# TubaDiva is not fit to be in a position of power on this board. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 30, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845 "2006-04-30T16:58:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/21 "2006-04-30T18:00:37Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > And yes, once the matter is clarified, it will be over, at least as far as I’m concerned. (I don’t consider clarification to be 'I’m sorry you thought I was threatening you, catsix) Oh really? So why didn’t you title this thread “Tuba, please clarify?” You just want to keep harping out of some warped and out-of-proportional sense of justice. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/22 "2006-04-30T18:04:32Z")
> [@Helen's Eidolon](#): > > Oh really? So why didn’t you title this thread “Tuba, please clarify?” > > You just want to keep harping out of some warped and out-of-proportional sense of justice. She didn’t respond to a direct question, posed to her just after her post in ATMB, what makes you think titling a thread that way would make any difference? She knows I and others want a clarification. Asking it in the title is somehow supposed to make her more aware of this? Besides, I think this is more relevant. “Justice”? Nah. Just common-fuckin’-sense. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/23 "2006-04-30T18:05:50Z")
> [@JohnBckWLD](#): > > You seen an injustice… “I seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain.” ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/24 "2006-04-30T18:07:06Z")
No, I just think your title more truthfully charaterizes your attitude than your request for clarification. You don’t want her to clarify, you want her to be fired. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/25 "2006-04-30T18:08:26Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > Yeah, until they listen. Talk to them. If it hasn’t become abundatly clear to you yet, they are not going to respond in a manner that you will deem satisfactory, if at all. > [@](#): > > If I wanted to pay $7.50 to be treated like shit, I’d look in the yellow pages under “Dominatrix.” And yet you paid anyway or you wouldn’t be able to post today. I don’t care how this turns out because I’m not here for the aggrandizement of the moderators, I’m here for my own entertainment. I am, however, weary of this nonsense. You have two options: stay, or leave. Either way you need to get over this. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/26 "2006-04-30T18:12:25Z")
> [@Helen's Eidolon](#): > > No, I just think your title more truthfully charaterizes your attitude than your request for clarification. You don’t want her to clarify, you want her to be fired. Of course I want her to be fired. Well, that’s not entirely truthful: Resignation would be acceptable too. You think I would have titled my thread this if I didn’t? You think I would have said this multiple times in ATMB if I didn’t? Actually, what I’m saying is that right now, with the way she’s acting (the statement she made in the first place, refusing to clarify it when asked directly, refusing to apologize if it’s warranted by her clarification), she doesn’t deserve to be in her position. If she clarifies, maybe I don’t feel that way anymore. I doubt it, but as I said, I have allowed for the possibility. However I realize that her being fired just plain isn’t going to happen. I’ve been around here seven years, I know how things work. Still, I’ve paid my money and I get to express my opinion, as long as they choose to let me. So here it is. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/27 "2006-04-30T18:12:40Z")
Regarding **Tubadiva** I see her from the little snippets of postings she has provided and postings by others who have tried to explain her as the mother hen of a raucous brood. Who hasn’t had a mother that hasn’t pissed them off? Its fine to talk back to your mother when you feel you’ve been done wrong by, but if you don’t let up, you just become a pain in the ass and you’ve solved nothing for yourself. As great as this message board is, it depends on volunteers, especially the pioneers. Those dopers who are closer to the administration of this message board understand this and will make sensible allowances for her accordingly in the best interests of us all who are here. We all come with negative and positive attributes. **Tubadiva** should be judged on her contribution as a whole which in my opinion based on what I’ve read pretty damn well approaches indespensability. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/28 "2006-04-30T18:14:01Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > I don’t care how this turns out because I’m not here for the aggrandizement of the moderators, I’m here for my own entertainment. I am, however, weary of this nonsense. You have two options: stay, or leave. Either way you need to get over this. So don’t open my thread if you’re “weary” of it. I’ll direct you to the last paragraph of my post to **Helen’s Eidolon**. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/29 "2006-04-30T18:16:46Z")
Well, now that I’ve determined this is the exact same whining I’ve been seeing for however many years, and I’m realized that I really am fucking bored of it, I wish I hadn’t, in fact, opened the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/30 "2006-04-30T18:20:38Z")
