# Tucker Carlson deserves to be afraid

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 9, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235 "2018-11-09T10:47:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/181 "2018-11-15T09:01:55Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Carlson is one of the few to make up for his warmongering by being stridently antiwar in recent times. Of course you would rather him be a Max Boot or David Brooks type. Debase himself for leftist approval and maintain his warmongering posture.

And so has Michael Savage. He supported Trump as the peace candidate who wouldn’t get us into wars. John Bolton is the one member of the cabinet Dr. Savage really detests. Savage speaks of the Iraq war as a mistake, and it’s funny because I listened to him quite a bit from 2002-2006 and don’t really remember that kind of talk from him at all. There are credibility and moral foundation hurdles with some people I don’t think you would understand.

Just a heads up for those who might speak ill of Dr. Savage in the future, prepare to be called out on your warped priorities.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/182 "2018-11-15T11:06:10Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I have the same request:
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> Cite? And for that specific claim you made to me.
> 
> And yes, you’ve set yourself a very high bar for yourself.

Wow, that’s some extreme ignorance about the US military. If you’re truly interested, you can look into it yourself… I don’t feel like educating you on the topic.

> [@](#):
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> And while we’re at it, I’m unaware of the claim you made regarding Shodan and the phrase “n\*\*\*\*\*s”. Can you cite what you’re talking about there? Thanks.

I’ll let you google this one, too. He knows what I’m talking about… it doesn’t really matter to me if you don’t.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/183 "2018-11-15T13:52:13Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Wow, that’s some extreme ignorance about the US military. If you’re truly interested, you can look into it yourself… I don’t feel like educating you on the topic.

But you made the claim. So, show a cite that supports it. That’s how this works.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’ll let you google this one, too. He knows what I’m talking about… it doesn’t really matter to me if you don’t.

Either that, or I can just assume that your characterization isn’t accurate. The latter seems like a safe bet.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/184 "2018-11-15T14:10:16Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> But you made the claim. So, show a cite that supports it. That’s how this works.
> 
> Either that, or I can just assume that your characterization isn’t accurate. The latter seems like a safe bet.

This is the Pit, not GD, and you can assume anything you like. Feel free to ignore the fact that he hasn’t even tried to deny it.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/185 "2018-11-15T14:24:37Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is the Pit, not GD, and you can assume anything you like. Feel free to ignore the fact that he hasn’t even tried to deny it.

Yes, I’m going to assume that you, once again, made some grand claim that you’d _like_ to be true, that you _believe_ is true, and therefore _must_ be true, but cannot support.

As far as your second sentence, I don’t know what you mean by “it”.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/186 "2018-11-15T14:28:20Z")

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Just for poops:

> [@Living while black in America](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/773):
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> Uggh. I really have to stop engaging with **Shodan** about race. I came across this thread: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=830768&page=3](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=830768&page=3) in which **Shodan** insists that certain black people [should be considered as n-words](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20337966&postcount=58), and justifies this belief by citing a Chris Rock comedy bit.
> 
> Blech. I get it, this is how you feel, and we don’t have to discuss this any longer. I hope you don’t pass this awful stuff on to your children.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/187 "2018-11-15T14:43:51Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I get responding to others. But **WillFarnaby** is so much into right wing conspiracy theories that he just repeats nonsense. He’s just a crackpot. It just seems to be a waste of time to me.
> 
> As for the response to me: I’m talking about their official Twitter account for SmashRacismDC that did the protest. They said that Carlson needs to know he isn’t safe, and doxxed his brother and his friend (getting their Twitter account banned), along with the videos of the actual protest. The same organization wrote to Ted Cruz, Trump, and others that “You are not safe. We will find you.” They are using deliberately threatening language. So it is no wonder that people thought they said what they said.
> 
> This isn’t about some randos. And I’m not attacking Antifa as a whole. Just this SmashRacismDC. These fuckers don’t get that we cannot be seen as the violent thugs. Protests are very often about aesthetics. People need to see you as the victim, not the perpetrator.
> 
> And I’m not saying that Republicans haven’t done bad stuff. But you need to only fight back in kind when they do so. When it just seems like you showed up at some guys house appropos of nothing, not even being sure he was actually there to hear your protest, then you seem like you’re the one picking the fight.
> 
> And you don’t actually scare these guys. You give them footage for their political ads.

