# TubaDiva is back as an admin after less than 30 days - how do YOU feel?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470 "2005-03-14T15:46:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/501 "2005-03-17T21:35:40Z")

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Night night analogy!  
Daniel

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**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/502 "2005-03-17T21:37:06Z")

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Just to clarify, it was IMO entirely foreseeable that the course of action pursued could lead to such legal concerns and it is clearly stated on the Megans law info how it may and may not be used.

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**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/503 "2005-03-17T21:38:20Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Night night analogy!  
> Daniel

You know that not posting replies everytime someone replies to your replies would accomplish that, right?

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/504 "2005-03-17T21:47:57Z")

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Also Sprach California:

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> Calif. Pen. Code § 290.46(h):
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> (1) Any person who uses information disclosed pursuant to the Internet Web site [i.e., California’s Internet sex offender registry] to commit a misdemeanor shall be subject to, in addition to any other penalty or fine imposed, a fine of not less than ten thousand dollars ($10,000) and not more than fifty thousand dollars ($50,000).
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> (2) Any person who uses information disclosed pursuant to the Internet Web site to commit a felony shall be punished, in addition and consecutive to any other punishment, by a five-year term of imprisonment in the state prison.

Now, does anyone contend that the public disclosure of a registered sex offender’s name and address is, by itself, a misdemeanor or felony pursuant to California law? If so, please specify the precise misdemeanor or felony that you believe qualifies. If not, please refrain from further unfounded suggestion that any actual laws were broken by disclosing such information.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/505 "2005-03-17T21:57:35Z")

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> [@Avenger](#):
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> Just to clarify, it was IMO entirely foreseeable that the course of action pursued could lead to such legal concerns and it is clearly stated on the Megans law info how it may and may not be used.

Really? Please cite me to the provision you are referring to, by section and subsection. Because personally, I think you’re talking out of your ass on that matter.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/506 "2005-03-17T22:05:57Z")

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> [@minty green](#):
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> Really? Please cite me to the provision you are referring to, by section and subsection. Because personally, I think you’re talking out of your ass on that matter.

Thanks, **minty**. I knew I wasn’t hallucinating.

And while I’m shamelessly brownnosing, thanks, **Poly** , for your post first thing this morning; I appreciate the compliment. I figure if Poly and minty have got my back on at least parts of what I’m saying, I can’t be too far out in left field.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Ruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Blue\_Ruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Ruin)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/507 "2005-03-17T22:25:37Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> You’re a nice piece of work. Way to make your case. Asshole.

You’re a baby-raper too? This place is crawling with them!

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/508 "2005-03-17T22:33:50Z")

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> [@Blue Ruin](#):
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> You’re a baby-raper too? This place is crawling with them!

Dude … you’re not helping at all. By and large, this thread is staying civil, which in turns keeps this thread alive. IMHO, it’s in the interest of the board to keep an avenue for discussion of this issue open. You are jeopardizing that with personal attacks.

Don’t get frustrated that minds aren’t changing here. That’s not going to happen, and that’s not the point of this thread anyway. Much understanding is being fostered here (to me, at least). Let’s not destroy this thread.

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**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/509 "2005-03-17T22:36:02Z")

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I wish everyone here would go back and read a thread posted by **Horrifying Howler Monkey** titled “Best way of coping with no food for a short period”?

**QED** referred to this in response to a question by a prospective member who thought this board wasn’t worth paying for.

I have never been moved by the actions of strangers in my life as I was when I read that!

THAT is the board I joined! THAT is the board I want to be a member of!

I can smell an agenda a mile off and there is more than one going on here. Put the all away! No one is going to live or die by what happened here. In the grand scheme of things, it matters no more than what you had for breakfast.

Please, please, take a minute to go back and read that thread. THATS what you people are all about! THATS what this board is all about!

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**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/510 "2005-03-17T22:40:16Z")

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HEH :wally Ran out of room! Just one more thing. I’m still staying and I still think you folks are the ones in the thread I referred to. If I knew how I’d link it in some way but I haven’t mastered that skill yet.

Come on folks, live up to your reputations!

I’m a newbie ,and I’m just sayin.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/511 "2005-03-17T22:43:54Z")

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> [@Blue Ruin](#):
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> You’re a baby-raper too? This place is crawling with them!

