# TubaDiva, you've become a numbskull **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150 "2008-10-16T03:49:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/101 "2008-10-17T02:22:27Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Obviously the fact that he bolded a username and did not provide a link should have clued me in. :rolleyes: No, the fact that every single person over the age of four knows who Geoffrey the Giraffe is should have. > [@](#): > > By the way, your link doesn’t work, dipshit. Does now, dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/102 "2008-10-17T03:29:41Z")
> [@Rico](#): > > So fuckin’ knock it off already. Kthxbye. Nope. You’re OK in my book, but I refuse to retract anything I’ve said about **TubaDiva** in the Pit, even if it gets me banned. > [@Rico](#): > > I was saying that I screwed up, and felt distressed that in doing so, someone else was subjected to so much vitriol and hatred. She wasn’t subjected to vitriol and hatred because you screwed up. She was subjected to vitriol and hatred for how _she_ handled it, and because it’s so typical of her. It’s the latest episode in a long pattern of douchebaggery that is simply not acceptable in a customer service job–which is a large part of her responsibility to the SDMB. I don’t know what she does for the Reader, and, for all I know, she’s the world’s foremost expert at it. But she is only doing the Board and the mods in general a disservice by treating us and you guys the way she does. > [@RyJae](#): > > Seconded. I have emailed her more than once and her replies without fail had been courteous and kind. As well as personal, that actually reflected greatly on her, she didn’t just shoot off a canned response to my questions/comments she actually wrote an email explaining or answering mine. That’s what I don’t get: she’s so commendable in how she communicates with members privately (myself included–I have no complaints on that front), but such a douchebag in public. What gives? ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/103 "2008-10-17T05:23:30Z")
Aren’t we supposed to be “raising the tone” of the board? (see? old school cred, right there.) ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/104 "2008-10-17T06:08:36Z")
> [@leander](#): > > At the end of the day it’s clear that Tuba acted poorly – and you are defending her behaviour. > > What I find really sad is that Tuba has been a huge reason why this business model has failed – her total ineptitude as a “customer service rep” has driven away so many paying customers that it’s incredible to me that you and others would still defend her actions. This. I have to say, I have interacted with Tuba before. Not in real life, but through IM. This was many years ago. I found her to be gracious, likable and reasonable in person one on one. I like Tuba, she’s a good egg, and a very attractive woman in person. I’ve seen her picture. But she is totally over her head administrating a message board like the SDMB as it is now. I like her. Netwise, I love her for what she helped create, the SDMB where I met my wife. Still, she has ABSOLUTELY NO CONCEPT how to treat paying members. She unthinkingly supports mods and administrators regardless of the circumstance. She makes lame excuses when a simple admission of truth would serve better. In short, no matter how much I might like Tuba the person, Tuba the administrator is in way, way over her head, And always has been. And that’s sad because back in the day she was instrumental in creating the SDMB as it is today. She needs to rest on her accolades and let someone who knows what s/he is doing take over. MHO only ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/105 "2008-10-17T09:02:37Z")
> [@TheLoadedDog](#): > > Actually, whenever I have needed to contact a mod/admin/honcho at the SDMB, I have defaulted to emailing **TubaDiva**. Over the years, I have found her to be unfailingly friendly, kind, prompt to reply with a personal touch with no “high and mighty” nonsense, and just straight out decent. > > YMMV, of course, but it would take an awful lot to rattle my opinion of her. > > And this isn’t an arse-kissing attempt - I think some of the folks in charge over the years have been utter shitheads. But **Tuba** ain’t one of 'em. I don’t usually make “me too” posts…I try to avoid them, but in this case “me too”. I’ve emailed **Tuba** a lot of times over the last five and a half years and PMed her about as many as well and she’s always been: 1. Prompt in answering. 2. Kind and considerate. 3. Interestingly more personal than she comes across in her public posts (which I think is a good thing). I don’t think she’s all high and mighty or looks around where she can be mean or out of line. I think she’s just human, like the rest of us, and has good days and bad days (and if she’s anything like how I feel, the bad days outnumber the good, heh). I think if any of us were in her shoes we might, after awhile, be snippy sometimes, too. Other random, idle thoughts: I think I’ve seen Cecil Adams be a bit more snarky in his answers than she was in that post. **Rico** didn’t seem to mind it either. If I made a mistake in public, I’d think it was fair to be called out about it in public. It wasn’t that big of a thing. I agree with the person who says this is all an overreaction. I think a lot of people (not everyone, but some) tend to look at certain mods and admins with a magnifying glass and wait for them to screw up so they can pounce all over them. This is not ass-kissing. I’m already full of ass-kissing today and have a long list of ass kissing to do tomorrow, so there is no room to kiss anyone’s ass even if I wanted to. Didn’t we do this last Friday? Or was it the Friday before that? I’m guessing **Frank** probably won’t be successful if he’s ever looking to be remodded. 😉 I’m hungry. Just my 1.5 cents. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/106 "2008-10-17T10:17:43Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#): > > … It’s the latest episode in a long pattern of \*\*douchebaggery \*\*that is simply not acceptable in a customer service job– **which is a large part of her responsibility** to the SDMB. I don’t know what she does for the Reader, and, for all I know, **she’s the world’s foremost expert at it** … That’s how I am choosing to read it. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/107 "2008-10-17T11:41:45Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Taking his personal information and posting a link to his sex offender status on the website for anyone and everyone to see is considered harassment by the state of California. Please see the last paragraph of the following link: > > [http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/disclaimer.aspx?lang=ENGLISH](http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/disclaimer.aspx?lang=ENGLISH) > > There have been websites where information has been posted about specific offenders with their personal information and they have been removed by law. Tuba deleted the post she made on LJ with his info so it couldn’t be referred back to. > > And why is it this shouldn’t be referred to? If what she did was okay in their eyes, why all the hush-hush? What’s with you and the constant dead horse beating? Shut the fuck up already. ---
