# Tucker Carlson Leaves Fox News **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 24, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119 "2023-04-24T16:08:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/61 "2023-04-24T18:10:40Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > What’s Peyton Manning doing with them? 😜 🤣. I think that may actually be Paul Begala, but there is a resemblence. (Also, just to clarify, I don’t think that Stewart was ever actually employed by CNN: the above screencap appears to be from a particular appearance that he made on _Crossfire_ in 2004, and at that time, he was hosting _The Daily Show_ on Comedy Central.) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/62 "2023-04-24T18:17:47Z")
Yeah, begging Carlson to take his journalist role more seriously and to stop undermining, well, everything. How did that work out for Stewart? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/63 "2023-04-24T18:19:48Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > And Trump and DeSantis are policy masterminds?! Well, we have a whole thread (started by moi) in which we discuss DeSantis’s political chances, and I’m not bullish on them: > [@DeSantis can't win the GOP nomination or the general election in 2024 {How Trump plays into this is allowed}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/desantis-cant-win-the-gop-nomination-or-the-general-election-in-2024-how-trump-plays-into-this-is-allowed/980249/): > > We talked a bit about Ron DeSantis in a thread I recently started here ([Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024/979953/)), so I thought we discuss his run in greater detail here. First, let’s not argue the point that DeSantis (or Haley) could theoretically win the GOP nomination. Either could, since there is no strong GOP candidate. But based on the current field (those two plus Trump, Pompeo, and a few even weaker prospects) whoever wins is going to be a weak candidate about whom few are ent… But no, I don’t think those two are anything-minds other than moron-minds. > [@](#): > > With the political environment as it is, Tucker would definitely be a threat. Smarter than Trump, more human than DeSantis and just as bigoted and hate-filled as both. And arguably as popular among the MAGA crowd as Trump. He’s popular as a _servant_ and _propagandist_ of MAGA, but Carlson is not the leader type. You get the Goebbels vs. Hitler distinction, right? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/64 "2023-04-24T18:25:55Z")
Crossfire got canceled and TC left CNN. Not that it stopped him from undermining things, but, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/65 "2023-04-24T18:33:16Z")
100% agree with you there. Both are facing potential penalties already and adding a Tucker Carlson just increases their risk(s). In a rational word I can’t see how they can afford to take on that possible liability and have their business survive. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/66 "2023-04-24T18:33:57Z")
I just watched the clip of that interview with Stewart and, boy, was he prophetic. And, the discourse has gotten so much worse. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/67 "2023-04-24T18:49:30Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > He’s popular as a _servant_ and _propagandist_ of MAGA, but Carlson is not the leader type. You get the Goebbels vs. Hitler distinction, right? Who is this Hit-ler of whom you speak? 🙄 Yes I get it, I just disagree. I don’t think of Trump as much of a leader. He gets on a stage and just whines about himself. He’s super popular because he threw away all the norms and just overtly came out with all the bigotry and tribalism, in a dumbed down way that appealed to people who didn’t want to hear nuance. Tucker can do all that, but without the whining. The only question to me is whether Tucker could trade personal attacks as effectively. But that’s not an issue of leadership. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/68 "2023-04-24T18:50:56Z")
If tuckums was trump’s vp, the MAGAts could breathe freer knowing they’d be in good hands should trump take his rightful place at the right hand side of God. ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/69 "2023-04-24T18:51:05Z")
I don’t have much else to add, except I was listening to an oldies channel on [Pandora.com](http://Pandora.com). Right after I saw this thread, “Na Na, Hey Hey, Kiss Him Goodbye” came on. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/70 "2023-04-24T18:51:09Z")
I posted on another board that I hope that golden parachute totally shreds on the way down. Maybe Russia Today, which was taken off YouTube when the Ukrainian war started, would take him? They’ll hire just about anybody. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/71 "2023-04-24T18:54:25Z")
Boy, I wish I could find a link to share showing spontaneous celebrations in the streets by New Yorkers upon hearing of Carlson being fired by Fox News (I saw it on (sheepish) TikTok (/sheepish). It made me smile to see so many happy people. I hope it gets posted somewhere more respectable. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/72 "2023-04-24T18:57:48Z")
