# TubaDiva is back as an admin after less than 30 days - how do YOU feel? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470 "2005-03-14T15:46:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/61 "2005-03-14T17:41:43Z")
I was displeased with the initial suspension of 30 days, and I’m equally displeased with Tuba’s refusal to do the right thing and resign. She made a bad decision, and whether it was in the heat of the moment or not, whether it was dealing with a former criminal or not, whether it was here or not, is inexcusable. She _knowingly_ and _intentionally_ violated the privacy policy here, I believe her exact words were “The Privacy Policy at the SDMB prevents me from doing this there, so I’ll do it here.” **Willful** disrespect of the rules by someone in a position of power is _unacceptable_. She flew past the line of “avoiding the appearance of impropriety,” and took a longjump over “impropriety” itself. Feel free to check my join date, by the way. I hope it’s old enough for you. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/62 "2005-03-14T17:43:29Z")
> [@Blue Ruin](#): > > Really, what kind of answer were you wanting? How did you find out about this issue? Do you have any personal stake in the issue, e.g., knowing any of the people involved in it? Were you reading the boards when this issue came up originally? That sort of thing. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/63 "2005-03-14T17:44:10Z")
> [@little\*bit](#): > > I wonder why all these posters who are soooo outraged don’t volunteer their time if they are so concerned about how the board is run & admins do their job… > > just saying. Say it all you like, but it’s full of crap. You have no idea who or what has been volunteered to staff and no clue how the current staff decides to _let_ anyone help them. And you can be darn sure a board that expects payments is going to get decreased currency out of the “selfless volunteers” line. I know that for the most part staff is volunteers but the “it’s free, you can’t complain” meme is gone forever. I say **Tuba** should lose the admin post. Let’s see the new volunteer list. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/64 "2005-03-14T17:45:13Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Perhaps you’re not clear on what “default” means. Regardless, the irony of you accusing me of being in a selfrighteous lather pointing accusatory fingers is so fucking brilliant that I’ll grant you a pass on this. Otherwise, I think I’ve adequately explained why I asked what I asked, and why I find the answer unsatisfactory; if you don’t like that, that’s your problem. > > Daniel So you believe that simply browsing to this site appends that date on there? Is there a limit to your ignorance? That date merely reflects when the person signs up to post a message. That’s it. Has nothing to do with whether they’ve been lurking or not. By the way, those of you who are whining about a dead horse being beaten - are you also doing the same in the “welcome back” thread? If not, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/65 "2005-03-14T17:48:17Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > I don’t know what else she has done that makes her so beloved or respected by other members, but I can’t recall her posting a lot, or maybe I’m just missing them, and I don’t understand why people would have objected to her being stripped of at least the Admin badge. I agree. It’s not like anybody’s advocating female circumcision, it’s just being relieved of an unpaid job on a damn message board. And now that the members are actually paying for their subscriptions, IMHO it’s more important than ever that members not worry about their privacy, even the scumbags. If I was on the fence about subscribing (or had something to hide) this worry might make them lose my business. IMHO, the punishment of not being an Admin anymore is appropriately justified by the potential loss of business that might occur by people worrying about their privacy. If one can call being relieved of unpaid work as a “punishment”. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/66 "2005-03-14T17:48:27Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] > [@](#): > > And just 15 psts after **Bosda** did. 🙂 And you pointed it out 2 posts after me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/67 "2005-03-14T17:49:16Z")
What’s even more awful, I think, is that everyone is well aware that there is still going to be action taken against **TD** , outside of our little SDMB world. The banned poster in question has posted that, in public, as recent as this morning. Why the other mods and admins would risk this board is beyond my imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/68 "2005-03-14T17:57:28Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > And you pointed it out 2 posts after me. 🙂 Check the time stamp. A dead solid double post. Plus I got your back man. Is that so bad? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/69 "2005-03-14T18:00:20Z")
Plus, I’ve been\* thinking \* about posting that for months now. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/70 "2005-03-14T18:02:48Z")
