# TubaDiva is back as an admin after less than 30 days - how do YOU feel? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470 "2005-03-14T15:46:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/41 "2005-03-14T16:58:38Z")
> [@Maendosa](#): > > Bolding mine. No, I’ve “been around” for over 5 years now. I’ve felt like posting for just over a year. That’s the point - you’ve no idea how long the OP has “been around”. Yes, that’s precisely that point. If **Blue** had answered my goddam question, I **would** have an idea how long he/she has been around. But **blue** decided to play coy, and _that_ makes me suspicious. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/42 "2005-03-14T17:02:51Z")
This issue has been beaten to death, revived with a _Resurection_ spell, and then beaten to death again. Really, what can be said about this that hasn’t already been said? ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/43 "2005-03-14T17:03:48Z")
Hey, I’ve paid my $8, as if that grants our opinion special rights, and I thought what **Tuba Diva** did showed a rashness and poor decision making process that doesn’t suggest she should be a Mod/Admin. I don’t know what else she has done that makes her so beloved or respected by other members, but I can’t recall her posting a lot, or maybe I’m just missing them, and I don’t understand why people would have objected to her being stripped of at least the Admin badge. ---
**Author:** ![little\_bit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@little\_bit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/little_bit)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/44 "2005-03-14T17:05:12Z")
I wonder why all these posters who are soooo outraged don’t volunteer their time if they are so concerned about how the board is run & admins do their job… just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/45 "2005-03-14T17:06:15Z")
Well, I’ve only been posting 3 months, but I did a search and the admin in question seems to have a nasty streak. That said, we the members have no say here, they do want they see fit regards to mods and admins. No skin off my nose. Personally, I don’t see this board lasting forever, so lts just enjoy it while we can. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/46 "2005-03-14T17:07:38Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > The fact that **they weren’t here when this went down** makes me wonder why they’re stirring the shit now. > > Daniel I had no idea you possessed such wonderful superpowers that enable you to tell when people are here or not. Please, reveal the source of your wisdom. Or are you assuming that no one reads the message board before registering? Unless you know for sure that the OP hasn’t been lurking for weeks, months, years, perhaps you could give him/her/it the benefit of the doubt and, I don’t know, _concentrate on the issue that’s been raised_? Or are you so wound up into a froth of self-righteousness in trying to point an accusing finger? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/47 "2005-03-14T17:11:20Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > I had no idea you possessed such wonderful superpowers that enable you to tell when people are here or not. Please, reveal the source of your wisdom. That little date in the upper-right-hand corner of people’s posts gives a default figure. > [@](#): > > Or are you assuming that no one reads the message board before registering? No. [quote] Unless you know for sure that the OP hasn’t been lurking for weeks, months, years, perhaps you could give him/her/it the benefit of the doubt and, I don’t know, _concentrate on the issue that’s been raised_? I gave him the benefit of the doubt: I asked him who he was and what his stake was in this matter. Rather than giving an honest answer, he was coy. > [@](#): > > Or are you so wound up into a froth of self-righteousness in trying to point an accusing finger? No. Damn, you ask easy questions! Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/48 "2005-03-14T17:17:15Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > The irony! It burns! The goggles do nothing!! (sorry. I had to.) Anyway, I don’t think I contributed to any of the other threads concerning this issue, so I’ll toss in my two cents here. **Tuba** did bad. She knows it, we all know it, she owned up to it and I’m sure she’s going to make sure it won’t happen again. She’s only human, anyway; what she did was a mistake any one of us could have made. The admins/mods are not omnipotent. I agree that it’s over and done with now, so let’s just let it go. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/49 "2005-03-14T17:17:30Z")