Yet another post that makes me even more determined to stay and pay. 😃

Anyone else need a renewal? I’ll pay. Email in profile.

**Welcome back TubaDiva !**

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/512 "2005-03-17T22:48:00Z")

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I forgot: **BlueRuin** , Is your life ruined, now that you can’t post your filth on the trainwreck LJ anymore? Awww. \*:: pat pat pat:: \* 😃

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/513 "2005-03-17T22:55:04Z")

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> [@jester21](#):
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> negative. it will NOT be posted _here_. I like this thread being open.

Then I’ll have to assume it takes a “guttless” coward to know one.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/514 "2005-03-17T23:54:51Z")

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Looks like **Tuba** ’s posting of his SOR violated LJ policy:

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> If a user is posting journal entries that make reference to you in a negative fashion, first ask yourself whether a casual viewer of that journal would have enough information available to identify you. In order to be considered abuse, content must identify you in such a way that a random reader could identify a specific person in the physical world.
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> Generally, this means that the poster must include your full name, your address, your telephone number, or other uniquely identifying material or information. First names, Internet nicknames, LiveJournal usernames, and other forms of non-identifying information do not count as violations of the Terms of Service.
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> If the material in question does contain a way of uniquely identifying you, you can file a report with the Abuse Team. Be sure to include links to all pertinent entries in the user’s journal. The Abuse Team will not investigate these cases unless reports contain specific links to investigate.

So, since it had his full name, address and picture, that would indeed count as a violation.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Ruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Blue\_Ruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Ruin)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/515 "2005-03-17T23:57:25Z")

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> [@gum](#):
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> I forgot: **BlueRuin** , Is your life ruined, now that you can’t post your filth on the trainwreck LJ anymore? Awww. \*:: pat pat pat:: \* 😃

I just thought I’d try insulting people who disagree with me. It was fun, but I’m done now.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/516 "2005-03-18T00:00:00Z")

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I disagree.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/517 "2005-03-18T00:23:28Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Then I’ll have to assume it takes a “guttless” coward to know one.

Oh, supposedly **Tuba** lives near a registered SO and that’s why she took it out on the banned poster. Big fucking deal.

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**Author:** ![laigle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laigle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laigle)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/518 "2005-03-18T00:46:33Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> I don’t know why you guys are complaining, the people in charge don’t care.

I think that was the preface to my American History text back in grade school.

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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/519 "2005-03-18T00:53:55Z")

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> [@minty green](#):
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> Also Sprach California:
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> Now, does anyone contend that the public disclosure of a registered sex offender’s name and address is, by itself, a misdemeanor or felony pursuant to California law? If so, please specify the precise misdemeanor or felony that you believe qualifies. If not, please refrain from further unfounded suggestion that any actual laws were broken by disclosing such information.

I think the quote people are referring to is from the Megan’s Law website itself, namely:

“The information on this web site is made available solely to protect the public. Anyone who uses this information to commit a crime **or to harass an offender** or his or her family is subject to criminal prosecution and civil liability.”

(bolding mine).

And from the FAQ:  
“I want to share with others the information I found on the Attorney General’s Megan’s Law Website. Does the law prohibit me in any way from sharing this information?  
A person may use the information disclosed on the Attorney General’s Web site only to protect a person at risk. It is a crime to use the information disclosed on the Attorney General’s Internet Web site to commit a misdemeanor or felony. Unless the information is used to protect a person at risk, it is also prohibited to use any information that is disclosed pursuant to this Internet Web site for a purpose relating to health insurance, insurance, loans, credit, employment, education, scholarships, fellowships, housing, accommodations, or benefits, privileges, or services provided by any business. Misuse of the information may make the user liable for money damages or an injunction against the misuse. Before using the information disclosed on this Web site, you may want to consult with an attorney or merely suggest to others that they view the Web site for themselves.”

I’m sure you, a trained lawyer, can figure out if what Tuba did was “misuse” or not in a legal sense, but I’m sure that I can’t. I haven’t heard anybody say that Tuba consulted with an attorney before disclosing the information, however.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/520 "2005-03-18T00:56:38Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Oh, supposedly **Tuba** lives near a registered SO and that’s why she took it out on the banned poster. Big fucking deal.

😕

Were you really meaning to respond to me, **Guin**?

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