# Tucker, we love you, but... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2005, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741 "2005-04-17T07:23:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/1 "2005-04-17T07:23:46Z")
What the fuck man? Am I just a complete sucker for following your stories and feeling a modicum of sympathy? What got this going was your OP [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=312317). If you’re being treated for depression, you won’t notice physical symptoms from not taking the meds that morning. How do I know? Bipolar here. I have one med for the manic, and one for the depressive. You can’t tell you took anything day by day, and it takes a few days minimum of missing meds to show a lack of meds. But it won’t be in 2 days. Talk to the doc, and ratchet back the med need ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/2 "2005-04-17T07:29:24Z")
This couldn’t have been part of [the other thread?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=312324) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/3 "2005-04-17T07:40:57Z")
I’ll resist the temptation to start _another_ thread, and reply right here in this one. It’s something new I’m trying out. Anyway, don’t think that your experience is going to be substantially the same as that of other people — _especially_ when it comes to side effects. I took SSRIs (fluoxetine, specifically) for a while [to manage Raynauds](http://www.jrheum.com/subscribers/04/10/correspondence.html), and I found that there was quite a bit of myalgia and headache when I started taking them, which went away, and then _returned when I missed a few doses_, big time. Fuck, the guy’s understandably anxious enough already. Don’t be a dick based on assumptions you’re making from ignorance. Medications affect different people differently. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/4 "2005-04-17T07:55:12Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > You can’t tell you took anything day by day, and it takes a few days minimum of missing meds to show a lack of meds. As **Larry** notes, your experiences are hardly universal. Hell, I’ve been on well over a dozen anti-depressants and related meds, and haven’t felt even the slightest withdrawal symptom from any of them. A quick search will show you that **Tucker** ’s experiences aren’t terribly uncommon. Check out [this](http://www.mind.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres/59D68F19-F69C-4613-BD40-A0D8B38D1410/0/DavidHealyHaltingSSRIs.pdf) PDF by David Healy, MD, of the North Wales Dept of Psychological Medicine: > [@](#): > > …if the nervousness or other odd feelings that appear on reducing or > halting the SSRI (sometimes after just missing a single dose) clear up when > you are put back on the SSRI or the dose is put back up, then this also points > towards a withdrawal problem… ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/5 "2005-04-17T08:01:24Z")
I take fluoxetine as well. Since Larry mentioned it, I assume he doesn’t mind telling that many know it it by it’s brand name, Prozac. Going through some threads, I see it’s been done. Mods please kill this thread ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/6 "2005-04-17T08:02:57Z")
Pitting was because the drugs don’t take effect in a day or two. And he was going nuts for missing meds for a day\ ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/7 "2005-04-17T08:10:32Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Pitting was because the drugs don’t take effect in a day or two. > > And he was going nuts for missing meds for a day\ Except I haven’t missed a day’s worth of meds. I’d been cutting the doses trying to get it to last until I got the money to get a refill. ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/8 "2005-04-17T08:21:07Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Pitting was because the drugs don’t take effect in a day or two. > > And he was going nuts for missing meds for a day\ You’re pitting him because of _that_? When there’s already another thread, hardly out of its nappies, already in this forum? Sheesh! ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/9 "2005-04-17T08:29:12Z")
> [@Ice Wolf](#): > > You’re pitting him because of _that_? When there’s already another thread, hardly out of its nappies, already in this forum? Sheesh! You’re cute :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/10 "2005-04-17T08:33:30Z")
Ta muchly, **duffer**. Can’t exactly say _you_ are, though, mate. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/11 "2005-04-17T08:37:59Z")
You may not like me, but I \*am \* cute. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/12 "2005-04-17T08:41:31Z")
