# TubaDiva, you've become a numbskull **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150 "2008-10-16T03:49:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/41 "2008-10-16T14:05:02Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > What the fuck is taking Jerry so goddamn long to fix the “current problems”? If he keeps getting pulled off onto other projects, why has nobody been hired to help him out? Is there anyone on Ed’s staff that has even the slightest grip of modern technology, or at least knows how to read the resources on the web about how to fix this stuff without having to hack the code? > > And why must you be so condescending, **Tubadiva**? You also chew out gas station attendants because of the international price of oil? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/42 "2008-10-16T14:22:12Z")
Shit, here comes some more claims of being a brown noser but you’re wrong on this one **Frank**. The Revenge of the polls thread was a simple ATMB question to the Admins. **TubaDiva** ’s first post to the thread was crappy but within 9 minutes she came back, made a lame joke at **Rico** ’s (very minor expense) and answered the question. She is constantly closing questions in the ATMB once they are answered. If \*\*placebo \*\*wants an actually discussion with members he should try a thread designed for discussion and I don’t know maybe put it in IMHO. So why exactly are your panties tied up over this one? [To Lord Ashtar,] I am impatient also for the changes to be done. They are dragging out ridiculously long. But as has been said a hundred times, the SDMB is not Jerry’s main job. As to hiring someone to help out, maybe you missed the fact the Creative Loafing (the owners of the SDMB) are filing for Bankruptcy to get through a period where they overextended themselves. Ed does not have tech staff. Ed has volunteers and \*\*TubaDiva \*\*to do the updating of the Straight Dope pages and few other things. Jerry works for Creative Loafing in a separate department from Ed. Jim ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/43 "2008-10-16T14:31:07Z")
> [@TheLoadedDog](#): > > You also chew out gas station attendants because of the international price of oil? Are you implying it’s not their fault?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/44 "2008-10-16T14:39:12Z")
> [@TheLoadedDog](#): > > Actually, whenever I have needed to contact a mod/admin/honcho at the SDMB, I have defaulted to emailing **TubaDiva**. Over the years, I have found her to be unfailingly friendly, kind, prompt to reply with a personal touch with no “high and mighty” nonsense, and just straight out decent. This is also my experience. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/45 "2008-10-16T14:49:22Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Don’t you know? Everyone’s equal here but some are more equal than others. Watch it, buster. That’s my line. > [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > I was under the impression that to discuss modly behaviour in a non-reasonable way in ATMB was still a banning offense. Is this still the case? Post of the week. Very funny (no matter whether you meant it to be or not). > [@Rico](#): > > Whoa. Hold on a second. Back up. > … > So fuckin’ \*\*knock it off \*\*already. Kthxbye. Please, knock THAT off. This is exactly why people hate Tuba. As for the fact that you did not take offense at Tuba’s post and think it is all your fault, that’s fine. You have your own perspective on the matter. This does not take from the fact that Tuba acted carelessly by snapping without reading and knowing what’s going on, and that she was unnecessarily bitchy. As usual. > [@hawthorne](#): > > …But she closed the thread in a straightforward and businesslike way… I am glad I don’t have businesses with you IRL if this is your idea of businesslike. > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > I must say that I consistently see more sociopathic behavior played out on these boards by the teeming millions than I see at work. > > IMHO, **Tuba** does an endless, thankless job more graciously than I ever could. We have been over the endless, thankless bit before. She is free to quit anytime if she is not feeling like saving the world anymore. As long as she chooses to keep at it, she should try to do it right. Superman didn’t smash the windows of the trains he stopped from falling off a broken bridge just because people should be thankful he saved them at all. As for the “graciously” part, well, I am glad you work with people I don’t like anyways, I guess. If you cannot stop yourself from belittling everybody around you, you should not put yourself in a job that deals with customer complaints. ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/46 "2008-10-16T14:56:40Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > We have been over the endless, thankless bit before. For sure, but has _she_? IMHO, **Tuba** didn’t ask for it. I care little whether she begged for the job, or whether they begged her to take it, Fact is, she does well. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/47 "2008-10-16T15:07:20Z")
\*As all looks yellow to the jaundiced eye. \* And thus a simple post explaining that polls are off-limits at present and closing the thread (with a jocular gibe at **Rico** ), becomes a fascist diktat from a jackbooted Admin, full of sneers and disdain for members and mods alike. Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/48 "2008-10-16T15:17:01Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > \*As all looks yellow to the jaundiced eye. \* > > And thus a simple post explaining that polls are off-limits at present and closing the thread (with a jocular gibe at **Rico** ), becomes a fascist diktat from a jackbooted Admin, full of sneers and disdain for members and mods alike. > > Unbelievable. QFT (quoted for truth) ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/49 "2008-10-16T15:22:56Z")
Jesus. I never join in mod/admin pile-ons, but this > [@](#): > > Big shout out to Rico for giving the rest of us a heads up on this. > > (Not.) Oh, my God, if I were **Rico** , I’d be BEYOND pissed. Completely un-classy, disrespectful and snarky. PMSing, **Tuba**? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/50 "2008-10-16T15:24:12Z")
> [@TheLoadedDog](#): > > You also chew out gas station attendants because of the international price of oil? Because that’s so analogous to this situation. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/51 "2008-10-16T15:35:57Z")