I have rarely read more than a sentence of your rambling walls of text, but since you are attempting to smear me I will respond with a simple challenge: Name one conspiracy theory I have pushed.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/188 "2018-11-15T14:58:25Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> And so has Michael Savage. He supported Trump as the peace candidate who wouldn’t get us into wars. John Bolton is the one member of the cabinet Dr. Savage really detests. Savage speaks of the Iraq war as a mistake, and it’s funny because I listened to him quite a bit from 2002-2006 and don’t really remember that kind of talk from him at all. There are credibility and moral foundation hurdles with some people I don’t think you would understand.
> 
> Just a heads up for those who might speak ill of Dr. Savage in the future, prepare to be called out on your warped priorities.

Yes it is very brave to take an antiwar stance. Antiwar Americans have been slandered throughout US history and there is no paycheck in it.

It is much easier and lucrative to aid and abet world militarism by day and slander opponents of your livelihood as racists by night.

Speaking of which…

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This isn’t my claim (certainly nothing about “facile diversities”)… but since you seem constitutionally incapable of engaging honestly and reasonably with a liberal/progressive on this board, I’m not going to bother trying to explain it to you. You’re a weird and hostile guy and your shtick is boring.

Imagine my surprise when you elevate skin color as being so important to success. You completely deny agency to Black Americans and other minorities and claim that their well-being is a function of what the white man does.

Yes I’m a bit hostile towards baby bayonettors and Trump minions. I pray that your writing career takes off so you will not have to aid and abet world militarism and live with such cognitive dissonance and inner turmoil.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/189 "2018-11-15T15:01:21Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Imagine my surprise when you elevate skin color as being so important to success. You completely deny agency to Black Americans and other minorities and claim that their well-being is a function of what the white man does.
> 
> Yes I’m a bit hostile towards baby bayonettors and Trump minions. I pray that your writing career takes off so you will not have to aid and abet world militarism and live with such cognitive dissonance and inner turmoil.

Imagine my surprise when your continued fantasies about my beliefs have pretty much nothing to do with my actual beliefs. I’m sorry you continue to think you’re able to read minds, and that you continue to utterly fail in comprehending my posts. Nothing in the above paragraphs have anything to do with my actual person or beliefs, aside from the observation that I’d like to make a living writing.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/190 "2018-11-15T15:11:35Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Imagine my surprise when your continued fantasies about my beliefs have pretty much nothing to do with my actual beliefs. I’m sorry you continue to think you’re able to read minds, and that you continue to utterly fail in comprehending my posts. Nothing in the above paragraphs have anything to do with my actual person or beliefs, aside from the observation that I’d like to make a living writing.

Reading the blurb you posted, I also pray that you have not made radical pacifists into boogedymen, but I am not confident.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/191 "2018-11-15T15:16:41Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Reading the blurb you posted, I also pray that you have not made radical pacifists into boogedymen, but I am not confident.

More gibberish from a hostile fantasist. I have no illusions that my actual posts have anything to do with your hallucinations about me (which seem almost disturbingly detailed), so I’m not going to go to much effort aside from pointing out that, once again, your posts about me have pretty much zero to do with my actual posts or beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/192 "2018-11-15T15:20:51Z")

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Haha. You dudes have finally exhausted \*\*iiandyiiii’s \*\*patience. Who else are you going to debate your racist bullshit with when he is spent?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/193 "2018-11-15T19:17:13Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Just for poops:

🙂

Don’t let them bring you down iiandyiiii.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/194 "2018-11-15T20:12:36Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Haha. You dudes have finally exhausted \*\*iiandyiiii’s \*\*patience. Who else are you going to debate your racist bullshit with when he is spent?

iiiandyiiiii, of course.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/195 "2018-11-15T20:14:15Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> iiiandyiiiii, of course.

