# Tucker Carlson - How many people in Iran

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 19, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827 "2025-06-19T01:02:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/21 "2025-06-21T18:10:51Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> You learned something today. Show some gratitude.

I am grateful. I saw multiple spellings on the internet so I picked one at random. It’s good to know the definitely correct one.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/22 "2025-06-21T21:07:24Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> You haven’t given an example of anything specific that was false or egregious, yet you were made angry by it?

If this were an article, I substantiate immediately. Since it’s a you-tube vid, the process takes longer.

> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> If you want substantiation, I’ll probably peel this off to another thread. Do you think the first few minutes of the video were representative of Vaush’s commentary? What would be the best minute to view? You don’t have to answer those questions, but if I’m going to dive deeper, I’d want to [steelman](https://cat.org.uk/external-resources/the-steel-man-technique/#:~:text=How%20To%20Argue%20Better%20And,argument%20and%20engages%20with%20that) my argument.

> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> I find he has a tendency to state his opinions as incontrovertible fact.

Assert - assert - assert. It’s a garbage way of informing or misinforming your audience, however common on TV and video.

> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> But I can also get the facts from other sources that are a little more editorially neutral.

I have no problem dealing with an opinionated commentator. I do have a problem with someone who states dubious and tendentious opinions as facts, without substantiation or even allusion to the underlying controversy.

That said, I acknowledged above the necessity of fighting fire with fire. Better to shovel leftish unsubstantiated assertions at gullible men than fascist unsubstantiated assertions.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/23 "2025-06-21T22:20:47Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> If this were an article, I substantiate immediately. Since it’s a you-tube vid, the process takes longer

Since this is the Pit, I’ll say you’re completely full of shit.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/24 "2025-06-21T23:06:33Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Since this is the Pit, I’ll say you’re completely full of shit.

You do you. Since you haven’t answered my clarifying questions (posed in response to _your_ question [above](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/18)), I conclude you don’t _really_ want substantiation.

Not sure why you think I’m making an amazing, gobsmacking claim. I substantiate my arguments here all the time, but typically not in response to You-tube vids, which trend horseshit.

Here’s an example of someone I attacked vociferously while providing substantiation:

> [@NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1888):
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> [Steven Calabresi](https://reason.com/people/steven-calabresi/) is a law professor at the Northwestern Pritzker School of Law who once worked in the Reagan administration under Edwin Meese. He is not listed under “Who We Are”, though he has penned a number of articles at the website. Based upon the linked article, he is a complete hack. He asserts without evidence that this fraud is a victimless crime, despite [fairly high profile pieces saying the opposite](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/28/opinion/donald-trump-fraud-case.html). Now you can be wrong and still be a good scholar - this happens all the time. But when you flatly assert something without evidence that any informed peer of yours knows is dubious at best, you are a hack. If Mr. Calabresi _discussed_ whether this fraud was a victimless crime and wrongly concluded that it was that would be different. That’s not what he did. The opinions of Steven Calabresi should generally be ignored as he is a wholly unreliable narrator.
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> Mr. Calabresi needs to rethink his life choices, as does the staff of the Volokh conspiracy. But I stress I’ve read some terrific articles there, and Volokh himself has a healthy curiosity about the world. Their politics generally differs from mine, but I’ve learned a lot from their articles. Differing perspectives can aid in the fight against ignorance, but the process isn’t automatic. You have to be both an independent thinker _and_ avoid tendentious nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/25 "2025-06-21T23:41:23Z")

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Two miserable excuses for human beings shouting at each other. I loathe them both equally.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/26 "2025-06-22T11:08:46Z")

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Between the two of them, I’d root for a technical equipment failure.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/27 "2025-06-22T13:46:06Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> You do you. Since you haven’t answered my clarifying questions (posed in response to _your_ question [above](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/18)), I conclude you don’t _really_ want substantiation.

Your “clarifying questions” were you asking me to do your work for you. I don’t need to point out any particular minute of the video because I don’t know what point you ever thought you had.  
You implied that Vaush made bad or false assertions, I’m happy to hear what they are. I’ve disagreed with Vaush on a few things in the past, so it would be no great relevation. But instead you’re going on about “substantiation”.

> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I substantiate my arguments here all the time

Sure you do. Just not here, apparently.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/28 "2025-06-22T19:02:49Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Between the two of them, I’d root for a technical equipment failure.

Preferably involving high voltage electricity.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/29 "2025-06-22T19:31:09Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Preferably involving high voltage electricity.

No. No I wouldn’t.