> [@Helen's Eidolon](#): > > Well, now that I’ve determined this is the exact same whining I’ve been seeing for however many years, and I’m realized that I really am fucking bored of it, I wish I hadn’t, in fact, opened the thread. If people have been “whining,” saying that one particular administrator shouldn’t be an administrator for “however many years,” . . . Naah. Gotta be a coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/31 "2006-04-30T18:20:55Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > Of course I want her to be fired. Well, that’s not entirely truthful: Resignation would be acceptable too. You think I would have titled my thread this if I didn’t? You think I would have said this multiple times in ATMB if I didn’t? Then they need to find someoene else to take care of the board. I dunno – would you like to dedicate most of your waking hours to a message board? ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/32 "2006-04-30T18:22:30Z")
> [@ExtraKun](#): > > Then they need to find someoene else to take care of the board. I dunno – would you like to dedicate most of your waking hours to a message board? If I got a “modest stipend,” maybe I’d consider it. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/33 "2006-04-30T18:24:45Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > So don’t open my thread if you’re “weary” of it. I’ll direct you to the last paragraph of my post to **Helen’s Eidolon**. Can I block the titles, too? No. Am I going to have to see a new one of these every three days? If the answer is yes you’re putting it in my face, and it’s getting old. If the answer is no I guess I can expect this to be the last of it? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/34 "2006-04-30T18:27:58Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > If people have been “whining,” saying that one particular administrator shouldn’t be an administrator for “however many years,” . . . > > Naah. Gotta be a coincidence. Just to clarify, I did not mean **TubaDiva** only. She just happens to be winning the pit-thread contest at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/35 "2006-04-30T18:28:25Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Can I block the titles, too? No. Am I going to have to see a new one of these every three days? If the answer is yes you’re putting it in my face, and it’s getting old. If the answer is no I guess I can expect this to be the last of it? Are you honestly telling me my TWO (2) threads in the pit are more annoying than **Reeder** incessant braying about George W. Bush was? Tell you what, I promise to limit myself to one thread on the front page of the pit at a time, k’? And as has been said, if the administration would actually have enough respect to address the issue instead of continuing to ignore it, it would, indeed, be the last of it. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/36 "2006-04-30T18:31:29Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > If I got a “modest stipend,” maybe I’d consider it. IIRC, there were some posts saying that the stipend is indeed quite modest. Just so that you know what you are getting into… ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/37 "2006-04-30T18:31:51Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > Are you honestly telling me my TWO (2) threads in the pit are more annoying than **Reeder** incessant braying about George W. Bush was? Tell you what, I promise to limit myself to one thread on the front page of the pit at a time, k’? This is at least the third thread about this, maybe even the fourth. > [@](#): > > And as has been said, if the administration would actually have enough respect to address the issue instead of continuing to ignore it, it would, indeed, be the last of it. THEY. ARE. NOT. GOING. TO. ANSWER. Why is it that some of you haven’t figured this out yet? Does this issue affect the entertainment value of this place that much? Is it now less fun than it was before? Ah, you’re just trying to prove a point. Point conceded. You can continue to ask, they can continue to ignore. Now get a grip. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/38 "2006-04-30T18:42:12Z")
> [@](#): > > And as has been said, if the administration would actually have enough respect to address the issue instead of continuing to ignore it, it would, indeed, be the last of it. For crying out loud, **Garfield226** , it _has_ been addressed,in various ways, by various mods and admins, in all the various threads. Problem is, there are only two things which will satisfy you: [ul] [li]for **TubaDiva** to resign[/li][li]for **TubaDiva** to abjectly apologize while grovelling at **catsix** ’ feet[/li][/ul] Until either of those events transpires, you will continue to insist that the issue has not been addressed, and quite frankly, I am fucking sick of it. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/39 "2006-04-30T18:42:44Z")
Oh, they’ll listen. A successful boycott would likely do the trick. But, like most others in first-world countries, we’d so much rather have our prestige titles than a voice. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845/40 "2006-04-30T18:42:59Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > This is at least the third thread about this, maybe even the fourth. There was the original thread where the comment was made in the pit, which was closed. There was a thread asking for clarification in ATMB, which was closed. There was the first thread I started in the pit, which fell off the front page when another was started in ATMB. That ATMB thread is now closed, which prompted this one. Three in the pit (one closed, one off the front page), two in ATMB (both closed). I don’t know why you’ve got such a bug in your butt about this. If you don’t see it as an issue, fine. I’m not calling for other people to get involved: No “Come on people! Let’s band together and they’ll HAVE to listen!” from me. That’s stupid. If you want to ignore this issue, it’s no skin off my nose. You’ll be in good company. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-is-not-fit-to-be-in-a-position-of-power-on-this-board/354845.md?page=3)