I’ll have t’ get t’ know you better, then. Far be it for me to exclude instances where my opinion could be changed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/13 "2005-04-17T08:42:04Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Except I haven’t missed a day’s worth of meds. I’d been cutting the doses trying to get it to last until I got the money to get a refill. You’re bitching about how you will miss out of your meds, I tried, nay, sacked up and mentioned my own affliction that you apparently share. suffer missing one day. Was I wrong and you were over-reacting? You won’t suffer anything for a day. Unless you want to spread the concern of people finding a cure ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/14 "2005-04-17T08:44:57Z")
> [@Ice Wolf](#): > > Ta muchly, **duffer**. Can’t exactly say _you_ are, though, mate. :rolleyes: OK. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/15 "2005-04-17T08:46:00Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > You’re bitching about how you will miss out of your meds, I tried, nay, sacked up and mentioned my own affliction that you apparently share. suffer missing one day. Was I wrong and you were over-reacting? > > You won’t suffer anything for a day. Unless you want to spread the concern of people finding a cure You’re such a worthless prick. I’m amazed that you scurry out into the light from under your rock to criticize others. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/16 "2005-04-17T08:49:30Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > You’re such a worthless prick. > > I’m amazed that you scurry out into the light from under your rock to criticize others. Wow, you told me I’m worthless? I thought you had that out of your system the last few times. Can you try to stay on topic? I realize your crotch needs some serious care, but I hate to concern syself with your sludge ---
**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/17 "2005-04-17T08:56:01Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Pitting was because the drugs don’t take effect in a day or two. > > And he was going nuts for missing meds for a day\ \*\*duffer \*\* go back and re-read neutron’s cite. It should clear up your confusion. (What in the world makes you think the time to onset of withdrawal symptoms must equal the time it takes for the drug to improve mood? Also different antidepressants have very different half-lives and withdrawal characteristics. AFAIK Effexor, for instance has a half-life of 3 to 7 hours and I’ve heard it can cause a nasty withdrawal syndrome.) You may be right and he may be imagining it but you definitely don’t know that. In fact you seem pretty godddamn clueless. IMHO it is you that should be pitted for this pitting. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/18 "2005-04-17T09:03:28Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > You’re such a worthless prick. > > I’m amazed that you scurry out into the light from under your rock to criticize others. By the way, I appreciate you’re post. I had something to contribute based on a prescription drug that I take, but forgot about you. I thought it may have been something I said, then realized I know what I’m talking about, but you hate me and jump on my username. Shut the fuck up when it comes to Dopers finding others on prescription drugs, I’d call you a worthless cunt…but… ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/19 "2005-04-17T09:08:29Z")
> [@uglybeech](#): > > \*\*duffer \*\* go back and re-read neutron’s cite. It should clear up your confusion. (What in the world makes you think the time to onset of withdrawal symptoms must equal the time it takes for the drug to improve mood? Also different antidepressants have very different half-lives and withdrawal characteristics. AFAIK Effexor, for instance has a half-life of 3 to 7 hours and I’ve heard it can cause a nasty withdrawal syndrome.) > > You may be right and he may be imagining it but you definitely don’t know that. In fact you seem pretty godddamn clueless. IMHO it is you that should be pitted for this pitting. Clueless? Show me where there is withdrawal after a day or two. That gives quite a few hours. I suspect **Tucker** is hitting either anxiety or panic attacks. If anti-depressants are the main drug, there is no way one day makes a person go back to ground-zero ---
**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741/20 "2005-04-17T09:17:33Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Clueless? Show me where there is withdrawal after a day or two. That gives quite a few hours. > > I suspect **Tucker** is hitting either anxiety or panic attacks. > > If anti-depressants are the main drug, there is no way one day makes a person go back to ground-zero A simple google search brought me to an [online article from Postgraduate Medicine Online on SSRI discontinuation syndrome (i.e. withdrawal).](http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/2003/08_03/ditto.htm) And I quote: > [@](#): > > Discontinuation symptoms usually begin within 1 to 3 days after abrupt cessation of SSRI use and can be relieved within 24 hours by restarting anti-depressant therapy. Untreated, however, these symptoms can last from 1 to 3 weeks Annoying to have to quote since Neutron already gave you a cite and quote which I pointed out to you in my last post. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucker-we-love-you-but/299741.md?page=2)