# TubaDiva is back as an admin after less than 30 days - how do YOU feel?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470 "2005-03-14T15:46:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/541 "2005-03-18T03:34:58Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> But… **Tuba** ’s big blow up gave him even MORE fuel, because he’s constantly bragging about how it was nothing, because the police never contacted him. And the rest of us are tired of hearing him go on and on about the whole deal.

He’s banned, isn’t he? What the hell are you talking about?

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> And the admins of this board don’t give a shit about the whole thing, they don’t CARE that we’re concerned over the way this place is run and they probably wouldn’t even have done jack shit if we hadn’t kept at them. And that pisses a lot of people off.

You’ve been in absolute hysterics over this for more than a month, happily padding your post count with one frenzied post after another about it. The board administration did do something about it, and it didn’t take them very long to do it.

Maybe, if you would stop foaming at the mouth, step away from the keyboard, and calm down, you might realize that it’s not so much that other people don’t care at all, it’s that they actually have lives away from the SDMB and so don’t take this as being the biblical injustice that you’ve convinced yourself it is.

Get a life, loser.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/542 "2005-03-18T03:38:16Z")

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How will this be resolved (if ever)? I think the sheer weight of this thread will probably at some point fall on Tubadiva and crush her into flatness, thereby resolving (almost)everything. :o

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/543 "2005-03-18T03:39:14Z")

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**Rickjay**

**Stagemanager** may be banned here. But, he continues to annoy Dopers on other related online communities.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/544 "2005-03-18T03:40:25Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Looks like **Tuba** ’s posting of his SOR violated LJ policy:
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> So, since it had his full name, address and picture, that would indeed count as a violation.

Then I would hope that someone would report her to LJ so that she would be banned from ever posting there again.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/545 "2005-03-18T03:41:57Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> And the admins of this board don’t give a shit about the whole thing, they don’t CARE that we’re concerned over the way this place is run, and they probably wouldn’t even have done jack shit if we hadn’t kept at them.

Or perhaps they just have an honest disagreement with your assessment of the manner, and have chosen to proceed in the manner that they regard as most desirable.

The horror! The horror!

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/546 "2005-03-18T03:42:21Z")

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> That doesn’t make me feel any better about her, only worse about you.

I spent some time thinking about this, and I came to the conclusion that there are very few people whose opinion about me would matter less than yours does.

Maybe none.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/547 "2005-03-18T03:43:27Z")

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For _manner_ in the above post, please substitute _matter_. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/548 "2005-03-18T03:43:35Z")

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> [@Scotticher](#):
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> She lost her temper, for what I consider to have been a good cause, and made a mistake by ACTING ON HER LOST TEMPER. Yes, she shouldn’t have done it. Yes, it was a major mistake. Yes, she screwed up. Yes, administrators should not lose their temper and Yes it had better not EVER happen again.

It appears, from taking a quick look through her latest posts, that she is indeed at present behaving in a “humble” manner. How long that will last is anyone’s guess.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/549 "2005-03-18T03:43:44Z")

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> **Scotticher** said:  
> I spent some time thinking about this, and I came to the conclusion that there are very few people whose opinion about me would matter less than yours does.

Uh oh, you don’t like me.

Big whoop.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/550 "2005-03-18T03:46:12Z")

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Well, the first one anyway. The second _manner_ is correct.

Is there a corollary to Gaudere’s Law that says if you post to correct your own post, your correction will itself be screwed up?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/551 "2005-03-18T03:47:51Z")

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I don’t think it’s a huge flaming injustice, I just find it annoying that if this were a regular poster, he or she would be banned for good. Hell, I still feel bad that **Euty** got the shaft for something that was so much less.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/552 "2005-03-18T03:49:21Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> And the admins of this board don’t give a shit about the whole thing, they don’t CARE that we’re concerned over the way this place is run, and they probably wouldn’t even have done jack shit if we hadn’t kept at them. And that pisses a lot of people off.