That might be interpreted as wishing harm on someone… and as we both know from my wrongful ban in the Gun News Threads, there is at least one cock sucking son of a bitch bastard whose father loved fucking sheep and whose mother and sisters loved fucking dogs who would just love fap his goo by reporting me.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/30 "2025-06-22T19:39:20Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> No. No I wouldn’t

I didn’t mention the amps…

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/31 "2025-06-22T20:17:37Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> You implied that Vaush made bad or false assertions, I’m happy to hear what they are. I’ve disagreed with Vaush on a few things in the past, so it would be no great relevation. But instead you’re going on about “substantiation”.

Can you tell us which of Vaush’s takes you _do_ agree with, so we don’t waste everyone’s times?

Do you agree with him when he says that Israel should be destroyed in nuclear fire?

Do you agree with him when he says he trusts Iran with nukes more than Israel (presumably because he knows they’d use it to wipe Israel out, a goal he agrees with)?

Do you agree with him when he says that there’s nothing weird about his love of horse on human porn?

I’d say all of those are _bad or false assertions_, but if those aren’t the assertions Vaush makes that you agree with, we don’t need to waste time on those.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/32 "2025-06-22T20:26:27Z")

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The sexual tension was palpable. They couldn’t take their eyes off of each other.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/33 "2025-06-23T08:15:16Z")

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Have they changed the rules? I’ve always understood that wishing death on posters and on classes of people was strictly forbidden, and that wishing death on private individuals was problematic, but that public figures were fair game. If, for instance, I were to hope for the defenestration of Vladmir Putin, would I be placing my posting privileges at risk?

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/34 "2025-06-23T11:05:49Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Can you tell us which of Vaush’s takes you _do_ agree with, so we don’t waste everyone’s times?

What’s wasting everyone’s time is this continued attempt to go off-topic.

Yes there are lots of things I agree with him on; on climate change, the rise of China, the genocide in Gaza etc. It’s not a thread on Vaush so I’ll leave it at that.

In terms of this video, the reason for linking that channel was just that:

1. He plays the whole interview
2. He points out what Cruz cannot say about Netanyahu, which makes it more entertaining watching Cruz squirm over Tucker’s repeated pressing.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/35 "2025-06-26T21:16:07Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Have they changed the rules? I’ve always understood that wishing death on posters and on classes of people was strictly forbidden, and that wishing death on private individuals was problematic, but that public figures were fair game. If, for instance, I were to hope for the defenestration of Vladmir Putin, would I be placing my posting privileges at risk?

You’ve pretty much got it. There’s a bit of fuzziness around “classes of people,” depending on how you’re defining “classes.” Generally, “protected classes” (as understood in US law) are off limits, but classes based on ideology or behavior are usually okay - “Kill all the Chinese” is out, but “Kill everyone in Al Qaeda” is acceptable.

For publicly recognizable figures, “wishing harm” is fine, but threats of violence could be a problem, especially with political figures. Anyone threatening any sort of violence against a sitting politician is going to get moderated, but “I hope Trump chokes to death on a corndog,” would not.

Sufficient hyperbole or cartoon imagery is also going to usually get a pass. “I’m going to throw Sabrina Carpenter into the sun,” is not generally going to draw a mod note.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/36 "2025-07-23T23:33:01Z")

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Burger King commercial from 1977:

> **[America's Burger King commercial 1977](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ3ugB74UNU%2F)**
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> One of Burger King's less-remembered ad campaigns- "America loves burgers, and we're America's burger king!" Watch this for yet more reasons why the 70s was...

200 million people. Has that number changed?

I doubt Cruz knows even that. Like, what is there some kind of count or something?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/37 "2025-07-23T23:50:11Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> 200 million people. Has that number changed?

That obviously cannot be correct, because their population is not quite 100 million today.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/38 "2025-07-24T00:03:59Z")

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In 1977. there were about 200 million people in the USA. That’s a Burger King commercial. There are about 335 million now (I was part of the Census in 2010 and I reckon there are more now!)

I am not a Senator, yet Cruz’ best answer would have been something like “Iran has a population of 80 million plus, like Turkey and Germany”

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/39 "2025-07-24T00:16:58Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> In 1977. there were about 200 million people in the USA. That’s a Burger King commercial

Gotcha, I saw from the preview that it was a Burger King commercial, but since 1977 was before 1979 I figured it might have been a commercial that mentioned Burger King operating in Iran. But I suppose not!

I figured you’d fat fingered an extra 0 and that the population in 1977 was 20 million - I don’t see a population table that goes back to the 70s with a quick Google search, but it seems like the right ballpark given the population in the 80s.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-how-many-people-in-iran/1019827/40 "2025-07-24T00:27:58Z")

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How many people in Iran?  
All of them.

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