# Tucker Carlson and John Gibson: Both shows shitcanned **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 13, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270 "2008-03-13T19:49:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/41 "2008-03-15T01:41:42Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] [URL=[Tucker Carlson - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson#Bow_ties)]On April 11, 2006, Carlson (who is known for wearing bow-ties) announced on his MSNBC show that he would no longer be wearing a bow-tie, adding, “I just decided I wanted to give my neck a break. A little change is good once in a while, and I feel better already.” [/QUOTE] At least he wore the bowtie _all the time_. I’d sooner trust a guy who wears a bowtie all the time than one who wears a bowtie only _some_ of the time. 'Cause that’s just strange. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/42 "2008-03-15T02:45:12Z")
[QUOTE=Beware of Doug] At least he wore the bowtie _all the time_. I’d sooner trust a guy who wears a bowtie all the time than one who wears a bowtie only _some_ of the time. 'Cause that’s just strange. [/QUOTE] I think the breaking point was the memorable [Jon Stewart appearance on “Crossfire”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11TaDDUVcGQ). ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/43 "2008-03-15T17:27:45Z")
Thank the zombies we get BBC World. Ooh, look, 36C in Nagpur today! ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/44 "2008-03-15T18:05:17Z")
[QUOTE=tds1273] While since no one else has said it… Rachel Maddow needs her own show; pronto! [/QUOTE] Would that make her the first openly gay news anchor? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/45 "2008-03-15T21:52:07Z")
[QUOTE=gaffa] Would that make her the first openly gay news anchor? [/QUOTE] Wouldn’t that be Anderson Cooper? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/46 "2008-03-15T22:07:15Z")
Counting local news? I think there have been a few in San Francisco. There’s Randy Price in Boston, too. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/47 "2008-03-16T18:34:19Z")
There’s not enough John Gibson hate here. That guy is disgusting. Here’s a starter: [http://mediamatters.org/items/200801240009?f=h\_top](http://mediamatters.org/items/200801240009?f=h_top) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/48 "2008-03-16T19:47:48Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Wouldn’t that be Anderson Cooper? [/QUOTE] I don’t think Anderson meets the qualifications for the qualifier there, does he? I’ve seen plenty of third parties declaring that he’s “out and proud,” but until he actually makes specific reference to his sexuality I would hesitate to say that he’s “openly gay,” even if it got to the point where most reasonable people would conclude that he _was_ gay based on the balance of evidence. (Forgive me if that was an ironic joke.) Anybody that points a video camera at Glenn Beck should have their regenerative organs kicked repeatedly – the only exceptions being made for times when Glenn Beck is having his regenerative organs kicked repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/49 "2008-03-16T20:14:02Z")
[QUOTE=Talon Karrde] There’s not enough John Gibson hate here. That guy is disgusting. Here’s a starter: [http://mediamatters.org/items/200801240009?f=h\_top](http://mediamatters.org/items/200801240009?f=h_top) [/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > But I think most people do not want to go into a darkened room with a tub of popcorn and munch away watching two guys get it on. I just don’t. **I** want to. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/50 "2008-03-17T04:21:34Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Mudd] I don’t think Anderson meets the qualifications for the qualifier there, does he? [/QUOTE] Cooper’s own words are > [@](#): > > But I just don’t talk about my personal life. It’s a decision I made a long time ago, before I ever even knew anyone would be interested in my personal life. Very understandable and commendable. I don’t remember whether he said this before, after, or in his bestselling memoir about his life or maybe it was during one of his aired interviews with his mother, or in one of his essays about his father (the out-of-print author Wyatt Cooper), or perhaps in one of the interviews about coping with his brothers’ suicide, but his decision not to discuss his personal life is understandable and commendable. I mean, was anybody out there ever able to watch NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw without thinking “Yeah, he’s married to a former Miss South Dakota and has kid again, what does he know about Islamic terrorists?”, while Johnny Carson’s ability to be an interesting and entertaining interviewer was completely derailed by his references to his divorces, so Anderson’s decision is understandable and commendable. For Anderson is an honorable man. Regardless of what some people seem to think, such as those who [seem to think](http://www.washblade.com/2005/10-21/view/editorial/come-out.cfm) that if a super-rich beyond-reproach hot-commodity highly respected celebrity who lives in the nation’s largest and arguably most accepting city is afraid to come out then it sends the message that gay is still not okay and it reinforces the decisions of schoolteachers in Kentucky and officer workers in Milwaukee and city council members in Neverheardofitville, Louisiana to make themselves miserable by remaining in the closet while at the same time depriving suicidal gay youth of a potential role model who’s not a washed up TV star pimping a book or a disgraced married politician or a rock star caught hanging it out to an undercover cop, I think Cooper’s decision is understandable and commendable. Besides, we all know he’s a big old queen who’ll come out in a few years when his career’s in decline or he’s caught importuning a 19 year old Peruvian CUNY student in a deli anyway, so why rush [del]her[/del]him? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270/51 "2008-03-17T04:20:42Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Mudd] I don’t think Anderson meets the qualifications for the qualifier there, does he? [/QUOTE] Cooper’s own words are > [@](#): > > But I just don’t talk about my personal life. It’s a decision I made a long time ago, before I ever even knew anyone would be interested in my personal life. Very understandable and commendable. I don’t remember whether he said this before, after, or in his bestselling memoir about his life or maybe it was during one of his aired interviews with his mother, or in one of his essays about his father (the out-of-print author Wyatt Cooper), or perhaps in one of the interviews about coping with his brothers’ suicide, but his decision not to discuss his personal life is understandable and commendable. I mean, was anybody out there ever able to watch NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw without thinking “Yeah, he’s married to a former Miss South Dakota and has kid again, what does he know about Islamic terrorists?”, while Johnny Carson’s ability to be an interesting and entertaining interviewer was completely derailed by his references to his divorces, so Anderson’s decision is understandable and commendable. For Anderson is an honorable man. Regardless of what some people seem to think, such as those who [seem to think](http://www.washblade.com/2005/10-21/view/editorial/come-out.cfm) that if a super-rich beyond-reproach hot-commodity highly respected celebrity who lives in the nation’s largest and arguably most accepting city is afraid to come out then it sends the message that gay is still not okay and it reinforces the decisions of schoolteachers in Kentucky and officer workers in Milwaukee and city council members in Neverheardofitville, Louisiana to make themselves miserable by remaining in the closet while at the same time depriving suicidal gay youth of a potential role model who’s not a washed up TV star pimping a book or a disgraced married politician or a rock star caught hanging it out to an undercover cop, I think Cooper’s decision is understandable and commendable. Besides, we all know he’s a big old queen who’ll come out in a few years when his career’s in decline anyway, so why rush [del]her[/del]him? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-and-john-gibson-both-shows-shitcanned/441270.md?page=2)