# Tucker Carlson Leaves Fox News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 24, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119 "2023-04-24T16:08:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/221 "2023-04-26T14:58:01Z")

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> [@Palo\_Verde](#):
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> " Tucker Carlson’s firing from Fox News came after he used vulgar language to describe a network executive, the [Wall Street Journal reported](https://www.wsj.com/articles/tucker-carlsons-vulgar-offensive-messages-about-colleagues-helped-seal-his-fate-at-fox-news-e52b3cc5?mod=hp_lead_pos1).
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> Carlson described a senior [Fox News](https://www.theguardian.com/media/fox-news) executive as a C-word in a text message obtained by lawyers as part of a defamation lawsuit between the network and Dominion Voting Systems, according to the Journal, which like Fox is part of the Murdoch media empire."

Didn’t Fox tell us some time ago that this sort of thing is just locker room talk?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/222 "2023-04-26T15:15:22Z")

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Did God need cause to cast Satan into hell?

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/223 "2023-04-26T15:35:11Z")

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Exactly, when an employer wants an employee gone they will start documenting things and slant them in their favor to show cause. The walk out the door is just the showmanship part of their plan. Now comes the lawyers and my popcorn.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/224 "2023-04-26T15:35:12Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Tucker was not fired, just taken off the air.

I like this one. It’s like he’s secretly training in the jungles of Cambodia for a big come back. SMH

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/225 "2023-04-26T15:38:33Z")

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It’s like all those rumors that Elvis is still alive, except Carlson isn’t a singer and is almost certainly a much more vile human being. Also, Carlson is still alive.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/226 "2023-04-26T15:42:27Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> The fact that they have 8 sources who are willing to talk about it is itself interesting. I wonder if that’s common in big businesses?

Reading the article it seems to me like less of an Oppo file and more of a documenting his offenses so that they can prove he was fired for cause. Basically a list of everything they gave him a pass on until now. I think this is probably pretty common, and is actually [recommended practice](https://smallbusiness.chron.com/elements-must-included-documenting-employee-termination-17686.html). Think of it like the principal of the school presenting your “permanent record” when the explain why you are being expelled.

When I think Oppo research I think a more comprehensive pile of dirt that includes embarrassing information beyond the workplace, like pictures of him visiting a prostitute.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/227 "2023-04-26T15:43:50Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Also, Carlson is still alive.

Allegedly. Has anyone seen him lately?

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/228 "2023-04-26T16:19:33Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> When I think Oppo research I think a more comprehensive pile of dirt that includes embarrassing information beyond the workplace, like pictures of him visiting a prostitute

A male prostitute, and Tucker is catching instead of pitching.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/229 "2023-04-26T16:20:19Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> > [@Broomstick](#):
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> > Also, Carlson is still alive.
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> Allegedly. Has anyone seen him lately?

Clones are the big things nowadays - alot of people have been killed (thru gitmo hangings, tribunals, etc) and replaced with clones so that everyone/noone knows.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/230 "2023-04-26T19:27:57Z")

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So there’s six-pack of Tucker Clonesons stored somewhere in Fox?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/231 "2023-04-26T19:30:05Z")

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That’s physically impossible, surely a black hole of assholery would devour the place in 2 seconds flat.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/232 "2023-04-26T19:32:16Z")

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Now I have weird mashup of The Black Hole playing in my mind, with Trump as the big ugly orange robot. “Save me from MAGAimillian!”

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/233 "2023-04-26T20:17:56Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> As were Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck. IIRC both of them were at the top of the Fox line-up when they were fired, and neither managed to do anything really significant afterwards.

Not true at all. Glenn Beck has been more successful since he left Fox. He makes $20-$40 million a year from The Blaze, plus his radio show ( he got a five-year, $100 million contract for that), and speaking fees. His net worth is over $150 million.

His salary at Fox was a small part of his earnings:

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> How much does Glenn Beck make per year? Glenn has been known to make $30 – $40 million per year personally thanks to his vast empire of radio shows, book sales, television pursuits and TheBlaze TV. For example, back in 2010 when Glenn was still on Fox News, he made $32 million. Interestingly only $2 million of that total amount came from Fox. He made $3 million from speaking events, $4 million from his website and online store. His two biggest sources of income that year were radio and book sales. Radio generated $10 million and book sales generated $13 million.

> **[Glenn Beck Net Worth](https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/glenn-beck-net-worth/)**
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> What is Glenn Beck's net worth?

Incidentally, Beck has offered Tucker a job on The Blaze. Probably for many millions per year.

O’Reilly hasn’t been as successful, but he has a top-100 podcast, has written several books, and has a website that gets about a million visitors per month. He probably also still gets speaking fees and whatnot.

Carlson has it made. He’s the kind of personality you can build a franchise around. That makes him incredibly valuable to media startups or insurgents looking to gain a mass audience. I expect a bidding war for him, and he’ll probably make more money than ever. Or maybe he’ll go the Beck route and try to start his own media empire. And his next book will make a fortune.

Carlson doesn’t need the money anyway. His father was already rich when he married into the Swanson food family. But Tucker earned his money, and has a net worth of $370 million. He doesn’t really need anyone.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/234 "2023-04-26T20:30:07Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> O’Reilly hasn’t been as successful, but he has a top-100 podcast, has written several books, and has a website that gets about a million visitors per month. He probably also still gets speaking fees and whatnot.

I think he’s also older than Beck or Carlson by a good bit, and probably okay with winding down his media career a bit at this point.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/235 "2023-04-26T20:44:56Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Not true at all. Glenn Beck has been more successful since he left Fox. He makes $20-$40 million a year from The Blaze, plus his radio show ( he got a five-year, $100 million contract for that), and speaking fees. His net worth is over $150 million.

Wow, this truly makes me weep for our society.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/236 "2023-04-26T20:52:12Z")

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Just remember the words of Bob Dylan:  
“All the money you made will never buy back your soul.”  
If it helps.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/237 "2023-04-26T21:07:18Z")

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If they all continue to suck up money from the rubes; less for the GQP. Though the price of their political souls has defied the current inflation trend and continues to drop precipitously each day.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/238 "2023-04-26T21:20:59Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> > [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> > Not true at all. Glenn Beck has been more successful since he left Fox. He makes $20-$40 million a year from The Blaze, plus his radio show ( he got a five-year, $100 million contract for that), and speaking fees. His net worth is over $150 million.
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> Wow, this truly makes me weep for our society.

This is the point I’ve been hobby-horsing about for a few years now.

Ordinary interest- and issue-based politics cannot possibly compete against profit-fueled profit-driven nihilist propaganda mis-sold as “news” or even as “opinion”.

BS & Rage simultaneously sell very, very, well and prevent the successful functioning of democracies. Not just harm the functioning; _prevent_.

Enough sand has already been poured in our gears that the seize-up of the machine is now inevitable and is most probably fairly imminent. And yet the sand rains down from the sky and pours forth in a great roar from every profit-seeking RW throat and to every RW faithful’s phone, tablet, and television 24/7/365.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/239 "2023-04-26T21:25:06Z")

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Re fired FoxNews personalities making a lot of money, I think that’s unimportant. A more important question is whether their influence goes down, and I think it does.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/240 "2023-04-26T21:33:58Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Just remember the words of Bob Dylan:  
> “All the money you made will never buy back your soul.”  
> If it helps.

I don’t give a flying fuck about their souls. It’s the damage that they have done to our society that I grieve for.

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