Okay, _that’s_ quality shitposting.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/196 "2018-11-15T21:16:26Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Are you friggin kidding me?! When asked to support your claim about what I have said you cite what _people other than me_ have said? Are you a clown? Or just a dishonest idiot that is too stupid to realize that his clumsy sleight of hand would be noticed by anyone with able to see the words on the screen.
> 
> And for the record, you dumbbell, I don’t watch or care for Judge Jeanine and think things like “democrats”, “libtards”, etc. are simple childish stupidity. The kind of things idiocy I’d expect you to use if you were on the right.
> 
> So, how about you stop you’re lying and embarrassing yourself in your lame attempt to support it.

Your post is my cite that you are using hateful and dismissive language, my friend.

I don’t really know you from adam, and you only really showed up on my radar recently when you deliberately mischaracterized my position on abortion in order to call me grotesque.

In this thread, where I specifically said that I do not condone septimus’s statement, but I can understand why one would make such a statement when they are being dehumanized, you use hateful and dismissive language in order to call me delusional, septimus vile, and not only referring to my post that does not condone septimus’s statement a crock of shit, but also to refer to most of the rest of the board in the same way.

It’s The Pit, so your hatefulness is perfectly acceptable, but it is still you undercutting any moral high ground you may think to stand on when it comes to the tone of posts.

If you really don’t realize how hateful that you come across, you should take a step back and consider your posts.

If you do realize how hateful your posts come across, troll on, my friend, troll on.

Just don’t think that even for a second that anyone at all is fooled.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/197 "2018-11-16T01:03:42Z")

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Oh, **mags** hasn’t held any moral high ground in at least 14 years.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/198 "2018-11-16T01:17:58Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Yes it is very brave to take an antiwar stance. Antiwar Americans have been slandered throughout US history and there is no paycheck in it.

On the contrary, it’s easy to take an antiwar stance when there is no actual war under discussion. Also easy to take an antiwar stance when you’re not discussing military spending. Opposing an actual war is a heavier lift, though much of the populace in other OECD countries seems to do so without breaking a sweat.

Tucker Carlson c 2012: [" I do think, I’m sure I’m the lone voice in saying this, that Iran deserves to be annihilated. I think they’re lunatics. I think they’re evil."](https://thinkprogress.org/tucker-carlson-iran-deserves-to-be-annihilated-806eb7db32f7/)

No, Tucker you aren’t a lone voice saying something like that: there are plenty of conservative madmen around.

## Full disclosure, in July 2018, Carlson said on his show that, “An Iran War would destroy Trump’s Presidency.” While true, that’s not quite the full throated denouncement I would like to hear, given that for a start Iran has three times the landmass and twice the population of Iraq.

Also for my more general readership, for a non-clownish assessment of the prospects of a US-Iran war, [James Fallows](http://vagabondscholar.blogspot.com/2007/02/fallows-on-war-with-iran.html) provides a good start.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/199 "2018-11-16T04:07:02Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Your post is my cite that you are using hateful and dismissive language, my friend.

But that was not your original claim, was it? No, it wasn’t. See the reminder below.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I don’t really know you from adam, and you only really showed up on my radar recently when you deliberately mischaracterized my position on abortion in order to call me grotesque.

Did I call you grotesque? Or a particular position you put forth? There is a big difference. One would support your claim here, one would undermine it. Let’s check. Here is what I actually said:

> [@magellan01](#):
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> Thanks for the explanation. But if your position is “until the baby is born”, that, IMO, is a grotesque standard, and one that tempts me to join the Pro-Life side.

Well, look at that. I did not call you grotesque. I characterized _a position_ that you _may_ hold as grotesque. And do so rather politely. So, I’d thank you to not lie about what I’ve said from here on out.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> In this thread, where I specifically said that I do not condone septimus’s statement, but I can understand why one would make such a statement when they are being dehumanized, you use hateful and dismissive language…

Please. Spare me your verbal dancing. Here’s what this is about:

(emphasis mine)

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Fuck off. You **constantly demonize and dehumanize all of a democratic persuasion**. You **treat your political opponents as enemies to be defeated at all costs** , not as fellow citizens with whom you can compromise and work together to achieve shared goals.

