full name and address, but here are some flyers I had made with that information.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/443 "2005-03-17T19:17:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > ALLEGED pedophiles! Yes, pardon me. If all the _alleged_ pedophiles leave this board I will not shed one. fucking. tear. (Or isn’t that what you meant?) ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/444 "2005-03-17T19:23:42Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > And the point still stands that she should not have publically disclosed that information, regardless of TD’s perceived validity of said statement. (my underline - b) Another mostly ignored point. Go to the cops with a suspicion? A-OK. Got to LJ with a suspicion? Not OK. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/445 "2005-03-17T19:23:44Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > And then she says to the rest of the customers, “Oh, by the way, I can’t use the store’s PA system to tell you this guy’s full name and address, but here are some flyers I had made with that information.” Wrong–my example contained nothing of the sort, because in the example, everyone could see the guy and identify him on the street. I already accounted for the identifying of the accused. But if you’d like, you can add to it Theresa’s going back inside and saying to the shocked masses, “Joe Carlucci, everyone, convicted sex offender, look it up!” I’d still not have a problem with it. As to those of you who, with varying degrees of intelligence or lack thereof, questioned my use of the word “credibly,” I mean of course credibly to me. If you don’t find it credible, that’s your monkey, and I encourage you to protest by withholding your membership fees. I don’t mean that snarkily; I really do encourage such a protest. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/446 "2005-03-17T19:26:22Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > ALLEGED pedophiles! Hasn’t it occurred to you that someone might be falsely accused? Just going by some of the snark journal threads, I’ve seen more than a few Dopers accused of being kiddy diddlers. She also let the guy know that his alleged victim had reported him, puting said victim in danger. Are you really that fucking stupid? Well, here’s another possible scenario for those who don’t think she did anything wrong. Just suppose some yobbos looking for a bit of fun saw TD’s post on LJ. And just suppose they went round to the former member’s address [which she supplied] and kicked the shit out of him based on her allegations - leaving him permanently disabled. And just suppose that, afterwards, an official investigation found her accusations to be totally unfounded. Would you still be here trying to make the case that TD didn’t do anything wrong by putting her selfrighteous little post on LJ? Would her little group of admirers still be cheering her on?? There’s a good reason why these things should be left to the authorities - it protects the safety of all parties concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/447 "2005-03-17T19:26:56Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > As to those of you who, with varying degrees of intelligence or lack thereof, questioned my use of the word “credibly,” I mean of course credibly to me. What do you know that we don’t? What was at all “credible” about TD’s public disclosure of an alleged issue? ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/448 "2005-03-17T19:29:25Z")
> [@Blue Ruin](#): > > From what I understand, there are aspects of administering this message board that nobody except TubaDiva knows how to do. I think that the administrators realized that if they did the right thing, there would be a lot more work for them to do. So they did the wrong thing. I haven’t heard anything more about this. Is this true? Is the Reader so dependent on volunteer help for a paying service that they won’t discipline an admin properly for fear of losing services? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/449 "2005-03-17T19:33:10Z")
Or what if the police were already watching him or laying a trap for him? **Tuba** gave the suspect a good heads up that he wasn’t being careful enough. Or if she did try the police first and they brushed her off, why did they do that? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/450 "2005-03-17T19:37:16Z")
Like I said upthread **emarkp** , a rare jewel. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/451 "2005-03-17T19:37:25Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > But if you’d like, you can add to it Theresa’s going back inside and saying to the shocked masses, “Joe Carlucci, everyone, convicted sex offender, look it up!” I’d still not have a problem with it. To me, that’s a call to vigilante justice, and Theresa is culpable. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/452 "2005-03-17T19:38:11Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > She also let the guy know that his alleged victim had reported him, puting said victim in danger. Are you really that fucking stupid? Disingenuous bullshit. First of all, there is zero indication that the **registered sex offender** we’re discussing (not _alleged_ sex offender, but _convicted_ sex offender) had any means of locating or harming the victim. And why did it take until page nine of this thread for you to express the slightest concern for the prospective victim? Somehow, I think the victim has not been foremost in your thoughts. All I’ve seen from you up to this point is your concern for the poor oppressed **registered sex offender**. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/453 "2005-03-17T19:41:46Z")
I’m concerned for everyone in this situation, **spoke-**. Sorry if I feel that vigilantism is not appropriate, even for icky sex offenders. (If you’d read the LJ community, you’d see that I told **Stagemanager** to shut the fuck up. I’m NOT on his side, and I’m sick of people accusing those of us who have a problem with **Tuba** ’s actions of being pedophile appologists.) Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/454 "2005-03-17T19:42:18Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > Disingenuous bullshit. First of all, there is zero indication that the **registered sex offender** we’re discussing (not _alleged_ sex offender, but _convicted_ sex offender) had any means of locating or harming the victim. Then isn’t the “I did it to protect the board” reasoning bullshit as well? I mean, if there’s no indication he could actually locate or harm anyone… ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/455 "2005-03-17T19:46:53Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > And why did it take until page nine of this thread for you to express the slightest concern for the prospective victim? Somehow, I think the victim has not been foremost in your thoughts. All I’ve seen from you up to this point is your concern for the poor oppressed **registered sex offender**. What “victim”? Oh, you mean the, \*\*potential, unsubstantiated \*\* one? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/456 "2005-03-17T19:47:10Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > To me, that’s a call to vigilante justice, and Theresa is culpable. YMMV. MMDV :). Daniel ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/457 "2005-03-17T19:48:26Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > And why did it take until page nine of this thread for you to express the slightest concern for the prospective victim? Somehow, I think the victim has not been foremost in your thoughts. All I’ve seen from you up to this point is your concern for the poor oppressed **registered sex offender**. Could it be because the alleged victim was never even identified, while the alleged criminal was publicly identified, thanks to TD’s vigilantism. Even a convicted sex offender, after he’s served his sentence, is entitled to put his life back together, if he doesn’t reoffend, without having to live in fear. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/458 "2005-03-17T19:48:40Z")
> [@](#): > > **Duderdude2** said: > On what basis do you base “credibly.” Based on the word of someone whose integrity is, based on other actions of hers, quite questionable. > [@](#): > > **emarkp** said: > I haven’t heard anything more about this. Is this true? Is the Reader so dependent on volunteer help for a paying service that they won’t discipline an admin properly for fear of losing services? That has to be horse shit. If it wasn’t, the never would’ve demoted a mod or admin before. And why the hell do people here think that we’re defending SM? This has fuck-all to do with him, and everything to do with the fact that **TubaDiva** is a heavy-handed, impulsive, judgmental, unethical egotist. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/459 "2005-03-17T19:49:20Z")
> [@Duderdude2](#): > > What “victim”? Oh, you mean the, \*\*potential, unsubstantiated \*\* one? Furthermore, this is still contrary to the point, regardless of whether a victim exists or not. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/460 "2005-03-17T19:53:41Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > Could it be because the alleged victim was never even identified, while the alleged criminal was publicly identified, thanks to TD’s vigilantism. There was no vigilantism. Nobody went to his house and beat him up. Nobody sent unwanted cookies to him through the mail. Nobody called his house and made death threats. Vigilantism involves illegal activity. There was no vigilantism. > [@catsix](#): > > everything to do with the fact that TubaDiva is a heavy-handed, impulsive, judgmental, unethical egotist. Okay, now you’ve moved past bitchy and straight on into ironic. Daniel [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470.md?page=24)