Like Switzerland, I shall remain neutral\* in this and hope that it remains a civil discussion or gets punted to the Pit for the scheduled Trainwreck Du Jour. I do accept bribes via paypal 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/50 "2005-03-14T17:20:08Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > That little date in the upper-right-hand corner of people’s posts gives a default figure. BZZZZZZT! Wrong answer. Nice try. That date up there refers to when they signed up to post something, and it indicates the beginning of their 30 days. It absolutely does not indicate whether a person merely read the message board without registering to post on it. Remember, it’s not an easy question if you get it wrong. > [@](#): > > I gave him the benefit of the doubt: I asked him who he was and what his stake was in this matter. Rather than giving an honest answer, he was coy. He didn’t owe you an answer, Torquemada. You lazily shifted the focus onto the OP rather than the issue. Besides, if you had any honest inclination to believe he didn’t have a valid stake in the issue, well you know how those matters are supposed to be handled. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/51 "2005-03-14T17:24:27Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > BZZZZZZT! Wrong answer. Nice try. > > That date up there refers to when they signed up to post something, and it indicates the beginning of their 30 days. It absolutely does not indicate whether a person merely read the message board without registering to post on it. Perhaps you’re not clear on what “default” means. Regardless, the irony of you accusing me of being in a selfrighteous lather pointing accusatory fingers is so fucking brilliant that I’ll grant you a pass on this. Otherwise, I think I’ve adequately explained why I asked what I asked, and why I find the answer unsatisfactory; if you don’t like that, that’s your problem. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/52 "2005-03-14T17:26:35Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > Besides, if you had any honest inclination to believe he didn’t have a valid stake in the issue, well you know how those matters are supposed to be handled. I should say that I do know, and I did handle it that way, too–but since I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, I figured I’d give him a chance to explain. Okay. Carry on with being shrill at me. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/53 "2005-03-14T17:31:59Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > Hey, I’ve paid my $8, as if that grants our opinion special rights, and I thought what **Tuba Diva** did showed a rashness and poor decision making process that doesn’t suggest she should be a Mod/Admin. > > I don’t know what else she has done that makes her so beloved or respected by other members, but I can’t recall her posting a lot, or maybe I’m just missing them, and I don’t understand why people would have objected to her being stripped of at least the Admin badge. **Tuba** ’s got a good heart-she’s always been willing to help me whenever I asked and I genuinely like her. But I no longer have confidence in her ability to administer this board. And that makes me sad. As for **Blue Ruin** , it’s no so much that anyone new is automatically looked down upon, but that we’ve recently had a rash of “guests” who right away start bitching about board practices, and previous problems. Almost all of them claim to have been “lurking forever”, and they seem to know this place inside and out. So it makes sense to be skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/54 "2005-03-14T17:36:11Z")
The whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. Move on, people. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/55 "2005-03-14T17:36:09Z")
> [@Amazon Floozy Goddess](#): > > The goggles do nothing!! > > (sorry. I had to.) No-no. The Goggles ( **my** Goggles) did nothing in Post #33. Your goggles, on the other hand, _do something_. They look cool. See? 🆒 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/56 "2005-03-14T17:36:27Z")
[QUOTE] > [@Amazon Floozy Goddess](#): > > The goggles do nothing!! > > (sorry. I had to.) And just 15 psts after **Bosda** did. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/57 "2005-03-14T17:38:06Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > This issue has been beaten to death, revived with a _Resurection_ spell, and then beaten to death again. Really, what can be said about this that hasn’t already been said? Yes. There is a grassy spot being beaten by people where once was a dead horse. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Ruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Blue\_Ruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Ruin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/58 "2005-03-14T17:38:57Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Who are you, **Blue** , and what stake do you have in this? > > Daniel You asked two questions, and I answered both. I am NOT going to give my real name, for obvious reasons, and my stake in this message board is that I post and read it. If you want more info so you can try to dig up dirt on me or try and prove that I am a sock puppet, you’re up shit creek. Search my posts and you’ll find some info about me, but I’m careful not to be too specific because, hey, I may want to discuss something on this board that I don’t want to share with everyone I know. And if your question implied that I was also posting under another handle, let me reiterate that accusations of sock puppetry are not allowed (unless they are against someone who says something negative about someone popular, it seems). Really, what kind of answer were you wanting? ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/59 "2005-03-14T17:40:10Z")
I’m just fucking sick of the issue at this point. I wasn’t impressed with her “Yes I’m back” ATMB thread (didn’t even apologize :rolleyes:), but, eh, whatever. The drama teats of the TubaDiva incident have been milked dry and I’m comfortably indifferent. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/60 "2005-03-14T17:41:33Z")
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