These were you main two claims. And they are complete bullshit. As I said in my response here below. Read it again. And as it suggests, read the thread again.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> More complete bullshit from you. Unsurprising as it is. I do not believe, or want, my political enemies to be defeated “at all costs”. And, naturally, have never expressed that view. Your “at all cost” calculus is what is pushed by you and of your shitty ilk. Want proof, dopey? Reread the thread.

And then, to double down on your combo of dishonesty and/or ignorance of how to support a claim you made about what I supposedly said, you cited OTHER people saying the things you claimed I said. As I _have_ said. Unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-deserves-to-be-afraid/824235/200 "2018-11-17T21:09:34Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> After the police report was revealed to directly refute Carlson’s account, this appears to be turning into a generic Pit thread for Carlson.
> 
> Which is fine by me – he’s a white nationalist, if not a full blown white supremacist. Fuck any and everyone who gives rhetorical aid and comfort to white supremacists.
> 
> Some of his greatest (bigoted) hits:
> 
> [Tucker Carlson Goes Full White Nationalist](https://www.theroot.com/the-caucasian-kanye-tucker-carlson-has-gone-full-white-1829492567)
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> [Tucker Carlson Explains Why White People Aren’t ‘Designed’ to Live Around Immigrants](https://www.theroot.com/tucker-carlson-explains-why-white-people-arent-designed-1823973839)
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> [Tucker Carlson Proves He's Not a White Nationalist by Doubling Down on How Terrible Diversity Is | GQ](https://www.gq.com/story/tucker-carlson-white-nationalist-diversity-terrible)
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/09/12/sorry-tucker-carlson-but-there-are-plenty-of-reasons-why-diversity-really-is-americas-strength/?utm\_term=.be58122349d2](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/09/12/sorry-tucker-carlson-but-there-are-plenty-of-reasons-why-diversity-really-is-americas-strength/?utm_term=.be58122349d2)
> 
> [https://splinternews.com/tucker-carlsons-racist-dog-whistle-of-the-night-is-whit-1829454231](https://splinternews.com/tucker-carlsons-racist-dog-whistle-of-the-night-is-whit-1829454231)

Andy: I documented Tucker Carlson’s popularity with white supremicists upthread, as well as one of his shows reflecting stone cold bigotry. The Root isn’t the greatest source though, at least for cross aisle conversation. They post diatribe along with a video link. Contrast to Media Matters for America which posts a) claim about the media commentator, b) substantiation, c) video, _and a transcript_ showing the false or bigoted remarks in context. Much better.

The WAPO link was an op-ed piece by neo-conservative Max Boot. That’s more promising. It ably addressed a quote/challenge by Tucker Carlson which was, “How, precisely, is diversity our strength?” demanded the product of La Jolla, Calif.; St. George’s School; and Trinity College. “Since you’ve made this our new national motto, please be specific as you explain it. Can you think, for example, of other institutions such as, I don’t know, marriage or military units in which the less people have in common, the more cohesive they are? Do you get along better with your neighbors, your co-workers if you can’t understand each other or share no common values? Please be honest as you answer this question.”

(My answer: Conservative insularity is a recipe for civilization collapse: think about China banning foreign travel and being swamped by the Europeans 100 years later, or consider Albania during the days of the Soviet Empire).

> **[500 years ago, China destroyed its world-dominating navy because its...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/500-years-ago-china-destroyed-its-worlddominating-navy-because-its-political-elite-was-afraid-of-free-trade-a7612276.html)**
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> Sound familiar?

In the 1400s, China owned the greatest seagoing fleet in the world, up to 3,500 ships at its peak. (The U.S. Navy today has only 430). Some of them were five times the size of the ships being built in Europe at the time.

But by 1525, all of China’s “Treasure Fleet” ships had been destroyed – burned in their docks or left to rot by the government. China had been poised to circumnavigate the globe decades before the Europeans did, but instead the Ming Dynasty retracted into itself and entered a 200-year-long slump. They thought that their was no need to interact with foreigners, because of their innate superiority. Conservative insularity destroyed the Chinese civilization. They could have conquered California and East Africa. Only via free trade and openness have they prospered.  
Anyway iiandyiiii, I’d respectfully suggest reflection upon who your intended audience is when you shape your arguments.

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