> [@TheLoadedDog](#): > > Actually, whenever I have needed to contact a mod/admin/honcho at the SDMB, I have defaulted to emailing **TubaDiva**. Over the years, I have found her to be unfailingly friendly, kind, prompt to reply with a personal touch with no “high and mighty” nonsense, and just straight out decent. > > YMMV, of course, but it would take an awful lot to rattle my opinion of her. > > And this isn’t an arse-kissing attempt - I think some of the folks in charge over the years have been utter shitheads. But **Tuba** ain’t one of 'em. > [@RyJae](#): > > Seconded. I have emailed her more than once and her replies without fail had been courteous and kind. As well as personal, that actually reflected greatly on her, she didn’t just shoot off a canned response to my questions/comments she actually wrote an email explaining or answering mine. I’ve received her snark in email, and it was snark for no reason whatsoever. She wasn’t outright rude, but her sarcastic tone was enough to remove any question from my mind as to why people leave the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/52 "2008-10-16T15:39:35Z")
> [@TroubleAgain](#): > > Jesus. I never join in mod/admin pile-ons, but this > Oh, my God, if I were **Rico** , I’d be BEYOND pissed. Completely un-classy, disrespectful and snarky. PMSing, **Tuba**? Oh come on, that was a dumb joke, not “Completely un-classy, disrespectful and snarky”. Well maybe a little snarky, but not the rest. You are looking for offense and offense where it was not even close to be aimed at you. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/53 "2008-10-16T15:43:00Z")
> [@TheLoadedDog](#): > > Over the years, I have found her to be unfailingly friendly, kind, prompt to reply with a personal touch with no “high and mighty” nonsense, and just straight out decent. Same here. All, and I do mean all, of my interactions with her over the years have been nothing short of pleasant. If Rico had an issue that’d be one thing. But seeing as he doesn’t I’m at a loss to understand why anyone else would presume to get pissed off for him. People trying to judge or interject influence on the dynamic between two others just violates the hell out of common decency. ---
**Author:** ![DoubleJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@DoubleJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoubleJ)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/54 "2008-10-16T15:44:40Z")
I think part of the problem is that she projects a very different persona on the board than she does via e-mail. Like others here I’ve had to e-mail her for help with my account, and during PTP I sent a suggestion that would have made more work for Jerry and has been mooted by the return to free posting anyway. In all cases she was polite and friendly. Which is what makes some of her posts in ATMB so weird. It can’t be the repetitive nature of some of the questions; I was about the bazillion-and-first person to inadvertently lock himself out of his account. Add to her board personality some baggage and a not-undeserved bad rep and you get people reading a lot into every post she makes. Human nature, really – watch a precision pitcher go up against someone with control issues and see who gets the calls on the edge of the plate. In total, I think the first post was pretty much what I’d expect from any mod who hadn’t seen the links. Opening a new thread right after the closure of another is pretty much guaranteed to get snarked at. The last half of her second post is also no problem: > [@TubaDiva](#): > > We are not currently using polls on this site. We may reconsider the option when Jerry has finished fixing our current problems. We do not wish to add to his burdens by opening up new potential problems while he’s still fixing other ones. > > So hold on and let Jerry do his thing. And we’ll get back to you. would have been just fine (and even better as a first reply, had she read the links) but delivering a smack to **Rico** , even a relatively mild one, seems like an attempt to shift all the blame his way for the mistake instead of at least sharing it. (I mean, really: The links were right there!) So, yeah. Not the Tubazilla we’ve come to know and pit, but snippier than was really necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/55 "2008-10-16T16:26:44Z")
Maybe if she hadn’t been acting like this for years it wouldn’t be such a big deal-but she’s been a snotty bitch from the beginning-remember the big **Stage Manager** debacle-when many of us were loathe even then, because of the nature OF the victim in that case? Yeah. Honestly, just let her go. Have **Lynn** move up- **Lynn** ’s way cooler. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/56 "2008-10-16T17:01:54Z")
If we bring up TubaDiva’s “StageManager” episode, do we not bring up Lynn’s Aldebaraan (or however the fuck you spell it) outing? I have no feelings either way, I think they were both right in each situation. Just sayin’, mods make unpopular decisions all the time. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/57 "2008-10-16T17:08:22Z")
TubaDiva has been courteous and helpful to me on several occasions. The powers that be must think she is doing a good job or, supposedly, she wouldn’t be doing it. I’d hate to see her duties handed over to anyone else, especially some of the people who are complaining in this thread. That is all I have to say. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/58 "2008-10-16T17:12:09Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > \*As all looks yellow to the jaundiced eye. \* > > **And thus a simple post explaining that polls are off-limits at present and closing the thread (with a jocular gibe at Rico), becomes a fascist diktat from a jackbooted Admin, full of sneers and disdain for members and mods alike.** > > Unbelievable. I have bolded the parts I disagree with. You are very right on the rest, though. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/59 "2008-10-16T17:40:35Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#): > > If we bring up TubaDiva’s “StageManager” episode, do we not bring up Lynn’s Aldebaraan (or however the fuck you spell it) outing? > > I have no feelings either way, I think they were both right in each situation. > > Just sayin’, mods make unpopular decisions all the time. What was that with **Aldebaran**? Yeah, I forgot about that. ☹ (Too bad, because at least I still like **Lynn** ). Oh well. Hey-maybe **Rico**? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/60 "2008-10-16T17:43:55Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What was that with **Aldebaran**? Yeah, I forgot about that. ☹ (Too bad, because at least I still like **Lynn** ). > > Oh well. Hey-maybe **Rico**? One more time, what was so bad about the “StageManager” incident? It sounded like she used off board resources to stop a potential child predator. Why is this so heinous of an act? Put up a little substance for a change and try to convince me why a few posters like you wring there hands over this incident. Don’t just throw it out there and expect any respect for your example. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150.md?page=4)