# TubaDiva, you may have missed this. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 6, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421 "2011-09-06T18:55:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/21 "2011-09-06T22:29:39Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > While I hold out little hope this will satisfy you, it is not an insult. It’s a personal comment that we discourage, but it is not a personal insult. > [@magellan01](#): > > :eek: Say WHAT?!!! Calling someone a racist is _not_ an insult? _Very_ interesting. Then, pray tell, why is it against the rules in GD? Personal comments of any kind are out of line in GD. You haven’t figured that out in four years? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/22 "2011-09-06T22:42:44Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Personal comments of any kind are out of line in GD. You haven’t figured that out in four years? I don’t think I’m the one not figuring things out. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/23 "2011-09-06T22:51:52Z")
Well, if the various sides all maintain that they’ve “figured it out” and still disagree, I guess that’s as far as it can go. ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/24 "2011-09-06T22:53:48Z")
I think it’s similar to how you can’t accuse someone of lying in GD, which as far as I can tell is OK in other boards. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/25 "2011-09-06T23:00:13Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > I think it’s similar to how you can’t accuse someone of lying in GD, which as far as I can tell is OK in other boards. Except that name calling and personal insults are a violation in any forum other than the Pit. We;ll see what Marley or Tuba come back with this time. Marley might take a while though,. He’s probably figuring out how to operate the backhoe so he doesn’t strain himself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/26 "2011-09-06T23:05:48Z")
Am I the only one that sees this thread as part of the slowest suicide by mod in board history? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/27 "2011-09-06T23:15:27Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Am I the only one that sees this thread as part of the slowest suicide by mod in board history? Possibly. He’s starting to look like someone who’s _daring_ the moderators, rather than questioning them. I look forward to his next ATMB thread. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/28 "2011-09-06T23:24:04Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > :eek: Say WHAT?!!! Calling someone a racist is _not_ an insult? _Very_ interesting. Then, pray tell, why is it against the rules in GD? > [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Personal comments of any kind are out of line in GD. And there’s your answer. It is not an insult. It is a comment about the poster rather than his or her argument, and those comments are discouraged in GD. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/29 "2011-09-06T23:25:51Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Am I the only one that sees this thread as part of the slowest suicide by mod in board history? It’s getting kind of tedious, but I’m not going to kill myself over it. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/30 "2011-09-06T23:35:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > That may be not only THE most ridiculous comment you’ve ever made, but that has ever appeared on these boards—period. Not even in the running. Re the racist bit: There are many people who would self-identify a such so it isn’t inherently an insult. If I called someone a tea-partiest (because in my eyes they really came off as one - though they might not think of themselves as one), they may not like it one bit, but that doesn’t mean it’s an insult. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/31 "2011-09-06T23:51:37Z")
_I’d_ be offended. It should be “tea-partier”. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/32 "2011-09-06T23:52:56Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > _I’d_ be offended. > It should be “tea-partier”. But what if you were the tea-partiest person there? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/33 "2011-09-07T00:27:37Z")
Then I’d be racist. Or so I hear. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/34 "2011-09-07T01:21:52Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > But what if you were the tea-partiest person there? Wouldn’t the proper way to refer to such a person be _the tea-partyingest mofo_? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/35 "2011-09-07T01:48:01Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > And there’s your answer. It is not an insult. It is a comment about the poster rather than his or her argument, and those comments are discouraged in GD. I must be in Bizzaro World. To recap: 1. this is not about GD, this is about ATMB (so I don’t know what the heck Lute Skywatcher thinks he was contributing. And then you site his response?! Yep, Bizzaro.) 2. insults and name calling are only allowed in the Pit 3. ATMB is not the same as the Pit, therefore insults and name calling are not allowed. Don’t believe me? Here: (bolding mine) [QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven] Just as a reminder and general statement: name-calling directed at other posters is NOT PERMITTED on the Straight Dope Message Boards, except in the forum called “The BBQ Pit.”\*\* In all other forums, name-calling/personal insults are a direct violation of our rules.\*\* [/QUOTE] 1. “Racist”, as used by **Ad Gadai** , was clearly an insult—or if you prefer, an instance of name calling—as it was directed to another poster. 2. since it was a violation, and a flagrant one at that, and it was reported to the Mods, a warning or admonishment was due to him 3. that didn’t happen. **TubaDiva** skirts the issue and then pulls a disappearing act, and 4. you _still_ refuse to admit that it was a violation. Which means you need to be pointed—once again—to something you should already be aware of, given your role as a Mod: [QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven] Just as a reminder and general statement: name-calling directed at other posters is NOT PERMITTED on the Straight Dope Message Boards, except in the forum called “The BBQ Pit.”\*\* In all other forums, name-calling/personal insults are a direct violation of our rules.\*\* [/QUOTE] 1. ? Oh, if you still want to try to claim that it is not an instance of insult or name calling, explain why it is a violation in the Pit. You can’t have it both ways. Unless you want to take Logic and throw it in a food processor. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/36 "2011-09-07T01:58:58Z")
You are missing the greater point, which is Go argue in another forum and not in About This Message Board. Because this is not an appropriate place to conduct your argument. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/37 "2011-09-07T01:59:09Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > 1. “Racist”, as used by **Ad Gadai** , was clearly an insult—or if you prefer, an instance of name calling—as it was directed to another poster. The problem is that it’s not an insult (as I explained upthread) and it’s not name-calling. It’s a comment about another poster, but it’s not an insult or name-calling like “stupid” or any of the more creative variants. I think it’s about time you gave up on this attempted gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/38 "2011-09-07T02:02:47Z")
**magellan01** , if I speak bluntly, reading your misplaced anger in this thread reminds me of the movie _Overboard_. Allow me to quote: > [@Kurt Russell in Overboard](#): > > You know what your problem is? You are so goddamn bored, you have to _invent_ things to bitch about! You don’t have a single thing to do on this earth except for your hair! The closet was fine, you just needed something to fill up your useless, nail-polishing, toe-polishing, rich bitch, sun-tanning days! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/39 "2011-09-07T02:24:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The problem is that it’s not an insult (as I explained upthread) and it’s not name-calling. It’s a comment about another poster, but it’s not an insult or name-calling like “stupid” or any of the more creative variants. I think it’s about time you gave up on this attempted gotcha. Ha. So it all comes down to this? You’re going to maintain that it’s not an insult to call a poster a racist. Unfuckingbelievable. But if you want to carry that flag, you go right ahead. Just don’t be surprised when you get laughed at and dismissed for being so blatantly biased. Then again, that kind of behavior is likely to get you a promotion around here. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421/40 "2011-09-07T02:25:54Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > You are missing the greater point, which is > > Go argue in another forum and not in About This Message Board. > > Because this is not an appropriate place to conduct your argument. Wait. I thought this is what this forum was for…to discuss the board, it’s moderation, etc. No? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-you-may-have-missed-this/595421.md?page=3)