# Tucker Carlson Leaves Fox News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 24, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119 "2023-04-24T16:08:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/81 "2023-04-24T20:54:00Z")

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But firing TC now can’t make Fox un-liable for whatever TC did related to the e.g. Grossman lawsuit or any as-yet unopened can of older worms.

It sure can cut TC off from causing further harm to Fox. With the implication that whatever Fox decided was intolerable, it was ongoing up to roughly Friday.

Ref these latest news tidbits, TC may have had no formal “warning” or even informal scuttlebutt that his firing was imminent. But assuming he has any self-awareness at all, he certainly ought to have figured there’d be blowback from the resolution of the Dominion case. Heck, there’s been internal blowback since the discovery phase started.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/82 "2023-04-24T21:00:28Z")

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Grossberg.

Yeah, I get it wrong all the time, too.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/83 "2023-04-24T21:03:06Z")

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Sorry if it’s already been asked and answered, but what happens to all that Jan 6 security footage that Kevin McCarthy turned over to Carlson? Does that stay with Fox?

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/84 "2023-04-24T21:07:35Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Who is this Hit-ler of whom you speak? 🙄
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> Yes I get it, I just disagree.
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> I don’t think of Trump as much of a leader. He gets on a stage and just whines about himself.

Hmmm. I’m starting to admire the Germans attracted to Hitler in 1933–at least they were riled about important stuff, like inflation and the Versailles treaty, not personal grievances and culture wars.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/85 "2023-04-24T21:09:48Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> He’s not a genuine leader at all. But Trump is good at playing the alpha dawg (he’s the alpha to morons only, but still–there are a lot of morons out there).

Sure but that concedes that you don’t need to be alpha for that audience to perceive you as alpha.

As I say, I’m not sure the extent to which Trump even plays the alpha dawg; he spends almost all of his time complaining about being treated unfairly and how mean the press is.

But, I don’t think our positions are so far apart. I can agree that Trump is a _bully_, and for some people that looks like alpha male to them. And I would agree that Tucker _may_ not be able to do that.

On the rare occasions that Tucker is confronted with an opposing view, he does the fake laugh thing then tries just talking over the other person. So perhaps he would fold under the schoolyard name-calling that Trump will bring?  
But then again, there was no _benefit_ to Tucker attempting to debate anyone…his audience certainly don’t want to hear his ideas get challenged. So I’d say it’s still unknown.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/86 "2023-04-24T21:14:06Z")

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Trump will be on Newsmax to comment on the firing tonight. Is he even aware of the texts Carlson sent that were disparaging?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/87 "2023-04-24T21:23:38Z")

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> [@slicedalone](#):
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> Hmmm. I’m starting to admire the Germans attracted to Hitler in 1933–at least they were riled about important stuff, like inflation and the Versailles treaty, not personal grievances and culture wars.

The right just hates a different set of people from the Nazis. It just wasn’t called a culture war back then.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/88 "2023-04-24T21:24:40Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Trump will be on Newsmax to comment on the firing tonight. Is he even aware of the texts Carlson sent that were disparaging?

It’s too bad he won’t be appearing on Faux, instead. I hear they have a bigger, much larger audience.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/89 "2023-04-24T21:41:04Z")

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The _best_ audience. Bigger than any other ever. Yuger even.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/90 "2023-04-24T21:47:12Z")

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I’m 90% that custody of those tapes will stay with Fox News. Tucker received those as an employee of Fox News.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/91 "2023-04-24T21:48:22Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I predict he’ll team up with Mike Lindell and start hawking a MyTesticalTanning machine.

Cartoonists are sad about Tucker being out of the limelight (for now). He was excellent fodder.

[![](https://resources.arcamax.com/newspics/228/22875/2287569.jpg) ](https://resources.arcamax.com/newspics/228/22875/2287569.jpg)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/92 "2023-04-24T21:54:20Z")

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If so I bet it’ll have a very soft pillowy seat upon which to sit/lie while your bits get tanned.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/93 "2023-04-24T22:14:02Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> However, some of the comments that Carlson had made about management in communications that turned up in the discovery process for the case may have also played a role in Carlson’s demise.

That is the [Washington Post’s](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/) take,

> But it was Carlson’s comments about Fox management, as revealed in the Dominion case, that played a role in his departure from Fox, a person familiar with the company’s thinking told The Post.
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> “Do the executives understand how much credibility and trust we’ve lost with our audience?” Carlson wrote to a colleague in a message a day after Fox, like other media outlets, called the election for Joe Biden. It was a sentiment echoed by others at Fox in the fall of 2020, as even network officials who disbelieved Trump’s election-fraud conspiracy theories [fretted that countering them strongly would alienate their conservative viewers](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/02/17/fox-news-dominion-ratings-fear/?itid=lk_inline_manual_9).
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> In another message, Carlson referred to management with an expletive: “Those f-----s are destroying our credibility.” He later wrote: “A combination of incompetent liberals and top leadership with too much pride to back down is what’s happening.”

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/94 "2023-04-24T22:15:55Z")

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What’s the story about all the testicle and taint tanning posts? Did Carlson push some kind of weird belief about the benefits of such a thing?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/95 "2023-04-24T22:16:59Z")

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Yep.

> **[Tucker Carlson Has a New Solution for Societal Collapse: Men Tanning Their Balls](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tucker-carlson-end-of-men-testicle-tanning-1338944/)**
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> The Fox News host is very concerned that men as he likes to imagine them — shirtless, muscular, brimming with testosterone — are going the way of the dodo

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/96 "2023-04-24T22:24:48Z")

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Haven’t read the whole thread, but Ozzy Osbourne says it best at the 1 hour 30 minute mark. Profanity alert, but you probably already guessed that.

ETA: Oh, wait, yeah, YouTube links may not post. It’s the movie “Decline of Western Civilization, Part II: The Metal Years.” If you’re wondering if it’s the movie where Ozzy makes breakfast, you’re right.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/97 "2023-04-24T22:26:14Z")

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Apparently, there will be rotating hosts taking over his spot for now. Maybe they took the idea from the Daily Show.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/98 "2023-04-24T22:36:22Z")

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Or Have I Got News For You, which has had a revolving host situation for 21 years now.

Edit: Hey, I have a cake by my name. 23 years on the web version of the Dope!

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/99 "2023-04-24T22:41:50Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Trump will be on Newsmax to comment on the firing tonight. Is he even aware of the texts Carlson sent that were disparaging?

Trump did acknowledge that Tucker said those things but he forgave him still needed to use him at Fox. It would be great if he turns against him now and calls him a big loser on Newsmax. MAGA loves Tucker but Trump can turn them against him as easily as he breathes.

But I doubt that will happen. Trump hates Fox even more so he’ll probably praise Tucker for getting away from those losers. And the fact that Trump could go either way on the matter must be giving Tucker heartburn right now. I wonder if Trump is taking his calls?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/100 "2023-04-24T22:42:14Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> He makes them so much money, and that’s a huge platform, something not easily duplicated elsewhere.

Sure, he helped them make a lot of money. Until the week he helped them _lose_ 3/4 of a billion dollars. Now he’s a liability.

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