Ironic, isn’t it? On the one hand, they often treat people with such incredible disdain and arrogance, acting as if they don’t give a shit; and in the next moment they’re scrambling to “fix” things with a bandaid cause they’re terrified of the backlash that might hurt their baby.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/553 "2005-03-18T03:55:32Z")

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> [@minty green](#):
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> Well, the first one anyway. The second _manner_ is correct.
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> Is there a corollary to Gaudere’s Law that says if you post to correct your own post, your correction will itself be screwed up?

No, but this post falls into the _Law Against Anal Retentiveness_. 😉

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/554 "2005-03-18T04:01:47Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Uh oh, you don’t like me.
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> Big whoop.

I don’t “not like you.” I don’t _know_ you. I only have your posts on this message board to go by, and from my perspective, you screetch a lot without any kind of logical substance. Therefore, your opinion of me is of no concern to me.

Hope that clears things up.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/555 "2005-03-18T04:03:43Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> No, but this post falls into the _Law Against Anal Retentiveness_. 😉

Dude, if you only saw my desk, you’d know how utterly surreal that claim is. 😛

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/556 "2005-03-18T04:05:56Z")

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> [@minty green](#):
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> Or perhaps they just have an honest disagreement with your assessment of the manner, and have chosen to proceed in the manner that they regard as most desirable.
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> The horror! The horror!

Okay, but I think this basically demonstrates the difference between the two opposing “factions”: One group, based on their many years of experience here, is willing to give the admin/mods the benefit of the doubt. The other, based on their many years of experience, is not.

Who’s to say who’s right? I happen to think the people who run things here could use a big dose of humble pie; you obviously think they are doing fine just the way they are. We’ve both been here awhile, so who are you (and who am I) to say the other’s full of crap?

Now, what was my point again…?

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/557 "2005-03-18T04:06:29Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I don’t think it’s a huge flaming injustice, I just find it annoying that if this were a regular poster, he or she would be banned for good. Hell, I still feel bad that **Euty** got the shaft for something that was so much less.

Actually, honey, if this had been a regular poster we wouldn’t be having this discussion. It happened off board and wouldn’t have been an issue.

I have my own feelings about the Euty situation, but he was a moderator and not “just a regular poster.”

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/558 "2005-03-18T04:09:48Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Except, WE do not know if that exists, do we?

(This referenced copies of emails the RSO sent to his intended victim.)

I don’t have the copies in my hand, no. However, any rational assessment of the situation tells you that these do exist. Think it through. Follow the situation as it developed and evaluate what had to be there, to get the results that followed.

The subject email copies exist.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/559 "2005-03-18T04:13:49Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> **Rickjay**
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> **Stagemanager** may be banned here. But, he continues to annoy Dopers on other related online communities.

So what does that have to do with the administration of this board? They can’t do anything about that. He could be lying on those other boards. Maybe he’s posting from Sing Sing. How can some SDMB admin change what happens on some other Web site?

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**Author:** ![meanoldman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@meanoldman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meanoldman)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/560 "2005-03-18T04:26:40Z")

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Garfield226 — yeah I guess so. Popularity contest it is then. That’s why people pay money to join. Otherwise its its its…what? Just you jerking off?

I joined -partially- because of perceived comraderie. It’s false, I know, but it’s as real as any to be found IRL.

The thread by Lord Ashtar or whatever his name need not be posted. Those in favor are in favor. Against are against.

I’m new. Fresh. Relatively unspoiled. But been around awhile too, in an odd unconventional way.

I don’t know nobody.  
Sides? What sides? Sides on what?

All I know is what I read. And what I’ve been reading since the '70’s or so… I’m welcoming back our alien overlords… I mean TD. Whatever.

Actually, come to think of it, has nothing to to with TD specifically. More with general attitude. And those against the return of TD (speaking in wild generalizations) seem to be be the kind of people I avoid IRL.

And yup… still small and shrill is what I find in those calling for the ouster of TD. Especially on the part of Blue Rain / Blue ruin or whatever. At least I _joined_ before criticizing others that joined. Hell, I was totally unaware of this entire topic until earlier today. Or was that yesterday? Whatever. To a noob like me, TD _was_ the SDMB… not you. How many times is -your- name mentioned in any of the books?

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