# Tucker Carlson Leaves Fox News **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 24, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119 "2023-04-24T16:08:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/121 "2023-04-25T02:04:26Z")
The best comment I’ve seen thus far about this bit of news is: > Tuck around, find out. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/122 "2023-04-25T02:29:30Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > “Amicably”, no doubt, by mutual agreement. > > The word “amicably” was conspicuously absent in Kilmeade’s statement. I just find the “have agreed to part ways” phrasing beautifully ironic in light of what actually happened, wherein Tucker wasn’t doing much agreeing! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/123 "2023-04-25T02:30:35Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > “Amicably”, no doubt, by mutual agreement. Yes, with Carlson being informed of his “mutual” agreement 10 minutes before it was announced to the public. 😆 According to this [article](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/24/tucker-carlson-leaving-fox-news). > The Fox host Harris Faulkner addressed Carlson’s departure on air on Monday morning, saying the network and Carlson had “mutually” agreed to separate. > … > Carlson found out about his firing 10 minutes before it was announced, according to the [Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/tucker-carlson-is-leaving-fox-news-db31f2fa?mod=hp_lead_pos5). Alas, near as I can tell, we still haven’t heard a statement about the firing from Carlson himself, so my schadenfreude is incomplete ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/124 "2023-04-25T02:33:08Z")
Can you just imagine what kind of dirt they have on him? I can’t imagine he’d fight back too hard with the knowledge they helped hide several of the skeletons in his closet for him. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/125 "2023-04-25T02:46:05Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > He’ll be back somewhere before too long. Probably, but not any place reputable. He’s lost far too much credibility playing the unhinged lunatic on Fox. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/126 "2023-04-25T02:51:13Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > > > He’ll be back somewhere before too long. > > Probably, but not any place reputable. He’s lost far too much credibility playing the unhinged lunatic on Fox. - What makes you think he was playing? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/127 "2023-04-25T02:53:33Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I just find the “have agreed to part ways” phrasing beautifully ironic in light of what actually happened, wherein Tucker wasn’t doing much agreeing! 😃 It’s a bit fun to imagine it went this way: Murdoch: You’re fired. Carlson: You can’t fire me; I quit! The beauty of that is it still fits the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/128 "2023-04-25T02:55:19Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Yes, _that_ may have had quite a bit to do with how come Fox got rid of him first. More than just the issues with the reporting itself, he went directly into acting like _he_ should be calling the shots on _how to run the business_. Whatever its horrors, this is a private company, if he doesn’t like how management makes decisions, there’s the door. He committed the cardinal sin of any criminal organization: he went against the family. All the lies, the incitement to insurrection, the seditious conspiracy? No matter. It’s because of his disrespect to the bosses that he must be made an example of. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/129 "2023-04-25T02:57:25Z")
Carlson: “Who’s this guy at my desk?” Murdoch: “That’s Tim. Tim is here to help you pack your shit.” Carlson: “Huh?” Tim: “Put your shit in this box, asshole.” Carlson: “You can’t talk to me like th…” Tim: \< frog marches him out to the parking lot \> That’s how it went down in my imagination, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/130 "2023-04-25T03:00:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What makes you think he was playing? The internal texts obtained by Dominion suggest that at least some of his antics were performative, though I don’t doubt that he’s a genuine far-right loon. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/131 "2023-04-25T03:01:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I forget why Tan the Conman hates Fox now. Lately it’s been because Fox was not covering his “speeches” and rallies and has been giving DeSantis a lot of attention. And he wasn’t happy with the insider info from the Dominion case where pretty much everyone admitted they knew they were lying and the election was not stolen. He may get over all that when Murdoch realizes that DeSantis is not going to beat Trump and Murdock has to kiss the ring again for ratings. But that’s not just yet. [Inside the simmering feud between Donald Trump and Fox News - The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/08/trump-fox-feud/) > [@](#): > > Trump attacked Fox Chairman Rupert Murdoch by name this month, calling him and his executives a “group of MAGA hating Globalist RINOS” who are “aiding & abetting the destruction of America.” Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr. — noting that he had not been invited on the network in six months — accused Fox News leaders last week of harboring an “America Last, war forever, garbage, fold-to-the-Democrats agenda.” Other allies, such as Stephen K. Bannon, have shredded the network in public. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/132 "2023-04-25T03:03:20Z")
I think it took maybe just about a half-century, beginning with the movie, “The Candidate:” > **[The Candidate (1972 film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Candidate_(1972_film))** > > The Candidate is a 1972 American political comedy-drama film starring Robert Redford and Peter Boyle, and directed by Michael Ritchie. The Academy Award–winning screenplay, which examines the various facets and machinations involved in political campaigns, was written by Jeremy Larner, a speechwriter for Senator Eugene J. McCarthy during McCarthy's campaign for the 1968 Democratic presidential nomination. > Marvin Lucas (Peter Boyle), a political election specialist, must find a Democratic candida... Where the culmination of the film – Redford having, unimaginably, won a Senate seat – has Redford asking “**[What do we do now?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myEpap3TxVs)**” Couple that with a 318-page document, called, “A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News:” > **[Memo from 1970: 'A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News' - Poynter](https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/memo-from-1970-a-plan-for-putting-the-gop-on-tv-news/)** > > From person-to-person coaching and intensive hands-on seminars to interactive online courses and media reporting, Poynter helps journalists sharpen skills and elevate storytelling throughout their careers. These worlds were destined to collide. I think we were all witnesses to the inevitable, if dilatory, Right Wing Big Bang. There wasn’t an end game. There wasn’t an exit strategy. Nobody got there. That wasn’t mission critical. Ailes, in effect, gave them a road map to political hegemony – a road map that wasn’t perfect, but one that delivered better results than the policy prescriptions, or intrinsic value, of the party merited. Ailes envisioned, created, and headed The Shiny Object – maybe the closest thing the US has ever seen to pure State Media. But it did something other than keep the masses stultified and anesthetized. It angered, enraged, and awakened them. It brought them to the polls, intoxicated with a fury that they couldn’t quite explain, but replete with a laundry list of enemies and ‘others’ that – they were more than comfortable declaring – were the reason _for_ their rage. “What do we do now?” I can’t wait to find out. Fox News and its cohorts – those who survive the lawsuits yet to come – will NOT go gentle into that good night. It will, however, be fascinating to see what their next move really is. I have never watched either OANN or Newsmax, but they are players on the self-same stage; therefore, worth keeping an eye on. “May you live in interesting times…” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/133 "2023-04-25T03:04:18Z")