It’s nothing without the actual video – about a minute. Worth it: **SORRY: NSFW (LANGUAGE). WATCH THROUGH THE END** > **[Jon Stewart humiliates Tucker Carlson in resurfaced clip](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/bT2UWEpU)** ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/73 "2023-04-24T19:26:51Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Who is this Hit-ler of whom you speak? 🙄 > > Yes I get it, I just disagree. > > I don’t think of Trump as much of a leader. He gets on a stage and just whines about himself. He’s super popular because he threw away all the norms and just overtly came out with all the bigotry and tribalism, in a dumbed down way that appealed to people who didn’t want to hear nuance. > > Tucker can do all that, but without the whining. > The only question to me is whether Tucker could trade personal attacks as effectively. But that’s not an issue of leadership. This. The public, or at least the R half of the public, has been conditioned to want a loud-mouth celebrity. TC is one such. They are not voting on somebody to be a functioning President. They are voting on someone to play President on reality TV. I don’t know how much TC writes his own material or at least brainstorms his own material to then be fleshed out by pro writers. Somebody playing President on reality TV can’t be totally incapable of ad libbing; that’s where DeSantis fails. If TC can ad lib, he’s got a good shot at it. Certainly a better shot than all the “Who’s that?” wannabe R primary candidates who’re hovering uncertainly in the wings. The only alternative explanation I can see is that he’s auctioned his allegiance to the highest bidder. And it’s Agent Orange, not Murdoch. My bottom line: IMO TC is in much too of high-profile a position to simply disappear; he’s going to be a mover and shaker for awhile yet. Whether as a news-maker or opinion-shaper remains to be seen. But one or the other for sure. And my bet’s on the former. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/74 "2023-04-24T19:39:51Z")
To the tune of “**[Imaginary Lover](https://youtu.be/tqLaVgdND_U)**” from the Atlanta Rhythm Section: Unemployment Tucker Nose orange and brown When Daddy Warbucks throws you away Go to ground Count your dirty treasure Fuck Democracy You never cared It’s just sociopathy Unemployment Tucker, get in line, you have time Unemployment Tucker, oh yeah. I’m here all week. Tip your bartenders! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/75 "2023-04-24T19:47:29Z")
White House press secretary. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/76 "2023-04-24T19:48:59Z")
If he works for Trump, he should stay away from windows. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/77 "2023-04-24T20:04:17Z")
Gift link from the NY Times. Apparently, Carlson had no heads-up this was coming. He was told this morning he’d done his last show on Friday. > **[Live Updates: Fox News Parts Ways With Tucker Carlson Days After Dominion...](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/24/business/tucker-carlson-fox-news?unlocked_article_code=wuLSST-xuK1GkxonGWVmwGxNxr4ATBNoQwqgcsfv10c-oyIKE88jTvRKR3mC8wAH9rObDQHNUkSpA2Ptu6D-3Nz6Vaq6iftc1sMWb2ht7Qmkc8Pl0rnr-ahzBi_V0jCLPjP9w2HLAOvin9-0QshiSU4bfpgAKZRveX4AqEkmcd0w5qz2sO6KUFVEKOsaAxhz4ZqCvPYlWCY0ruU3u-GcxMkwBVqc5OCKkAeKiIhuBXjrMUG5G4sfAhC3Dk6wsdC1eEKUhgsVylTdOXRLBEEKSU1Az9rmre7adELYOjmqskN8biAN7RLVhhm8mqA39LtoCCA-YhHYFKT9EiupNq4O17E5223W0d5S8zI_yA&giftCopy=3_Independent&smid=url-share)** > > The announcement came less than a week after the network agreed to pay $787.5 million in a defamation lawsuit in which Mr. Carlson’s show, one of the highest rated on Fox, figured prominently. He was said to be surprised by the move. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/78 "2023-04-24T20:18:05Z")
funny the thought was it was going to be small timers like pirro and maria whats her name on their finance channel getting the axe although they might be going still ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/79 "2023-04-24T20:20:03Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I don’t think of Trump as much of a leader. He gets on a stage and just whines about himself. He’s super popular because he threw away all the norms and just overtly came out with all the bigotry and tribalism, in a dumbed down way that appealed to people who didn’t want to hear nuance. He’s not a genuine leader at all. But Trump is good at playing the alpha dawg (he’s the alpha to morons only, but still–there are a lot of morons out there). > [@](#): > > Tucker can do all that, but without the whining. He can’t. DeSantis can’t either. It’s not easy to do. It’s like saying that any of the dumdums that opposed Trump in the 2016 GOP primary could have beaten him had they just been as big a dick as he is. No, they needed to show greater _dominance_ than Trump. Carlson is pure beta. (DeSantis, IMO, is a dickish alpha but nowhere near the caliber of Trump.) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/80 "2023-04-24T20:45:37Z")
Josh Marshall from Talking Points Memo (the best US politics news outlet, IMO) suggests that Fox wouldn’t make this decision lightly, even if Carlson and Fox Management had serious issues, considering his ratings. Rather, he suggests, there’s some bombshell about Carlson that is likely to come to light in the future – whether relating to the Abby Grossman lawsuit or something else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119.md?page=5)