# Tucker Carlson’s logic fail

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 16, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224 "2020-08-16T00:36:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/21 "2020-08-17T14:48:42Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Tucker is a smarmy douchebag, but he often makes clever arguments supported by evidence and logic.

Indeed, he does. Usually though, after he has made perfect sense on some issue or another, he immediately follows it up with a whopper full of bullshit. But like a broken clock, sometimes he is right at least once a day.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/22 "2020-08-17T17:18:11Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> No just sayin’

I unnerstan. Iss downright tough to say, like ole prezzi-dint o’bama. Rimes with bama. Roll tide.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/23 "2020-08-17T20:57:15Z")

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People mispronounce names all the time. This is tempest in a teapot.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/24 "2020-08-17T21:00:13Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Tucker is a smarmy douchebag, but he often makes clever arguments supported by evidence and logic.

Eh… strike “often”, replace with “occasionally and accidentally”.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/25 "2020-08-17T22:49:06Z")

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This board is filled with tempests in teapots.

So, what’s the usual response when someone mispronounces a name? Is it to go on a rant about how you’re not allowed to criticize someone, or is it to apologize and accept the correction?

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/26 "2020-08-17T22:58:57Z")

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Shrug …I’m not the polite police. Do I think he should have apologized? Probably. But I’m not his parent. I don’t see a HUGE debate here.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/27 "2020-08-17T23:00:54Z")

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You’re the one who decided to participate with your near non-sequitur of Joe Biden also mispronouncing her name.

Can we at least agree that Carlson is a disingenuous asshole for getting all offended about being corrected and saying it somehow means she can’t be criticized?

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/28 "2020-08-17T23:09:31Z")

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Well, I just stated a fact that Biden mispronounced her name too, corrected it and moved on. Everyone Here are saying Carlson is a sexist bigot because of how he reacted. I don’t see the big deal. But then I’m not hyper sensitive about it.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/29 "2020-08-17T23:22:34Z")

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Well, you can lead a horse to water, as they say.

If you watch his show, please report back and see if he’s corrected himself. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/30 "2020-08-17T23:51:12Z")

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I said Biden corrected himself. I am not going to clutch my pearls because Carlson doesn’t,. I DON’T care. He is who he is, watch him or not. But this mispronouncing Sen. Harris name is not an issue. Wouldn’t it be what her record is? Etc…

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/31 "2020-08-17T23:52:06Z")

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You calling me a horse?.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/32 "2020-08-18T03:43:48Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> So, what’s the usual response when someone mispronounces a name? Is it to go on a rant about how you’re not allowed to criticize someone, or is it to apologize and accept the correction?

Right. It’s not that he mispronounced it. It’s not even so much that he wasn’t thrilled to be corrected–that’s human nature. It’s how he went on the offensive, absurdly claiming his mispronunciation had anything remotely to do with “holding public officials to account”. Like his repeated mispronunciation (even after being corrected) made him some kind of noble free speech crusader. Total bullshit, and I say that as someone who is probably more of a free speech crusader than almost anyone here.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/33 "2020-08-18T12:37:56Z")

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What struck me most was Carlson’s very first reaction–before he started ranting about “holding officials to account” and “you’re not allowed to criticize her” and all that nonsense. His immediate, gut response to being told he was pronouncing her name wrong was “So what?”

He is so contemptuous of Kamala Harris that even the basic human courtesy of pronouncing her name correctly is something that he doesn’t care about, and can’t imagine why anyone would.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/34 "2020-08-18T13:43:38Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> He is so contemptuous of Kamala Harris that even the basic human courtesy of pronouncing her name correctly is something that he doesn’t care about, and can’t imagine why anyone would.

I think every guest on his show should start referencing him using a long U sound (since using F instead of T will get bleeped). Then get all offended when corrected and ask why Tooocker is trying to shut down debate.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/35 "2020-08-18T18:14:47Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> I said Biden corrected himself.

Actually, you didn’t.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/36 "2020-08-18T19:08:35Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> but he often makes clever arguments supported by evidence and logic.

Admittedly, my sample size is small, but I can’t say I’ve seen it.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/37 "2020-08-19T02:50:37Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> What struck me most was Carlson’s very first reaction–before he started ranting about “holding officials to account” and “you’re not allowed to criticize her” and all that nonsense. His immediate, gut response to being told he was pronouncing her name wrong was “So what?”

That’s definitely the smarmy douchebag routine he’s got down to an art. But I would just shrug it off if he left it at that. Like “Who cares how we pronounce people’s names? It’s trivial, let’s talk about real issues.” I’m not saying I personally an argument I would make or that I support, mind you. But I think it’s an argument you _can_ make, that’s not totally out of bounds. It comes down to a matter of opinion, or taste.

Acting like correcting him on the pronunciation is equivalent to saying Harris should be immune from criticism, or that by mispronouncing her name he is “holding a public official to account”, though, is just not even arguable. Totally specious, absurd on its face.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-carlson-s-logic-fail/918224/38 "2020-08-19T02:59:00Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> No just sayin’

Well la-dee-fuckin-doo.

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