**Author:** ![sinical\_brit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@sinical\_brit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinical_brit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/108 "2008-10-17T11:56:24Z")
Well. I have to say that i am outraged ! What ? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/109 "2008-10-17T12:02:12Z")
> [@sinical\_brit](#): > > Well. > > I have to say that i am outraged ! > > What ? You forgot to stamp your foot. Thus. **\< STAMP! \>** :mad: ---
**Author:** ![sinical\_brit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@sinical\_brit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinical_brit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/110 "2008-10-17T12:16:02Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > You forgot to stamp your foot. Thus. **\< STAMP! \>** :mad: I just couldnt raise the energy… ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/111 "2008-10-17T12:25:52Z")
> [@sinical\_brit](#): > > I just couldnt raise the energy… I wanted to join The Apathy Party too, but I couldn’t be arsed either. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/112 "2008-10-17T16:58:27Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > What’s with you and the constant dead horse beating? Shut the fuck up already. Oh go milk a cow, you daft cunt. What Exit asked a question and I answered it. Only on your little farm is that dead horse beating let alone “constant.” Perhaps you should get a clue before you start braying your idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Ryle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Mark\_Ryle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Ryle)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/113 "2008-10-17T20:01:28Z")
If polls were not disabled we might be able to take a poll on this whole question. ---
**Author:** ![DoubleJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@DoubleJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoubleJ)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/114 "2008-10-17T20:17:29Z")
Yeah, but then we’d have to have four poll-posts: - Was **Tuba** being a shithead? - What type of bug crawled up **Frank** ’s ass? - How many different ways can **Rico** say, “thank you sir, may I have another?” - Which of the admins needs to be put into the stocks the worst? See? Not having polls is just more efficient. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/115 "2008-10-18T09:26:16Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Oh go milk a cow, you daft cunt. What Exit asked a question and I answered it. Only on your little farm is that dead horse beating let alone “constant.” Perhaps you should get a clue before you start braying your idiocy. Oh my, hit a nerve did I? I don’t have any cows to milk on my little farm, but thanks for the suggestion. The question was already answered, and a MOD had requested we drop that line of conversation. Or did you miss that part of the conversation in your excitement to stir the shit? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/116 "2008-10-18T10:01:42Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > The Powers That Be think a lot of things that I don’t agree with. > > Leaving aside the Stage Manager issue, which we discussed for what, about 20 pages then? I agree with the OP here - that was not cool of **Tuba**. **Rico** and **placebo** made an arrangement,\*\* placebo\*\* did as requested and also put links in to that agreement, **Tuba** neglected to read the whole story, acted precipitously, and was snotty to boot. A separate issue is her public spanking of **Rico** - I think the rule of praise given publicly, censure given privately should have been in effect there. There was no reason I can see for her to do that pubicly. Plus, who the hell says “not” these days? That’s so 90’s. I simply tried, in some small way, to defend a person who has been helpful and kind to me on several occasions and I’ll stand by what I said. I think that if I reviewed every person I’ve ever known, I would find that all of them have been, on occasion, mistaken in some way, not to mention rude, thoughtless, etc., etc. I think those incidents are part of being human, even when those humans are among the powers that be. People should be allowed to be human. If you believe in praise being given publicly and censure being given privately, why are you hanging your censure out here for all the see? E-mail still works, so far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/117 "2008-10-18T10:30:20Z")
Last I checked, **featherlou** isn’t **TubaDiva** ’s boss. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/118 "2008-10-18T18:00:25Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > IMHO, **Tuba** does an endless, thankless job more graciously than I ever could. It’s a thankless job for good reason. It’s the same reason being a HOA President is a thankless job, it’s because it’s something that any idiot could do but anyone with a life would almost definitely have no interest in doing. So it leaves only the people who have such pathetic lives that they get off on executing petty power in a petty place as the prime candidates. Obviously there are some exceptions, Tuba isn’t one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/119 "2008-10-18T18:24:41Z")
> [@TroubleAgain](#): > > Completely un-classy, disrespectful and snarky. This is still the Straight Dope isn’t it? I mean, isn’t Cecil’s smartassedness part of the draw? Why shouldn’t the staff have the same attitude? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150/120 "2008-10-18T18:25:56Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > Oh my, hit a nerve did I? I don’t have any cows to milk on my little farm, but thanks for the suggestion. > > The question was already answered, and a MOD had requested we drop that line of conversation. > > Or did you miss that part of the conversation in your excitement to stir the shit? You’re adorable that you think you hit a nerve. Trust me, you’re not impressive enough to upset me. The question had only been **partially** answered which is why What Exit kept asking for more clarification. He specifically asked WHY it was illegal, I provided that information. Question asked, question answered. If the mod didn’t like it, the mod could warn me. Either way, fine by me. Playing with and stirring shit might be an exciting way to pass an afternoon for you, but it doesn’t really trip my trigger. Answering the question which was asked and not yet clarified was what I did. You, silly bitch, are not a mod so you are Junior Modding which is a fun way to get yourself a week’s suspension if you want to keep playacting. Also, you have yet to explain how this is “constantly” beating a dead horse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tubadiva-youve-become-a-numbskull/468150.md?page=7)