# TubaDiva is not fit to be in a position of power on this board.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 30, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845 "2006-04-30T16:58:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/181 "2006-05-02T19:50:39Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Will you fucking listen to yourself? Physical harm, my ass.
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> Idiot.

Look, it’s another mindreader.

I gave her the opportunity to clarify, and even told her that that very interpretation could be made. She declined.

Personally, I don’t believe that’s what she meant. I only said it was interpreted as a threat of one or the other, which it has been.

As she said, [don’t put words in her mouth. She’s perfectly capable of doing that herself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7325331&postcount=9). (except on this issue, apparently)

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**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/182 "2006-05-02T20:19:18Z")

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> [@Diane](#):
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> Until today, I have never given a shit about these ridiculous battles between mods and members beyond a passing amusement, but holy hell after that post by Dex I am really starting to regret forking over my money.
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> What a shameful way to treat your paying customers.

I just renewed my charter membership a few days ago. After having read that post, I honestly wish I hadn’t.

I don’t understand why the Board administrators and moderators are unwilling to see that this isn’t just the disgruntlement of a few bad apples here.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/183 "2006-05-02T20:51:59Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> I never realized we had so many mindreaders around here. It really is amazing.

[You haven’t been reading MPSIMS lately, have you?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=369710)😉

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/184 "2006-05-02T21:13:03Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> Look, it’s another mindreader.

Obviously I’m not psychic, but it seems to me that you’re confused between “mindreader” and “reader.” When I read someone’s words describing their intent and infer an intent from those words, that’s just basic literacy, that’s not mindreading. And if I say your inference is wrong, that’s slightly more advanced literacy.

I may confidently say that **Tubadiva** was not promising **catsix** a batch of double-stuff Oreos. I am equally confident saying that she was not promising her physical harm. Neither conclusion requires reading minds–just reading words.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/185 "2006-05-02T21:30:32Z")

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> **Left Hand of Dorkness** said:  
> I may confidently say that Tubadiva was not promising catsix a batch of double-stuff Oreos. I am equally confident saying that she was not promising her physical harm. Neither conclusion requires reading minds–just reading words.

Aren’t you the guy who interpreted the sentences ‘Fuck off and die.’ and ‘You should be pecker-slapped to death.’ as serious death threats?

I’m not sure that your inferences are the ones we should all be using as a benchmark.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/186 "2006-05-02T21:30:50Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Obviously I’m not psychic, but it seems to me that you’re confused between “mindreader” and “reader.” When I read someone’s words describing their intent and infer an intent from those words, that’s just basic literacy, that’s not mindreading. And if I say your inference is wrong, that’s slightly more advanced literacy.
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> I may confidently say that **Tubadiva** was not promising **catsix** a batch of double-stuff Oreos. I am equally confident saying that she was not promising her physical harm. Neither conclusion requires reading minds–just reading words.

Actually, while you do make a good point in that it isn’t as extreme as mindreading, it’s not so simple as just “reading”, either. For you to have got that from plain reading the comment would have had to have been something like this;

> [@Totally Made-up quote by me](#):
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> I am not promising you a batch of double-stuff Oreos, or physical harm.

What you’re doing is reading between the lines, based on a) your personal history and experience of Tuba, and b) your own assumptions of what she would/wouldn’t say. As you say, you’re taking an inference - but the very nature of an inference is that it is not spelt out in plain language. There’s room for many inferences, some which may be totally contradictory.

I don’t agree with your proposition as surely as you do - although i’m attempting to keep an open mind, and I certainly believe it’s a possibility - but to describe your inference from what Tuba said as a case of “just reading words” is false.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/187 "2006-05-02T21:34:19Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Aren’t you the guy who interpreted the sentences ‘Fuck off and die.’ and ‘You should be pecker-slapped to death.’ as serious death threats?

No, I’m not, actually.  
Daniel

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/188 "2006-05-02T22:06:51Z")

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I could’ve sworn you were the whiny little pussy who was thanking the mods for banning **Greathouse** after he suggested the pecker-slapping.

That must’ve been some other panty-waist, eh?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/189 "2006-05-02T23:00:29Z")

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Is being such a bitch a natural trait of yours, **catsix** , or do you have to work at it?

Never mind . . . 'twas a rhetorical question.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/190 "2006-05-02T23:07:06Z")

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Yay, a new mod!

What’s your position on the Tuba issue, Cajun Man? And what’s your opinion on Dex’s contentious last post?

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/191 "2006-05-02T23:16:52Z")

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> **Cajun Man** said:  
> Is being such a bitch a natural trait of yours, catsix, or do you have to work at it?

Well since asking logical, fact based questions only gets me falsely accused of being a liar and being told that there are “promises” that certain people would like to make me, I thought maybe you all were using reverse psychology.

Seriously though, this is the Pit, and I thought **Left Hand of Dorkness** richly deserved that for his whining about a couple of throwaway colloquialisms used by the former **Greathouse**.

My opnion of that is that someone in that scenario is a lot like the kid who whines to teacher that somebody called him a butthead on the playground.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/192 "2006-05-02T23:18:27Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> Yay, a new mod!

Are we going for the full set? Will this be the only thread ever to have all the mods/admins posting in it?

> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> What’s your position on the Tuba issue, Cajun Man? And what’s your opinion on Dex’s contentious last post?

My opinion, FWIW - I don’t give a fuck.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/193 "2006-05-02T23:20:42Z")

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Oh and just out of curiosity, **Cajun Man** , was that your opinion as a poster, or as a mod?

Just curious, since you all got my fifteen bucks already.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/194 "2006-05-02T23:24:50Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> Are we going for the full set? Will this be the only thread ever to have all the mods/admins posting in it?

Unlikely. I’m sure there’s been one before, and this isn’t exactly a mod magnet.

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> My opinion, FWIW - I don’t give a fuck.

About what part (or all of it, I suppose), and why?

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/195 "2006-05-02T23:25:56Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> Are we going for the full set? Will this be the only thread ever to have all the mods/admins posting in it?

I have a feeling even if we get all the others, one will be suspiciously absent. . .

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/196 "2006-05-02T23:30:32Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> I have a feeling even if we get all the others, one will be suspiciously absent. . .

Isn’t that what you’ve been told from the get-go by everybody? I remember saying it, I remember a bunch of others saying it…

You may continue with your crusade now, futile as it may be.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/197 "2006-05-02T23:37:36Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> About what part (or all of it, I suppose), and why?

It started out a couple of bitches slapping each other and degenerated from there.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/198 "2006-05-02T23:39:57Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> It started out a couple of bitches slapping each other and degenerated from there.

I believe you just called Tuba a bitch. Was that your intention?

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/199 "2006-05-02T23:49:18Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> I believe you just called Tuba a bitch. Was that your intention?

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/200 "2006-05-02T23:54:05Z")

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Sorry for me being stupid in not getting it. Just wanted clarification, really - care to give it another go?

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