So, now we know that not only is **TubaDiva** a hothead who couldn’t keep privileged information to herself, the rest of the administration couldn’t keep its word regarding the 30 day suspension, either. I, like another poster, am damn glad that nobody on the SD ‘staff’ has a single lick of personal information about me. Although, this did cause me to realize that sex offenders are not the only people who are easy to locate on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Ruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Blue\_Ruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Ruin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/71 "2005-03-14T18:08:20Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > How did you find out about this issue? Do you have any personal stake in the issue, e.g., knowing any of the people involved in it? Were you reading the boards when this issue came up originally? > > That sort of thing. > Daniel I found out about the issue by reading it on the board when people were calling for TubaDiva’s banning. I do not know TubaDiva or any of the administrators of this board. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/72 "2005-03-14T18:09:04Z")
It wasn’t 30 days? I wasn’t keeping track. Like I feel, this board won’t be up forever, enjoy it now. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/73 "2005-03-14T18:11:45Z")
> [@NotWithoutRage](#): > > What’s even more awful, I think, is that everyone is well aware that there is still going to be action taken against **TD** , outside of our little SDMB world. The banned poster in question has posted that, in public, as recent as this morning. Why the other mods and admins would risk this board is beyond my imagination. I’m certainly not well aware of whatever you are talking about. Can you elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/74 "2005-03-14T18:15:54Z")
Well socks and indignation aside, Blue Ruin is a cool user name I will give him/her that! I have no horse in this race. I could care less who the admins are on this board, mostly because this is not MY board. I may pay a small fee to use it, but that hardly gives me voting rights on who the admins are. Now, that being said, TD shouldn’t be allowed back. I cannot imagine another job, paid or not, where using private information to publicly out someone can be condoned. But the decision has been made, so bitching about it probably wont matter. So I for one will welcome our new TD overlords. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/75 "2005-03-14T18:18:11Z")
Add my name to the list of those who feel Tuba’s actions were rash and ill-thought out. This isn’t the first time I’ve noticed an upset over her modding actions, either. There was a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=266080&highlight=magician) about magic tricks where she bowed to the pressure of questionable sources and refused to let members share information. On a board devoted to fighting ignorance, this seemed like a poor decision. The [follow-up](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=266110&highlight=magician) thread where her actions were discussed. Then there was the time she used her status as mod to [solicit charity](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=260464) for another member who got himself into a bad situation. Turned out the guy had stiffed some other members at a dopefest and was not highly thought of to start. The [fallout](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=260518&highlight=monkey+mule) from that thread. Both incidents left me with a bad taste in my mouth with regards to how Tuba does her job. ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/76 "2005-03-14T18:19:59Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > I’m certainly not well aware of whatever you are talking about. Can you elaborate? The person who was banned posted in LiveJournal again this morning, talking about the legal action against **Tuba.** ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/77 "2005-03-14T18:21:47Z")
For the record: TubaDiva’s suspension began on February 11th. It ended March 13th. 30 days. Ed posted the note on Tuba’s suspension _after_ she had already been suspended. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/78 "2005-03-14T18:24:48Z")
I feel less secure in my anonymity, but that would have been true whether TD was allowed back or no. I really don’t care at this point what the mods and admins feel is proper “punishment”. Their sandbox, their rules, so I’ve no cause to bitch. But having been sufficiently nauseated by several posters’ hideous minds, as well as this particular event already, I’ve found, not surprisingly, that the less time I spend around here, the happier and more productive I am. I’ve a feeling this is just one of those nails in the participatory coffin, so to speak. No, don’t worry, I won’t let the door hit me in the ass. ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/79 "2005-03-14T18:29:15Z")
> [@NotWithoutRage](#): > > The person who was banned posted in LiveJournal again this morning, talking about the legal action against **Tuba.** You know, I wonder if we need to have a policy on the LJ stuff the same way we have one about other boards. Namely, ‘don’t bring that shit here.’ No offense meant to **NotWithoutRage,** it just gets tiresome knowing that we’re often only getting to see half of what’s really going on here, or that there’s a clique among us that goes off and discusses this sort of thing out of sight, but not out of mind. ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470/80 "2005-03-14T18:37:26Z")
> [@Stonebow](#): > > You know, I wonder if we need to have a policy on the LJ stuff the same way we have one about other boards. Namely, ‘don’t bring that shit here.’ > > No offense meant to **NotWithoutRage,** it just gets tiresome knowing that we’re often only getting to see half of what’s really going on here, or that there’s a clique among us that goes off and discusses this sort of thing out of sight, but not out of mind. **Stonebow,** I’d be fine with such a policy. But the community on LJ is called SDMB (well, at least one of them is), and as such, I feel it is relevant to the current discussion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-back-as-an-admin-after-less-than-30-days-how-do-you-feel/294470.md?page=5)