Good Lord! He’s still using the code word _globalists_ for people he doesn’t like. :smh: ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/134 "2023-04-25T03:10:22Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > > > And if he has to wait, say, six months to go back on the air, will anyone want him by then,. > > He is WILDLY popular among the right wing. As were Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck. IIRC both of them were at the top of the Fox line-up when they were fired, and neither managed to do anything really significant afterwards. I even heard one pundit suggest that Fox does this (firing their top talent, ratings wise), as a power move - just to prove that they can do so without losing their audience. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/135 "2023-04-25T03:23:51Z")
I suspect that Tucker will faff around for a while, and snark at his former superiors, and _probably_ try to gloss over his problems with Trump. Getting a position with DeSantis for Media relations might well be a coup for both parties, and I (if I was a betting person) would bet on that. It would make DeSantis look strong for ‘standing up to Fox’ they let Tucker go, and Tucker would be allll sorts of Smug about Fox having to go to him to smooze DeSantis. But, as @aurora_maire pointed out, it’s almost inevitable as things stand that Fox is going to have to go back to Trump “with tears in their eyes” and beg for access, as it doesn’t look like DS is going to be able to drag the MAGA out from under Trump this cycle at least. So after that, I would bet that Tucker tries to go with his own PodCast/Streaming show but that’s a pretty heavily crowded field, and going it alone will be expensive and difficult. After which, he’ll try to sign with someone, anyone to cover the next election cycle, only to find out his past habits have made him untouchable - no one will want to risk the defamation issues, no one will insure him, etc. So finally he’ll sulk out of the limelight and write the tell all book about his time with Fox, complete with the lies, hypocrisy, and how he was smarter than them all. And it’ll make bank. But he won’t likely ever get close to the power he had from the Fox pulpit which is a win, of sorts. ETA - “with tears in their eyes” because of course. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/136 "2023-04-25T03:24:58Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > > He later wrote: “A combination of incompetent liberals and top leadership with too much pride to back down is what’s happening.” > > Incompetent liberals work at Fox. Just realised I didn’t strip out the codes, so this made it look like I was quoting @Buck_Godot; meant to quote directly from the news article. Sorry, Buck! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/137 "2023-04-25T04:12:46Z")
Does anyone have objective info about how much Fox was paying TC? And how much money he was raking in on side gigs? Just trying to decide if the price for me to totally turn into an anti-American fascist slimeball is already on offer or not. Not really, but it’s a nice fantasy. Shame the left doesn’t have such deep pockets in the service of Good. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/138 "2023-04-25T05:26:39Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Does anyone have objective info about how much Fox was paying TC? > **[Tucker Carlson Made As Much As $20 Million A Year At Fox News](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-made-as-much-as-20-million-a-year-at-fox-news/?sh=204d60646879)** > > Carlson was reportedly among the highest paid people in news television before he was suddenly ousted from the Fox network on Monday. > Carlson, 53, was making between $15 million and $20 million a year hosting “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” Fox News’ staple one-hour long nightly talk show, according to a person familiar with contract negotiations at Fox and other networks. This was a couple years ago: > **[As Tucker Carlson justifies violence, Fox News is paying him $10 million a year](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/27/media/fox-news-pays-10m-tucker-carlson/index.html)** > > To understand why Tucker Carlson seems immune from consequences, despite constant controversy and condemnation, follow the millions. So that seems somewhat consistent. He was reportedly making $6M when he started in 2016. > **[Tucker Carlson Has an Impressive Net Worth: Get Details Amid FOX News Exit](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tucker-carlson-impressive-net-worth-164027064.html)** > > It pays to talk! Political commentator Tucker Carlson has been a well-known name in the news business and has been working in the industry for more than two decades. The San Francisco native, who has worked at FOX News since 2009, departed from the... > Tucker reportedly earned $6 million a year after _Tucker Carlson Tonight_ premiered in 2016, per Celebrity Net Worth. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/139 "2023-04-25T05:32:06Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Does anyone have objective info about how much Fox was paying TC? Its probably going to be hard to track down the side gigs, but his salary was [15-20 mil.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-made-as-much-as-20-million-a-year-at-fox-news/?sh=3752f88c6879) a year. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119/140 "2023-04-25T05:48:28Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > > [@RickJay](#): > > > > > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > > > > > And if he has to wait, say, six months to go back on the air, will anyone want him by then,. > > > > He is WILDLY popular among the right wing. > > As were Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck. IIRC both of them were at the top of the Fox line-up when they were fired, and neither managed to do anything really significant afterwards. > > I even heard one pundit suggest that Fox does this (firing their top talent, ratings wise), as a power move - just to prove that they can do so without losing their audience. This just shows that the only people who are truly irreplaceable at Fox are Murdochs. Everyone else serves at their pleasure. That’s kind of the case with most dictatorships - the only people truly safe are the ruling family. All others, even the highest ranking officials in the regime (one could say _especially_ the highest ranking officials), can be squished as easily as a cockroach. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/983119.md?page=8)